My Test Cycle Journal

[brandon123]

I'm going to pin my quad tomorrow which is a virgin muscle. I've been doing a lot of reading and everyone says a virgin muscle always causes pain. It's starting to worry me since my first injection about eight years ago had me hobbling for a week but that was Sust which is known for pain. Am I worrying about nothing? I'll be injecting 1ml of Norma Test E. Hoping this goes well bc it's getting really hard to pin my glutes now.

hahaha. of course its going to be sore. But might be a little sore to me, may be a day off of work in bed to you. Just depends on your tolerance. When i inject a virgin mucsle it feels like someone punched the crap out of that leg. Just gotta walk it off

 

[BigBoiH]

Thank you to Anabolic Temple for supplying the Tbol. It arrived in 7 days.

Enjoy! Glad you got it in time.

 

[The Prototype]

hahaha. of course its going to be sore. But might be a little sore to me, may be a day off of work in bed to you. Just depends on your tolerance. When i inject a virgin mucsle it feels like someone punched the crap out of that leg. Just gotta walk it off

You are a very knowledgeable person. Good to have you on the forum. I've seen you around quite a bit and you always give very good advice. As far as my quad shot, all went well except while changing the needle tip, I dropped the barrel. I wiped it off with an alcohol swab and went on as usual. Quad was so much easier to inject but I kinda have a charlie horse now. I've been massaging it but it's nothing anyone can't handle. I guess we'll see if it gets better or worse in the next day or so. Also, a half inch doesn't sound like much but you'd be surprised when you're pushing that pin in, how much of a difference a half inch makes. The one inch pin was a lot better than the one and a half inch and it even looks a lot smaller although only being a half inch. I generally never feel the oil going in but this time I could actually feel it. Probably b/c of a virgin pale white muscle . Got a question on aspirating. How far do you need to pull out? Everytime I aspirate, it doesn't do anything. I guess that might be a good thing. Also, there's always a little oil left in the tip of the barrel. Is that typical? It's not a whole lot but enough to make me think I'm wasting some but I've pushed the plunger in the whole way and it won't come out unless I manually pull it out. Anyone else experience this?

As far as the gyno issue, nipples feel a little less sensitive and aren't itchy anymore. I think the Nolva took care of the gyno. I'm going to take one more 20 mg pill today then discontinue and continue on with the Arimidex at 0.5 mg eod unless symptoms creep back. Overall, almost two weeks into it, things are going good. Other than the minor gyno issue, I haven't experienced any other sides that I've noticed. Libido is up some. I'm going to weigh myself today and see where I'm at. As of Saturday (11/6/10), I was up 6 lbs. Strength was way up on Saturday while doing bis and tris. I'm expecting good things today in the gym. Today is shoulder day but I'm going to try to take it easy and not push too hard b/c of the shoulder issues I've been experiencing. That's all for now.

 

[underscore]

The pain in your quad will get worse over the next day or two. Then it will rapidly get better. usually takes like 2-3 days to be back to normal for me. When you dropped the barrel it didn't have the pin exposed on it right? When you aspirate you need to pull it back far enough so that you see air bubbles in the barrel. If you don't see this, then you are not pulling back far enough. The left over oil is the pin is normal. I just consider it "wasted". But others might try to save it. Glad to hear the nips are clearing up.

 

[The Prototype]

The pain in your quad will get worse over the next day or two. Then it will rapidly get better. usually takes like 2-3 days to be back to normal for me. When you dropped the barrel it didn't have the pin exposed on it right? When you aspirate you need to pull it back far enough so that you see air bubbles in the barrel. If you don't see this, then you are not pulling back far enough. The left over oil is the pin is normal. I just consider it "wasted". But others might try to save it. Glad to hear the nips are clearing up.

No, the pin wasn't on the barrel when I dropped it. I was in the process of changing the pin when I dropped it. But it didn't have any dirt or anything on it and I just wiped it with an alcohol swab so hopefully that was enough to keep it sterile.

Weighed myself today and I'm still at 176 lbs. which is an increase of 6 lbs. I was growing so fast, I thought I'd see some increase in weight over the past two days so I was kinda disappointed. Strength is up "some" but not great. I'm sure it'll be a lot more noticeable once the Test kicks in within the next week or two.

 

[brandon123]

You are a very knowledgeable person. Good to have you on the forum. I've seen you around quite a bit and you always give very good advice. As far as my quad shot, all went well except while changing the needle tip, I dropped the barrel. I wiped it off with an alcohol swab and went on as usual. Quad was so much easier to inject but I kinda have a charlie horse now. I've been massaging it but it's nothing anyone can't handle. I guess we'll see if it gets better or worse in the next day or so. Also, a half inch doesn't sound like much but you'd be surprised when you're pushing that pin in, how much of a difference a half inch makes. The one inch pin was a lot better than the one and a half inch and it even looks a lot smaller although only being a half inch. I generally never feel the oil going in but this time I could actually feel it. Probably b/c of a virgin pale white muscle . Got a question on aspirating. How far do you need to pull out? Everytime I aspirate, it doesn't do anything. I guess that might be a good thing. Also, there's always a little oil left in the tip of the barrel. Is that typical? It's not a whole lot but enough to make me think I'm wasting some but I've pushed the plunger in the whole way and it won't come out unless I manually pull it out. Anyone else experience this?

As far as the gyno issue, nipples feel a little less sensitive and aren't itchy anymore. I think the Nolva took care of the gyno. I'm going to take one more 20 mg pill today then discontinue and continue on with the Arimidex at 0.5 mg eod unless symptoms creep back. Overall, almost two weeks into it, things are going good. Other than the minor gyno issue, I haven't experienced any other sides that I've noticed. Libido is up some. I'm going to weigh myself today and see where I'm at. As of Saturday (11/6/10), I was up 6 lbs. Strength was way up on Saturday while doing bis and tris. I'm expecting good things today in the gym. Today is shoulder day but I'm going to try to take it easy and not push too hard b/c of the shoulder issues I've been experiencing. That's all for now.

THank you very much for the compliment. Glad to hear your gyno is starting to fade away. I know it can be a spooky thing. If you are pushing the plunger all the way down, then the only oil that should be left is whatevers inside the needle. When your aspirating and can't pull back on the plunger, don't worry, your in a muscle. There are times when i can't pull back on it and see those little bubbles. But always make sure to look for blood. injecting into a vein is not fun. I've passed through one before and got a little in it, broke out into a pouring sweat in a matter of seconds. got a little dizzy and hot as hell.

 

[suprfast]

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[The Prototype]

THank you very much for the compliment. Glad to hear your gyno is starting to fade away. I know it can be a spooky thing. If you are pushing the plunger all the way down, then the only oil that should be left is whatevers inside the needle. When your aspirating and can't pull back on the plunger, don't worry, your in a muscle. There are times when i can't pull back on it and see those little bubbles. But always make sure to look for blood. injecting into a vein is not fun. I've passed through one before and got a little in it, broke out into a pouring sweat in a matter of seconds. got a little dizzy and hot as hell.

The "wasted" oil is at the tip of the barrel where the pin connects to the barrel. It's not much and probably nothing to worry about. I'll take a pic next time and post it so you can see what I'm talking about.

 

[The Prototype]

Update: This may sound unusual and maybe not possible but I'm pretty certain the Test has kicked in. It's only been 13 days since my first shot but workouts are getting aggressive and my hormones feel like they're changing. My testicles have shrank a little and without getting too graphic, there was very little "product" after sexual relations with my girlfriend today. Is this even possible for the Test to be kicking in, in such a short period of time?

My quad shot yesterday has held up very well with little pain. I thought for sure I would be sore and limping today but its just a little sensitive but nothing severe. I did use a heat pad 2-3 times yesterday for 10-15 minutes at a time, massaged the crap out of the area, stretched and rode my bike to keep area moving. It seemed to work so far.

For some reason my kidney area (left side) is kinda bothering me. It may be nothing but do you guys think it would be a good idea to get some kind of liver/kidney support? And if so, what do you guys recommend?

My workout in the gym today was awesome. It's been the best workout since my first shot almost two weeks ago. Getting really good pumps and strength is going up. I took the advice someone gave me and purchased some Taurine for what I thought was pain from tremendous pumps in my right shoulder. I didn't have any pain in the shoulder today during my back and bi workout. I'm not sure if that's b/c of the Taurine. I guess we will see how it goes when I do chest tomorrow. That's usually when it's the worst. I'll update you guys on that.

 

[paolo584]

The "wasted" oil is at the tip of the barrel where the pin connects to the barrel. It's not much and probably nothing to worry about. I'll take a pic next time and post it so you can see what I'm talking about.

i know what your talking about. Dont even worry about that.

 

[underscore]

I would pickup some Liv 52 on amazon. The lack of product and shrinkage sounds about right on time. At least you know your test is good.

 

[The Prototype]

Do you guys think I should discontinue the tbol since the Test is believed to be kicking in? I got some milk thistle for the liver. Started taking it today. I still have a little less than two weeks left on the tbol but liver and kidney issues scare the crap out of me.

 

[ROID]

Do you guys think I should discontinue the tbol since the Test is believed to be kicking in? I got some milk thistle for the liver. Started taking it today. I still have a little less than two weeks left on the tbol but liver and kidney issues scare the crap out of me.

finish it. Nothing to be worried about.

You aren't going to have liver issues or kidney problems at the dose you taking in such a short time.

Unless you want to save it for another cycle later on.

 

[The Prototype]

Update: Pin #5 done today. While cracking the amp, I friggin smashed the entire amp in my hand so now I have a wasted amp. Good thing is I ordered an extra one and will have four extra if I decide to only run 10 weeks rather than 12. The pain from Pin #4 (first quad pin - virgin muscle) is all gone and overall it wasn't bad at all. I noticed after my pin today that I was dangerously close to a vein or may have gone thru one. But I aspirated and everything was fine. I'm writing this now. Otherwise, I'd probably be on the ground flopping like a fish.

I decided to drop the Tbol as of yesterday and maybe use for a future cycle since the Test appears to be kicked in. Plus, the Tbol just made me feel funny. I've been seeing pretty good gains thus far. My gf is always commenting about me getting bigger and eating like a maniac. As of yesterday, I was up 6 lbs in two weeks. I put on the 6 lbs in the first week but haven't seen an increase in weight in the last 4-7 days.

My workouts in the gym have been very good. Getting stronger and more aggressive in the gym. I typically bench 245 x 2 (I know, I'm weak). I got 245 x 6 yesterday which is a personal best. All exercises seem to be up but I try not to work out near my max due to tendon/joint issues. My shoulder was bothering me again yesterday. I noticed it only bothers me while doing incline dumbbell presses. I even tried just bringing the weight down about 50-60% of the way down but it still hurts my shoulder. And I noticed it ONLY hurts while doing inclines. Doesn't bother me a bit on flat bench, which I find odd. So I'm going to try doing the Hammer machine for inclines. If that doesn't work, I might have to do away with inclines altogether rather than risking getting injured. That's all...thanks for reading

 

[rockhardly]

I developed the same kinda shoulder pain from doing very heavy inclines w/o a spotter. I think I strained something laying back and trying to get the DB's up into position. It hurt for along time on any flat, incline and vertical presses. I found that the pain was greatly reduced by squeezing my scapulae together before mounting the weight and focused on keeping tight delts even after lockout. Also, keeping my elbows from flaring out helped some too.

 

[The Prototype]

Update: Strength is going thru the roof. Did tris today and was doing the whole stack at 10 reps. Everything feels really light. I just don't think this is sustainable even with a really good pct and diet after cycle. Weight seems to be at a stand still at 177 lbs, 7 lbs up since I started. I've noticed I've been a lot hungrier and I'm trying to down as many calories as possible right now but I'm eating 5-6 times a day with two shakes so I'm taking in close to 8 meals a day. I eat basically every 2-3 hours a day.

I'm pretty certain I went thru a vein last shot but the pain was easily tolerable and I'm sure the pain will get better each and every shot, especially since my quads are virgin muscles. But I do enjoy the quad shot a lot better than glutes just b/c it's hard to turn where conversely I see everything with the quad and it makes for an easier pin.

I think I've been showing signs of gyno. Nipples are really sensitive and always hard. They're not itchy or red. I stopped the nolva last week but started again three days ago. Taking 40 mg a day right now with 1 mg armex. Once signs of gyno go away, I'll stop nolva and go with .5 mg ed of armex. Other than the minimal gyno signs I haven't noticed any other side effects. I'm in Week 3 of my cycle and I could tell the Test has been working for at least a week now. Pretty surprising it kicked in so quickly. Maybe it's b/c I'm using pharm grade? Not really sure but it's def working. I've been off the tbol for 3-4 days now and haven't noticed any difference. My testes are somewhat smaller but not considerably. I hear they get down to the size of raisins in some cases. Overall, pretty happy with the gear I got and results in just 2-3 weeks. I think it'll only get better from here. Thx for reading

 

[underscore]

Sounds like its going well. You don't want to be on nolva too long during your cycle has it can hinder your gains.

 

[Hell]

Hell yea man!!

 

[The Prototype]

Update: Okay...I need to be more careful while cracking amps. I friggin smashed another one while cracking it open so now I'm left with 11.5 weeks of Test E or will have a few extra if I do 10 weeks. Not sure at this point. I originally figured I would do 12 weeks but gains were really good starting off so I thought I'd shorten it to 10 weeks but now gains have kinda leveled off as far as weight so I might go back to 12 or 11.5. I also have four Sust amps that expired in 2006 but I hear I can use them as they probably didn't go bad as they were stored in room temp this entire time. I'd rather not use them though b/c it hurts like a bitch. Had some setbacks the past few days. Been pretty sick and just chilled around the house and took it easy. Diet probably wasn't where it should be. Hoping this week will be better.

 

[Life]

Buy an amp breaker man. $10 shipped. Totally worth it.

 

[The Prototype]

Buy an amp breaker man. $10 shipped. Totally worth it.

You know where I can find one? I googled it but all I get are electrical stuff.

 

[rockhardly]

Can't you just file around the neck of the amp?

 

[underscore]

You can get an opener from gpz services. Google it.

 

[The Prototype]

You can get an opener from gpz services. Google it.

Got it ordered and on the way. Thanks a lot Underscore. You've been a huge help this cycle. I'd rep you but I think I've already given you too many and I need to spread it out, so they say.

 

[underscore]

Got it ordered and on the way. Thanks a lot Underscore. You've been a huge help this cycle. I'd rep you but I think I've already given you too many and I need to spread it out, so they say.

No problem bro. Glad its going smoothly.

 

[The Prototype]

Finished Pin #7 today. I don't know why but I have to prick several times when doing my left quad. I think I tense up and tighten the muscles so it's harder to push in. I had to pull out three times and reinsert this morning. Also, just a suggestion, but when you are getting all the air bubbles out, let a small drop of oil fall down the pin. This helps lubricate the pin and helps it insert so much easier. I forgot to do that today, and didn't realize till afterwards but I did notice it was a lot harder to insert the pin.

I've just finished up Week 3 and the test seems to be in full effect. I'm up 9 lbs in 3 weeks. But I was in my work clothes with shoes and on a different scale so I'm not 100% sure if I'll weigh the same on the gym scale where I typically weigh myself. But overall, I look bigger (clothes are tighter), I'm a lot stronger and overall sense of well-being is very good. No side effects (knock on wood) noticed as of yet. I think I am a little more aggressive, at least mentally, but haven't acted on anything yet. My testes have shrunken more as well. They're probably at about 35% of their regular size. I decided to go without HCG this time. I may use it next time.

Strength is going thru the roof. I did 245 x 8 the other day and may have gotten more if I had a spot. My PB before that was 245 x 2. Sad to say but I don't do squats or deadlifts? Why? Because about 8 years ago, I herniated a disk in my back while doing squats and my back is still messed up from that incident. So basically, any movement I do, my lower back has to be stable or I'll be in a lot of pain for a few days. I do hack squats, leg extensions, etc. for legs which is enough for me. But good mornings, deadlifts and squats are out of the question. I can't even do bent over rows or rows on the machine. But strength is crazy right now. I just can't see how this can be sustained post cycle with just normal test running thru my body. Do you guys see a big decrease in strength even after a good PCT or do you keep most of your strength?

Just ordered 30 more amps of Norma Test E and a bunch of ancillaries. I also received my amp opener today. I've been having to use 1 mg of arimidex ED b/c of gyno issues. I'll run out before cycle ends if this continues so I figured I'd buy more arimidex and pick up a second cycle while I'm at it. I really like this Norma Test and now that I purchased an amp opener (thanks Underscore), I shouldn't be smashing anymore amps in my hand. I've already wasted 2 mls this cycle! Next cycle will probably be Test E again at 500 mg a week but I may add some dbol or winny or anavar. Not 100% sure yet but that's still a long ways away. I'm shying away from the winny b/c I hear it's the worst on male pattern baldness. Can anyone confirm this? I used it before and never had any issues except a little bit of sore joints. Lastly, I have about 50, 10 mg tbol tabs left. I think I may throw this back in the mix after my last shot until PCT to tighten up some. You guys think that's okay or should I do it while I'm still pinning Test, or should I save for another cycle? I figured the two weeks from last pin to PCT would be a good time b/c I got right at about a 2 weeks supply and since the test will still be in my system. Thanks for reading. Sorry for rambling so much!

 

[SloppyJ]

Hey man wanted to follow along. I have the same question about the dbol usage before pct. Keep us updated. I'm excited to get mine started.

 

[The Prototype]

Update: I guess it's about time for an update. Just did my eighth pin yesterday and getting ready to wrap up Week 4. Quad pins are going really easy now with no soreness at all. Currently up 7-9 lbs depending on the scale and time of day I weigh myself but I can definitely tell I've gotten bigger. Not really retaining any water, probably b/c I'm taking 1 mg of adex a day. I felt like I was retaining some water a few weeks ago while on tbol. Strength is way up as well.

So far some sides I've noticed is my face broke out a couple of times with acne in small patches. Skin feels really oily all day and I've been showering 3x a day. Very little back acne so far. Maybe I'm being nervous but hair seems a little thinner but it may be just in my head. Blood pressure went way up but I started taking CO-Q10 and Hawthorne. I'll get it checked again soon. Feel a little more aggressive and irritable.

Right shoulder is still giving me problems but only on inclines so I skipped them this week. Since I'll have four days off the gym, I figured it would be a good time to take it easy and let it heal. I can do flat bench, hammer machine, and flys with no issues. I think I injured it by going too low on incline dumbbell presses and probably injured something. It's not serious so I've been able to work around it. That's all for now.

 

[jstnelson2006]

Did you take any before pictures? I'd like to see some good before/after pics on just a test cycle. I've been following your log. Keep up the good work : )

 

[SloppyJ]

Yes. I would like some pics too. no homo.

But I'm more intrested in how much i'm going to blow up on the dbol. I guess you took a bunch of AI though.