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Do you think it is possible from messing with Tribulus products at a younger age (17-19) it could of put me in some type of deficiency at the age of 25 I am at now?

Im at a ridiculous plateau right now and thinking about maybe throwing some PH into the mix. I have never cycled gear in any way other then what I just mentioned above. (sorry for posting this here but I thought it may be an ideal spot since PH is topic of choice here ;p, also Ive been in the game for about 7years now). Maybe I should bring this elsewhere? Its just all the hype is in this thread so I figured itd maybe get some attention/answers.
 
would you need to stack this product with anything else?
 
Prince, I think longer cycles for non-methyls is fine. You should be fine at 8-10 weeks, aside from possible atrophy and somewhat delayed recovery due to cycle length.

Pirate, what would your opinion be of using hcg for an 8-10 week cycle of this product?
 
Do you think it is possible from messing with Tribulus products at a younger age (17-19) it could of put me in some type of deficiency at the age of 25 I am at now?

Im at a ridiculous plateau right now and thinking about maybe throwing some PH into the mix. I have never cycled gear in any way other then what I just mentioned above. (sorry for posting this here but I thought it may be an ideal spot since PH is topic of choice here ;p, also Ive been in the game for about 7years now). Maybe I should bring this elsewhere? Its just all the hype is in this thread so I figured itd maybe get some attention/answers.

No I do not think using Tribulus would have caused any testosterone deficiencies later in life, anabolic steroids and PH's could. Why exactly are you questioning your test levels?
 
Waiting to see what some people have to say then I will probably do a cycle as well
 
Waiting to see what some people have to say then I will probably do a cycle as well


Here is what I have to say about it that I posted up in another thread for someone wondering and waiting.




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I am not doing a log but let me say that I am on day 15 and my strength has increased without a doubt. My eating habits havent changed much other than I am very HUNGRY after working out. I have increased my protein intake and am choosing foods that are lean. (tuna, salmon, chicken breast, sirloin, oats, salads, veggies and LOTS of eggs in the morning 5 to 10 scrambled and hard boiled). You will need lots more water than you think. I drink all day long and sometimes I think its still not enough.

I did 8 days of 300 mgs, and now I am on 600mg for about 4 more weeks. I will finish this with a good pct for about 4 to 6 weeks all while maintaing my eating schedule I am on and continue the protein intake as well. I will also follow up with a lab draw to check that my values are back to normal range.

Libido has increased but nothing like a wild dog and I have had NO ISSUES with irritability or rage. I do however feel ready for the gym throughout the day and find my body to have some energetic moments about an hour after taking a dose.

I am seeing change in definition in my body as my strength increases and my routines are becoming different to push myself to the next level for me. I am not a HUGE powerful guy but take for instance curls, 4 to 6 weeks ago I could barely do 4 to 6 reps with the 80 pound eazy curl bar. Saturday I grabbed the 110 pound bar and knocked out 12 like it was nothing and then even threw in another set inwhich I knocked out 9 reps before failure. Is it from hard training or the supplement? I will let you decide.


Dont pass up this product that Prince is suggesting. Do some more research and go with what you feel is right and be sure to read EVERYTHING and dont rush it. WHat I mean is dont start with 600mg on day two thinking it will get you there faster. It takes time for your body to adjust and process what is happening.

Good luck in your decision.
 
No I do not think using Tribulus would have caused any testosterone deficiencies later in life, anabolic steroids and PH's could. Why exactly are you questioning your test levels?

Thanks for the reply Prince...I question it only because I see slight signs of a test deficit. My strength and gains are great, solid muscle mass etc...but less sex drive and feel lazy alot and Im only 25. Personally it probably solely has to do with taking Finasteride. I might be a little paranoid but, reading up about it and along with you also saying tribulus wont contribute to those factors puts me a little at ease (knowing its not considered a PH)

Im interested in this new PH you've cooked up as Im looking to take things to the next level but dont want to step all the way into Full on gear. Im not new to the supplement scene etc...just somewhat new to the PH deal. My main concerns are acne and hair loss. I have great skin and no acne if that matters (although highly raised test levels of course will make almost anyone break out atleast a little bit). I am affected by MPB and am currently taking finasteride and rogaine to help battle and further loss. So conversion to DHT is a facor although the fin will help battle that a bit.

I am clueless to stacking and would need heaps of information and a rock solid plan that I agree with before jumping in. I think I'll read over your sticky of everything you need to know PH again. From what it looks Nordiol is my best bet as it doesnt contain contents that will convert to/or that much dht?
 
also a side note Prince, reading your sticky...particularly the part "How can I avoid potential side effects"
Spironolactone is recommended to combat hair loss. Im no doctor but from what I know that is mainly used for Females to aid their HairLoss and most doctors "will not" prescribe this to a male patient! Finasteride/Propecia is your best bet ;)
 
Prince,

I am very interested in this product, and it's way too late for me to give a shiz about hair loss! (snicker, snicker)
 
Ok so I figure I will give updates as I see gains or changes.

So today begins week 3.
I am taking 600 mg/day, (6 capsules)
I have been taking 200 with breakfast, 200 at lunch and then I take my last 200 before I hit the gym with a single scoop of protein in my shaker with 20 ounces of water.
My weight is staying the same if not a pound or two less as I am not on a bulking routine and not really on a cutting routine just more of a maintain and strength routine for me. My muscle definition is appearing more defined for sure and my clothes are all tighter than a month ago.

Today I did a chest routine consisting of decline with barbell, over to flat bench with dumbells and then over to incline with dumbells. This was followed with a pec deck routine 3 sets of 12. I finished with tricep rope extensions and over the head standing tri extensions.

So I did a warm up and began to add weight to the point that I wanted a spotter. As my previous posts have stated, I am not HUGE (183 pnds)...lol.
I putt 235 on the barbell never having pushed this before!!!! Hell I dont know I have ever attempted it before. It was no problem as I did 6 reps. My buddy laughed that he didnt even need to be there. I went up to 275 and squeezed out 1 little reppie...with finger tip assistance.... :(
Either way, I have a new personal record of 235 and I know there is more in the tank but did not want to attempt another set today and will take the 235.

So on the barbells, I will keep it shorter but I again used MORE weight with my spotter and amazed even myself. On my flat bench I finished with 3 reps using 85pnds per hand and on the incline I used 70 pnds before everbody decided they needed to work out all around me and I left it at 70 pnds and went to something else.

On the other side of this in terms of libido and energy and other side effects.
My body wants food food food after a workout and I try my best to make my body happy but also want to avoid junk.
My libido does have an increase although its not out of control by any means.
I have lost no hair, had no pains, no cramps or bloating. My stool and urine are consistent color and smell. I do have huge urges of wanting to just stop what I am doing and lift some weight but I dont feel irritable or aggresive as I have with things in my past. :mad:

Sometimes I want to just stay in the gym but I know its not good and will force myself to go home. I am looking forward to what changes to my strength and body will occur in the following weeks.

Nothing is a substitute for hard work and determination and there is no "magic pill" that will allow you to look like a pro in a 5 to 8 week cycle. I know this and I hope you do to. I however do see and feel the results of the product and after these weeks I have to recommend it for anyone, especially if you feel you are at your "plateau" in the gym. As the products states, it does not convert as so many other PH's do. I consume a TON more of water and drink even if I am not thirsty as your body needs all the water it can handle when using ANY PH!

Stay tuned for more............

Go SOONERS!
 
Is anyone testing a bulk cycle on this? I'm talking max dose and 5000+ cals a day?
 
Suggested Use:
Use in cycles of 4 to 6 weeks taking at least 2 weeks off in between cycles. PCT (Post Cycle Support) is highly recommended after using this product, Anabolic-Matrix Rx can be used along with an anti-estrogen supplement such as 6-OXO or 6-Bromodione.
For more information on PCT please visit our support forums.

I trust the PCT list is this one below...
Cycle Support - POST Cycle Support
 
I have been reading all the FAQs about post cycle support and the cycles in general, but I still find it to be somewhat confusing/scary (for lack of a better word).

Am I oversimplifying things by saying you could basically take this product for a 6 week cycle, then immediately follow it up with something like 6-Oxo for 4 weeks and then be done with it, and not screw up anything major in your body? At that point, would you just start another cycle over again if you wanted to?

also, I remember asking this a while back but I didn't get an answer, would anyone know if a family history of prostate cancer would be a red flag to NOT use a PH product? My dad had prostate cancer about 10 years ago, and I was just wondering if I were to use this product would I be increasing my chances of developing it too.
 
I just got mine in the mail the other day. Will likely be starting tomorrow or maybe in a week. I can't wait!
 
I have been reading all the FAQs about post cycle support and the cycles in general, but I still find it to be somewhat confusing/scary (for lack of a better word).

Am I oversimplifying things by saying you could basically take this product for a 6 week cycle, then immediately follow it up with something like 6-Oxo for 4 weeks and then be done with it, and not screw up anything major in your body? At that point, would you just start another cycle over again if you wanted to?

also, I remember asking this a while back but I didn't get an answer, would anyone know if a family history of prostate cancer would be a red flag to NOT use a PH product? My dad had prostate cancer about 10 years ago, and I was just wondering if I were to use this product would I be increasing my chances of developing it too.


I am REALLY interested in any answers to this question and the one you had earlier. I am going to visit a Urologist next month for what I believe to be prostatitis, which is a swelling of the prostate sometimes due to infection or it can be chronic. It doesn't increase cancer risk, BUT I would like to know if this supplement shouldn't be taken at all with any prostate issue. I'd really like to try it, but don't want to mess anything up, so to speak. Thoughts?
 
I am REALLY interested in any answers to this question and the one you had earlier. I am going to visit a Urologist next month for what I believe to be prostatitis, which is a swelling of the prostate sometimes due to infection or it can be chronic. It doesn't increase cancer risk, BUT I would like to know if this supplement shouldn't be taken at all with any prostate issue. I'd really like to try it, but don't want to mess anything up, so to speak. Thoughts?

No.
 
Not to sound like a jaggov, but I assume you mean "no", as in don't take it, right?

I would not recommend that you use any PH's if you think you have a prostate issue.
 
I would not recommend that you use any PH's if you think you have a prostate issue.


Thanks for the advice, will do! I will hopefully have this issue resolved soon, if ever so I can try this product...thanks again!
 
Been on for two days now and I have not stopped eating the entire time. I wont jump on a scale for two weeks though. I dont want to get crazy about just what the scale says anymore, but I have a good feeling about this.
 
Been on for two days now and I have not stopped eating the entire time. I wont jump on a scale for two weeks though. I dont want to get crazy about just what the scale says anymore, but I have a good feeling about this.

nice.
 
i bought 6 bottles of 1-andro rx and am waiting to get it, i also bought the matrix for pct, what else should i buy? clomid? novalex? i tried to buy the recommended stack but just come up (blank page)? wtf? do you offer full pct packages for the guy that wants to buy it all in one order?
 
i bought 6 bottles of 1-andro rx and am waiting to get it, i also bought the matrix for pct, what else should i buy? clomid? novalex? i tried to buy the recommended stack but just come up (blank page)? wtf? do you offer full pct packages for the guy that wants to buy it all in one order?

The Anabolic Matrix gets run along side the 1-Andro. Its not your PCT. I would run some Milk Thistle during the cycle as well. 1-Andro is not that harsh on the liver, but I took it just to be safe. I ran 6-Trione as my PCT and had no issues.
 
where would i acquire the 6-trione? any suggestions? how did you like the results of using 1-andro? gains? plz elaborate thx
 
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