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A muscle does NOT need to be trained to failure for it to adapt by getting stronger and growing. Stoping 1-2 reps short of failure gives a muscle enough stimulation needed to make it adapt. In fact this way of training is favourable due to less stress on the CNS.
Of course failure training can be used be individuals to greater or lesser degree's but by NO means does a muscle have to fail to know its been worked.
Of course failure training can be used be individuals to greater or lesser degree's but by NO means does a muscle have to fail to know its been worked.
I don't insult people on the Internet much because its pointless, but you sir are a complete fucking idiot.
Muscles lengthen and contract, you can stimulate them to get bigger or leave them to get smaller, you can have a high bodyfat or lose the fat and REVEAL what their shape is but that is mostly diet related and has nothing to do with training.
There is no magic rep range for shaping or toning a muscle. You cant do an exercise in a certain way to stimulate a section of the muscle (ie- the belly of the bicep, the upper/inner/nipple area of the chest...)
I have "gone and read" if you must ask, the difference between me and you is that i've read about how things actually are, and you seem to have read some articles from fucking fantasy land where human physiology is dependant on the conscious will of the individual, bodybuilders are all natural, anecdotal information is gospel, and the land is run by little pink fairies that live in your shoes.
Go and read something that isnt complete fucking nonsense then YOU come back and apologise for what an ass you've been.
Im tired of these new guys that joined IM 2 hours ago, coming in here and talking shit to the vets that have been around and actually know what their stuff. If you dont know what your talking about then dammit dont post anything!!! Double D is a NASM CPT i'd listen if i were you.
Your avatar is a brilliant addition to this post.
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not refering to my post r u?
http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/training/81267-newbie-query-2.html#post1647068
not refering to my post r u?
http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/training/81267-newbie-query-2.html#post1647068
No....your post seemed logical.
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In a general sense, the word "shape" sends off bad signals around here... There might be a better question to ask.
For instance, when I first came here, I think I was discussing the different angles of bench presses. I had some questions, but because I used the words "target" or "isolate," it was hard to even start my road to understanding.
Now, I can understand where people are coming from most of the time cuz of how I went through this learning process.
Semantics. What a bitch.
For instance, when I first came here, I think I was discussing the different angles of bench presses. I had some questions, but because I used the words "target" or "isolate," it was hard to even start my road to understanding.
Now, I can understand where people are coming from most of the time cuz of how I went through this learning process.
Semantics. What a bitch.
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Hi
Thank you very much for the encouragement and advice.
I am new and if I do say something silly, I'd like you to understand that it's just my gross ignorance and not me trying to be a smarty pants. Umm is there some sort of general time period after which you can think yourself as sort of having fallen into the rhythm of working out?Or is it just a gut feeling you have to go with?Also, I suppose you people workout something like 4-5 hours a day? Would a total period of around 1.45 hours be deemed as too light? And ummm has anyone here tried the "bullworker"? Anyone got good results with it?(even the teensiest bit of muscle betterment?)
Thank you very much for the encouragement and advice.
I am new and if I do say something silly, I'd like you to understand that it's just my gross ignorance and not me trying to be a smarty pants. Umm is there some sort of general time period after which you can think yourself as sort of having fallen into the rhythm of working out?Or is it just a gut feeling you have to go with?Also, I suppose you people workout something like 4-5 hours a day? Would a total period of around 1.45 hours be deemed as too light? And ummm has anyone here tried the "bullworker"? Anyone got good results with it?(even the teensiest bit of muscle betterment?)
you should try to keep each of your weight lifting sessions to 60 minutes or less
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I never used to lift to failure but have just started as a way of altering my program a little to maybe kickstart new growth and improvement, but it is not necessary straight away, there are plenty of big guys out there who don't train to failure,
secondly locking out is dangerous 4 the joints on some exercises and takes the stress off the muscles which is counter-productive because stressing the muscles is what makes them grow
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60 minutes max?Well sir seems like I am overdoing it by a whole 45 minutes then but I dunno how I'll be able to cut down the time-higher tempo?
And about the lifting to failure, barbell boy, sir, that means I can keep going as I do and still hope to gain some muscle aye?That makes me happy
And about the lifting to failure, barbell boy, sir, that means I can keep going as I do and still hope to gain some muscle aye?That makes me happy
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60 minutes max?Well sir seems like I am overdoing it by a whole 45 minutes then but I dunno how I'll be able to cut down the time-higher tempo?
And about the lifting to failure, barbell boy, sir, that means I can keep going as I do and still hope to gain some muscle aye?That makes me happy
Yea your best bet is to read the stickies to get a good idea of how to structure a workout ie number of reps, sets and lengths of your rest periods. And u definately don't need to lift to failure to produce gains, as a noob you will increase steadily for a while before you plataeu (which happens to everyone don't worry) at this plataeu this is when you gotta switch it up and change your routine to kickstart new gains.
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Thank you sir.I'll go have a look at the stickies and get back when I get more questions
