my second cycle advice?

[katl]

ive done a 500 mg test E for 12 weeks im looking to do my second cycle i just need your advices
1-10 test @ 500 mg
1-6 npp @ 300mg 6-10 npp @400 mg
4-10 oral winstrol im not sure about the dosage
hcg all over the cycle
12-16 and pct with clomid and nolva
thanks

 

[Roaddkingg]

ive done a 500 mg test E for 12 weeks im looking to do my second cycle i just need your advices
1-10 test @ 500 mg
1-6 npp @ 300mg 6-10 npp @400 mg
4-10 oral winstrol im not sure about the dosage
hcg all over the cycle
12-16 and pct with clomid and nolva
thanks

A 10 week of 500 test should give you good results. The NPP will help get things rolling pretty fast but you could run that for 8 weeks. Two weeks less than your test.
HCG throughout is a very good idea and I assume you will be doing that at 500 i.u's 2 x wkly?
Do you know about cabergoline? I would reccomend you use this anytime you use a nadrolone compound. We generally run caber at .5mgs 2 x wkly and up until PCT.
In my opinion the winstrol would be a waste. It is normally used as a cutting drug and with test and deca(npp) you wont be on a cutting cycle so I'd save it for another time.
The PCT you have planned will work just fine but a lot of us choose to use aromasin rather than nolva for PCT. A lot of guys just keep the nolva on hand in case of any gyno issues.
But be careful IF you experienced any gyno sympyoms from the test or prolactrone issues from the NPP you would not want to use the nolva since you have included a 19nor steroid(npp).
Thats why we generally use cabergoline as a safe guard while running a 19nor steroid.
If you choose to use cabergoline .5mgs 2 x wkly with your dose of NPP would be just fine.
Cabergloine also has some great sexual benifits.
If I have missed anything or you have more questions just let me know.
You could stretch your cycle out a bit to 12 weeks and then just stop your npp before you stop the test. Npp is a fast acting ester so stopping it a week or two to be on the safe side would be fine. Run the test right up to the end.Wait your two weeks and then PCT.
One more thing. I just looked it over again and I didnt see where you were going to take you'r ai. Do you plan to use arimadex during cycle?
I assume you are. If so .5mgs every other day should be fine for these doses.
We may have missed a few things so write it all down on paper, go over you'r items and make sure you have plenty of everything before you start. Always plan for the unexpected because you cant just order things over night if something comes up.
We are here for you, be safe, train hard, eat a ton and grow my friend.

 

[katl]

A 10 week of 500 test should give you good results. The NPP will help get things rolling pretty fast but you could run that for 8 weeks. Two weeks less than your test.
HCG throughout is a very good idea and I assume you will be doing that at 500 i.u's 2 x wkly?
Do you know about cabergoline? I would reccomend you use this anytime you use a nadrolone compound. We generally run caber at .5mgs 2 x wkly and up until PCT.
In my opinion the winstrol would be a waste. It is normally used as a cutting drug and with test and deca(npp) you wont be on a cutting cycle so I'd save it for another time.
The PCT you have planned will work just fine but a lot of us choose to use aromasin rather than nolva for PCT. A lot of guys just keep the nolva on hand in case of any gyno issues.
But be careful IF you experienced any gyno sympyoms from the test or prolactrone issues from the NPP you would not want to use the nolva since you have included a 19nor steroid(npp).
Thats why we generally use cabergoline as a safe guard while running a 19nor steroid.
If you choose to use cabergoline .5mgs 2 x wkly with your dose of NPP would be just fine.
Cabergloine also has some great sexual benifits.
If I have missed anything or you have more questions just let me know.
You could stretch your cycle out a bit to 12 weeks and then just stop your npp before you stop the test. Npp is a fast acting ester so stopping it a week or two to be on the safe side would be fine. Run the test right up to the end.Wait your two weeks and then PCT.
One more thing. I just looked it over again and I didnt see where you were going to take you'r ai. Do you plan to use arimadex during cycle?
I assume you are. If so .5mgs every other day should be fine for these doses.
We may have missed a few things so write it all down on paper, go over you'r items and make sure you have plenty of everything before you start. Always plan for the unexpected because you cant just order things over night if something comes up.
We are here for you, be safe, train hard, eat a ton and grow my friend.

thanks alot for your post that was really helpful
yea im gonna do the hcg 500x2
but about winstrol ive heard it will help with solidifing the gains and keeping them is that right?
yea im gonna take the arimidex troughout the cycle and nolve eod in case of gyno
also what sort of gains should i expect from this cycle??
thanks

 

[Dannie]

Winstrol is pretty amazing IMO.

It has its place...

-It lowers SBHG when taken oraly. Freeing up more testosterone inside your body. (Synergistic when used with test even at low dosages orally.)

-When ran with tren or deca it can decrease sides from both since it blocks the progesterone receptor.

-Decrease water weight and hardens you up.

-increases nitrogen retention

-Derived from DHT and has some anti estrogenic properties

-doesnt aromatize

-lipolytic (fat-burning) effects

Source: What is the purpose of Winstrol?

 

[katl]

A 10 week of 500 test should give you good results. The NPP will help get things rolling pretty fast but you could run that for 8 weeks. Two weeks less than your test.
HCG throughout is a very good idea and I assume you will be doing that at 500 i.u's 2 x wkly?
Do you know about cabergoline? I would reccomend you use this anytime you use a nadrolone compound. We generally run caber at .5mgs 2 x wkly and up until PCT.
In my opinion the winstrol would be a waste. It is normally used as a cutting drug and with test and deca(npp) you wont be on a cutting cycle so I'd save it for another time.
The PCT you have planned will work just fine but a lot of us choose to use aromasin rather than nolva for PCT. A lot of guys just keep the nolva on hand in case of any gyno issues.
But be careful IF you experienced any gyno sympyoms from the test or prolactrone issues from the NPP you would not want to use the nolva since you have included a 19nor steroid(npp).
Thats why we generally use cabergoline as a safe guard while running a 19nor steroid.
If you choose to use cabergoline .5mgs 2 x wkly with your dose of NPP would be just fine.
Cabergloine also has some great sexual benifits.
If I have missed anything or you have more questions just let me know.
You could stretch your cycle out a bit to 12 weeks and then just stop your npp before you stop the test. Npp is a fast acting ester so stopping it a week or two to be on the safe side would be fine. Run the test right up to the end.Wait your two weeks and then PCT.
One more thing. I just looked it over again and I didnt see where you were going to take you'r ai. Do you plan to use arimadex during cycle?
I assume you are. If so .5mgs every other day should be fine for these doses.
We may have missed a few things so write it all down on paper, go over you'r items and make sure you have plenty of everything before you start. Always plan for the unexpected because you cant just order things over night if something comes up.
We are here for you, be safe, train hard, eat a ton and grow my friend.

thanks alot for your post that was really helpful
yea im gonna do the hcg 500x2
but about winstrol ive heard it will help with solidifing the gains and keeping them is that right?
yea im gonna take the arimidex troughout the cycle and nolve eod in case of gyno
also what sort of gains should i expect from this cycle??
thanks

 

[Standard Donkey]

soldifying and keeping gains? lol no..

winstrol is basically useless if you aren't going to do a competition. The significance of lowering shbg is incredibly overrated IIRC

the gains will depend on how much you eat and how hard you train


id use dbol instead of winstrol if i was you and use aromasin instead of adex.

my .02

 

[jay_steel]

^^ +1

 

[Goodskie]

I ran winny twice and noticed nothing. It was def gtg

 

[iSteroids]

Source: What is the purpose of Winstrol?

here is another good winstrol profile:

Winstrol-Stanozolol - iSteroids.com

 

[Roaddkingg]

Since you are including NPP which is a 19nor steroid I would strongly suggest you use cabergoline and not nolvadex.
Use arimadex or if you prefer aromasin but remember IF you use aromasin you have to dose it every day as opposed to if you run arimadex every other day will suffice since they have differant half lives.
I'd drop the winstrol and as anothher poster sdaid I'd opt for d-bol.
I look at winstrol as a finsihing drug but as I see there are differant opinions on this.