need help!!!!

[rob_1983]

Is this any good????

Hey guys, im a new member to you forum, i am about 150 pounds 5'8 i have some fat to me but am pretty lean, i work out about 3 times a week i have neva taken a protein powder always just ate good food, now im staying away from wheat for a while and seeing how much leaner i can get, its only been a week but i can really tell the difference, so i was introduced to this whey protein powder called maxmius this is the stats NUTRITIONAL INFORMATION (varies slightly, depending on flavour)
Serving Size: 41 grams (1 scoop)
Servings Per Container: 28
Energy = 140 Cal
Protein = 27g
Fat = 1.4g
Carbohydrates =11g
so what would the effects be if i take this shake before and after a workout or should i just take it after??, would i see increased mass size or just lean up with this shake, any help would be great, thanks

 

[fufu]

Protein powder is a good way to supplement meals, but make sure you eat solid foods too! I would assume the effects of taking the stuff would be better muscle recovery and a gain in weight? I don't know exactly what you mean by "leaning up". If you eat more calories than you burn you will gain weight and visa versa.

sidenote: why yould you stop eating wheat to get leaner??? don't tell me you cut all carbs out of your diet or something.

 

[rob_1983]

hey, no i havent cut all carbs out because i know thats a good source of energy, i just limit them and try to keep them clean, instead of normail bread, i eat rye whole wheat bread, and lots of fruits and whole wheat spelt veggie patties, i try to eat about every 3 hours on average and im consuming lots of water, by leaning up, i mean getting more cut toning up, i am going to the gym about 3 times a week and doing all my muscles, i dont do any cardio though, i have actually just picked up the isoflex whey protein
: Amount Per 30 gram Serving:

Total Calories 115
Total Fat 0.5 g
Saturated Fat 0.4 g
Cholesterol 3.7 mg
Sodium 34 mg
Total Carbohydrates 1 g
Sugars 0 g
Protein 27 g

so i will take this after working out, but i will also consume many solid foods, just trying to keep them clean, and healthy!! wat would u do differently, and do u think i will get more muscle mass???

 

[fufu]

Well if you are trying to cut I don't believe you would gain muscle mass. In fact, gaining muscle mass isn't that easy, so if you arent trying to, I don't think you will. You'll lose the weight and lean up as long as you are burning more calories than you are consuming(along with a "clean" diet). Maybe you should keep track of your cal intake and see how things go.

 

[rob_1983]

ok, so do gain muscle mass, wat should i eat in addition to my protein powder and my workout, i just want to keep everything clean???

 

[fufu]

You should include: Steak, ground beef, chicken, turkey, and cottage cheese as far as protein goes(try to buy organic if you can). They are all staples of high protein diet. For carbs some good things would be whole grain breads, brown rice, whole wheat pasta, potatoes, and oats. Also should be eating a couple cups worth of veggies per day - spinach, carrots, broccoli, etc. You may also want to supplement with creatine and a multivitamin. And also remember to eat your fats! Avocados, olive oil, fish oil.

 

[GreenMan]

Question dude :

If you are staying away from wheat, are you replacing those carbs with rice or potatoes.

If not, you're effectively on a low carb diet, which can show dramatic results because you lose water on diets like this. However, they are not good for muscle gain.

If you are, then it's possible you have an intolerance to gluten - the protein in wheat, which is making you bloat as part of an allergic reaction.

150lb is quite slight for a guy of 5'8. If you want a bodybuilder physique, you are looking at 180lb plus. Your priority as a beginner should be to grow, grow & grow some more, without getting fat. Once you are a bit bigger, then think about getting lean - unless of course you want a physique like a lightweight boxer.

I would say more, but Fufu has already told you the important stuff.

 

[rob_1983]

hey, yeah i guess i should eat more, like my diet is i eat my vector cereal and bagel at around 8 , then at around 11, i eat a veggie patty, then at 2 i eat a cajun chicken sandwich with cheese, then another at 5, then at 8 usually i eat chicken breast and rice or fish and rice or potato, then i go work out and take my isoflex protein shake, thats my day, so i should be eating alot more then, u think?

 

[fufu]

Eat frequently. Try for 5-6 times a day. You are going to have to force feed yourself. The whole point to eating more frequent is because your body can't process all the food intake sufficiently(in an anabolic perspective) by gorging 3 times a day. By eating more often you can get the most out of you meals.

 

[Guru]

Rob make sure you are getting 1.5-2 X your BW in Protein ED.

 

[GreenMan]

Rob make sure you are getting 1.5-2 X your BW in Protein ED.

When I do that I get pains in my joints & my piss smells of ammonia. I'm 190lb - 175 - 200g of protien works just fine for me.

 

[NeilPearson]

When I do that I get pains in my joints & my piss smells of ammonia. I'm 190lb - 175 - 200g of protien works just fine for me.

You only need about 0.7-0.9 grams of protien per pound of body weight so 133g-171g is all you really need. Studies show that protien above that didn't help weight lifters gain mass faster. I think you are better off targeting that range and then making up the extra calories with fruits and vegetables and other good carb. That way you get all the protein you need and the energy from carbs you need for a good workout.

 

[Guru]

You only need about 0.7-0.9 grams of protien per pound of body weight so 133g-171g is all you really need. Studies show that protien above that didn't help weight lifters gain mass faster. I think you are better off targeting that range and then making up the extra calories with fruits and vegetables and other good carb. That way you get all the protein you need and the energy from carbs you need for a good workout.

Do you have any info to back that up, I would love to see it. I have some interest