Nearly 50% of all Men...

[John H.]

Convert?

I think John's trying to convert us.

Hi Max,

"Convert"? No, not at all. A person IS who they ARE as born. Actually if people would just know and understand about all things honestly that would benefit all people in the end. Everyone is - or should be - truly able to be who they are naturally so without hatred, bigotry, etc. Human Beings do tend to spend most of their life trying to find something or someone to hate for whatever reason. It is truly amazine how much time is spent of a person's life being DEstructive and not CONstructive. Look at the history of this world.

Take Care, John H.

 

[John H.]

Do I even work out?

do you even work out?

Hi Bullet,

If you are asking me, the answer is "yes, absolutely"! I KNOW the benefits bigtime!

Take Care, John H.

 

[John H.]

Those were my thoughts exactly.

I like Johnny but I just don't see the reason why he posted this one.

Johnny - Are there Bi-sexual men on this board you're trying to educate? Or, are there men on this board who think it's "wrong" to have sexual relations with other men?

Personally, I don't understand the "passion" in male on male relations. But......I guess a Mans gotta do, what a man's gotta do and it doesn't matter who it's with.......

sorry, I had to say the last part....

Hi Babsie,

The information is offered for those who would truly and accurately desire to understand this portion of the subject of Sexuality - and even Sexuality period.

There is "passion" in many relationships regardless of Gender. Hopefully honestly and sincerely too.

Take Care, John H.

 

[Minotaur]

Hey this makes me wonder about something. Do Homosexuals consider it "cheating" or being untrue to their unnatural proclivities if they have conventional or anal sex with a woman and visualize a man? Was curious since it might be a way for them to cope and be accepted better.

Why are you wondering about something homosexual? Want to tell the group something? It's pretty common knowledge that those who protest the loudest against something usually have something to hide. Why you spend so much time in homosexual threads is suspect.

The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

Anyhoo... we are just like anyone else; cheating is cheating.

 

[John H.]

lol @ bulletproof1

Hi JJJ,

I like your Halloween post.

Take Care, John H.

 

[John H.]

Hi Jeanie,

DAMN nice!!! Honest!!!!! GOOD work!!!!

Take Care, John H.

 

[John H.]

Posting "crap"?

John have you ever got laid posting crap like this?

Hi Bone,

Posting "crap"? No. Have I.... no, that is most definitely not my style.

Take Care, John H.

 

[John H.]

That's a poor statement.

1. Don't use a percentage to represent both 1/2s
2. 'neary' is a subjective adjective that modifies the 'meat' of your statement, now there are no facts in the statement.
3. Are you sure they weren't pollin' prisons in europe?

BTW, you sure do read alot of literature on homosexuality

Hi Luke,

I said "nearly" because I could not remember at the time the exact percentage given based on the facts presented in the book. To know what is said in the book you need to read it and see for yourself.

As for "...pollin' prisons in europe..." see the book and look at the source material. The Men involved were completely free, not in prison.

I found it intersting that even some of those that were "put in charge" to "find" those "guilty" were themselves "guilty" after investigating work they did and what they "found out" themselves.

Please read the book and then let me know what you think - honestly. Honest reflection, answers, etc. is what I would like to hear from everyone. Please read the book and let me know your thoughts after having done so. I am interested in what you have to say about what the book has to say.

Take Care, John H.

 

[John H.]

Read the book and then tell me what your thoughts are

John H. is just playing games with the statistics like a lot of people do to make himself feel less guilty about shameful things.

The statement "Nearly 50% of all Men engaged in Sex with each other...." is misleading. If you know this history of Florence (Firenza) it helps to understand what really happened. There happened to be a lot of orgies when the Roman Centurions came into town and they were known to drink a lot and were notoriously known to be far sighted while in a drunken stupor. In some cases they just plugged into whatever seemed to fit. But in most other cases they "had sex with men" in the context of a 3-some or 4-some or "n-some" there the "some" was a local wench (female) who was paid or pressured into performing for the men. In that sense it was not homosexual encounters as John insinuates (cleverly) or fantasizes about but hetero-encounters with multiple partners. Of course some of the historians of the time were also known homosexuals and it is also likely that they recorded their own accounts as their own personal fantasies led them to visualize things that simply never occurred. There is also the fact that many of the Italian women have a history of having dark facial hair and often appeared as men and no doubt some were just as ugly; all adding to the queer statistics.

Sorry John.

Hey this makes me wonder about something. Do Homosexuals consider it "cheating" or being untrue to their unnatural proclivities if they have conventional or anal sex with a woman and visualize a man? Was curious since it might be a way for them to cope and be accepted better.

OD

P.S. The men of Florence also were known to have an interesting perspective on sexual domination. The term "giving head" was not what John would have expected either and many were thus grossly incompetent in administering circumcision rituals with rather unfortunate results. To wit:

Hi Ocean,

Read the book and then tell me your thoughts after having done so.

Statistics? They are utilized to show amounts and to represent something stated. They are based on the information that has been gathered.

Guilt? Shame? I have done nothing to be guility of shameful of with regard to Sex ever. Read the book!

Read the book. By your own admission you have not done so yet and apparently are even afraid to have someone else see you even look at the book. A truly educated Man will consider all information from all sources all the time objectively. What you have described (Roman Centurions) is not what is talked about in the book. While the subject of the book is Homosexuality of Men it also shows BiSexuality among Men. Heterosexuality is also discussed.

Some of the sources used in the book are from court records based on testimory. See the sources utilized in the book for yourself. Check them out for yourself. That is why they are listed.

Read the book. You will not be "somehow injured or harmed" for having done so. Then, let me know what your thoughts are after having done so.

Take Care, John H.

 

[John H.]

Is that good to be gay John H.?

Hi Vieope,

It is good to BE who you ARE as born. That is what is intended. And that is the only way to LIVE life. ( As a form of prevention: I am NOT speaking about rapists, murders, etc. . I am speaking of Human Beings and their Sexuality Heterosexual, BiSexual and Homosexual).

Take Care, John H.

 

[John H.]

"Preventing masturbation"

I would guess not if he needs to come to a hetro site to get confirmation of his ability to "fit" in ... even though he doesn't.

Hi Bone,

Did you see what I wrote with regard on how to "prevent masturbation" on that "other Board"? I was being very honest - and complete. I did not lie - not one syllable.

Take Care, John H.

 

[John H.]

That's a poor statement.

1. Don't use a percentage to represent both 1/2s
2. 'neary' is a subjective adjective that modifies the 'meat' of your statement, now there are no facts in the statement.
3. Are you sure they weren't pollin' prisons in europe?

BTW, you sure do read alot of literature on homosexuality

Hi Luke,

I read a lot on a lot of subjects actually.

Take Care, John H.

 

[John H.]

I would like to be a gay woman. Sounds like fun.

Hi JJJ,

I was very surprised to find out just how many Hetereosexual Men LOVE Lesbians! In fact I can honestly say I was truly floored to find that out.

Take Care, John H.

 

[OceanDude]

Why are you wondering about something homosexual? Want to tell the group something? It's pretty common knowledge that those who protest the loudest against something usually have something to hide. Why you spend so much time in homosexual threads is suspect.

The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

Anyhoo... we are just like anyone else; cheating is cheating.

No Mino I do not want to tell you something.

Protesting? No, I am just half heartedly discussing it. In general I don't believe in protesting - that is an admission of powerlessness. What I do believe in is action and on core philosophical issues that action is swift, expedient, sudden an decisively directed.

I do not spend much time in homosexual threads - Of the 600 or so threads/postings I have ever participated in I think this is the 2nd homosexual thread I have ever posted on. Why do you spend so much time being defensive?

Lady? Now I know you are a sick puppy.

Hugs,
OD

 

[SPIKE1257]

Hi Bone,

A Freudian slip ? Perhaps

 

[Minotaur]

No Mino I do not want to tell you something.

Oh drat.

Lady? Now I know you are a sick puppy.

The line is from Shakespeare and is used when someone protests or argues too much against something.

Hugs,
OD

Ooh, now you're really getting me excited.

 

[MaxMirkin]

This is taking on a familiar pattern:

1) John starts a gay-ass thread.
2) We all make it clear to him how annoyed we are by this.
3) OD makes it even more clear via his novella-sized posts.
4) Two weeks later John comes back to annoy us further with a reply to each and every comment anybody ever made. And since he apparently finds it necessary to match each comment's length, word for word with his own, his reply to OD soon turns into a war of books.
5) OD hides some nasty line about homos in one of his gigantamus posts.
6) Another two weeks go by.
7) Minotaur (official defender of the buttholy-enhanced) manages to dig up the offensive remark, and begins round 2 with OD.
8) Rinse and repeat.

So can we like skip to the chase and just ban John's troublemaking ass already?...Please?

 

[Du]

Quote:
Originally Posted by OceanDude
Hugs,
OD

Ooh, now you're really getting me excited.

Haha.

 

[min0 lee]

Hi Bullet,

If you are asking me, the answer is "yes, absolutely"! I KNOW the benefits bigtime!

Take Care, John H.

Yep, he gets to see naked men bathe at the gym's shower room.

 

[Lurker]

I liked what you had to say Max and here is my last two cents.

First of all your sexuality is your own, if your okay with it you certainly don't need to shove it down anyone else's throat. Who you fuck doesn't define who you are, and if you feel like it does than you need to take a hard look at the other areas in your life.

 

[Luke9583]

Does a Hetereosexual person have to "rationalize" their Heterosexuality?
Take Care, John H.

No, but that's for a completely different reason. There's no need to rationalize when you are considered to be in the 'norm'

What scares me is you post so much material on homosexuality alone, that it's obvious that you aren't comfortable with it.

Hi Luke,

I read a lot on a lot of subjects actually.

Take Care, John H.

You mostly post about this one lol

What else interests you, out of curiousity?

 

[camarosuper6]

Even the homosexual threads are interesting.

Only on IM.

 

[BoneCrusher]

If no one posted in these threads then these gay ass hetro trolling guys would go away. Gay guys who come here to converse with fit hetro types, the kind that would normally not even consider talking with them, would get bored and leave. How long could John H post in a thread if he was only talking to himself?

I propose a new solution ... we only post in threads with gay people like John H IF they are here as members of the fitness community and join in on other threads as normal people do. I have no problems with him being gay. I have not one time ever bagged on Minotaur. He is here as a member of the fitness community and deserves to be treated the same as anyone else. Guys like John H are just here trolling.

Fags trolling for coq should get get ignored. John you are the first to earn the ignore feature from me. What ever you post in your response to me will be wasted so save your energy.

I believe it would be even worse if we came into these threads and ignored the topic as well as the person who hosted the thread and just whored it up. Talk fitness, sports, politics, the weather or whatever; but, if we ignored what ever people like John H posted he would feel our point and move on eventually.

Just MHO.

 

[perfectbody]

John.H is gay.
It was confirmed.
I like Nirvana.
He sang well.
He was gay.
Gays are normal.
Sodomy is nasty.
Ass smells sux.

 

[Minotaur]

I have not one time ever bagged on Minotaur. He is here as a member of the fitness community and deserves to be treated the same as anyone else.

Thank you.

Yes, I really do lift! It's how I am able to maintain my strength and protect trannies, queers, twinks and other glbt people from unscrupulous gay bashers.

Now you know my secret identity as...

SUPERFAG

Defender of helpless queers everywhere!!! Up! Up! And Away!!!

 

[John H.]

A Freudian slip ? Perhaps

Hi Spike,

Oh. I did not "intend" that but now that you "point it" out - sure why not?

(I always type a shortened version of a person's name when I write back to someone - not out of any disrespect but to address them personally and make connection with that persion).

Take Care, John H.

 

[John H.]

This is taking on a familiar pattern:

1) John starts a gay-ass thread.
2) We all make it clear to him how annoyed we are by this.
3) OD makes it even more clear via his novella-sized posts.
4) Two weeks later John comes back to annoy us further with a reply to each and every comment anybody ever made. And since he apparently finds it necessary to match each comment's length, word for word with his own, his reply to OD soon turns into a war of books.
5) OD hides some nasty line about homos in one of his gigantamus posts.
6) Another two weeks go by.
7) Minotaur (official defender of the buttholy-enhanced) manages to dig up the offensive remark, and begins round 2 with OD.
8) Rinse and repeat.

So can we like skip to the chase and just ban John's troublemaking ass already?...Please?

Hi Max,

Sorry truly if I upset you or anyone here - I certainly DO NOT intend that at all. And I would never want you banned or anyone else because it is very important for everyone to be able to speak freely no matter....

OD's replys are lengthly - probably purposefully so in order to wear a person down or whatever...

My threads are with the intention of discussing Sexuality - from ALL ASPECTS, Genders, etc. - Heterosexual, BiSexual and Homosexual. I want all people to be included - as intended by Nature.

(On a "lighter note - Max, your "rolleyes" (NOT sarasticially either) - you would not want ME to "take that" the "wrong way" would you?!)

Take Care (Sincerely), John H.

 

[John H.]

Quote:
Originally Posted by OceanDude
Hugs,
OD



Haha.

Hi Du,

I think that WAS OD's "intention" ....

Take Care, John H.

 

[John H.]

Yep, he gets to see naked men bathe at the gym's shower room.

Hi MinO,

Actually I work out at home. If I did at a gym sure I would take a shower there before I left and in the past I have but I actually do not "look" at other Guys there - maybe in the gym while I am working out myself but not really in the shower - not that I couldn't - I just really never have - honestly! I have had other Guys look at me and I am fine with that completely.

Take Care, John H.

 

[John H.]

No, but that's for a completely different reason. There's no need to rationalize when you are considered to be in the 'norm'

What scares me is you post so much material on homosexuality alone, that it's obvious that you aren't comfortable with it.

You mostly post about this one lol

What else interests you, out of curiousity?

Hi Luke,

I am VERY comfortable with all aspects of life and living, and Sexuality - as long as each person is of age and ability of consent and give that consent freely.

Ah, the "norm" - just exactly WHAT IS the "norm" since there is variety - variation - in ALL THINGS naturally so. And "who" "sets" the "standard"?.... I look to Nature and the Natural world for a lot of information as well as all other sources...

I post a lot of things really but I am "currently on" this subject - Sexuality. I am interested in a lot of things not just Sexuality. I love farming, camping, canoeing, boxing, bodybuilding, wrestling (not really the WWF kind but the real thing), karate, etc. - a lot of different things really.

(Luke, if that is a picture of you below your name I want to tell you you look like you are doing a DAMN GOOD job Buddy - PLEASE stay with it - you WILL always be damn glad you did! - Personal note to you sincerely!!!!!)

Take Care, John H.