Newbies first cycle!

[mrmarkmitch]

agree

listen to trouble, long ago I went by calories alone-ish, not only did the absorbtion rate seem to puzzle me but the weight gain was later partially lost, because you need to absorb effectively and yet still intake a surplus of cleaner foods. Look at the mass gainers made by bsn or ABB, and notice that GNC's mass gainer (frekin sugariszed 2200 calorie) which has over 800 calories more per serving than BSN/ABB, yet GNC's is crap and BSN's/ABB's will ironically allow you see the permanant results you so wish to see. I also like the concentrate on more strength training based when bulking because the two compliment each other w/newfound size and energy your body is experiencing. rest is just strickly educating yourself w/nutritional basis when intaking 4-5k of calories.

 

[Trouble]

Out of curiosity, I look at a look at the ingredients in these two mass gainers (BSN and GNC).

I think there might be good reason for the BSN product to be superior.

 

[ZECH]

Got me curious now..............

 

[mrmarkmitch]

yes

Well I worked at Vitamin Shoppe for one year, and I remember discussing it with a number of BB'ers and we all agreed that BSN's is by far the best. More than just shitty casein protein and simple carbs, which is what many of them compose of. I tried ABB's because it was cheaper, and it seemed to be almost as good, if i had the money tho, I'd go with BSN's mass gainer, but there's a few others that do the job i'm sure.

GNC's 1800 and 2200 gainers have over 80 simple surgar carbs (Moderators Note: and a lot of cheap-ass trigyceride fats) and w/o much vitamins/aa's. You can be much successful with 900-1100 calories of BSN's effective isolate protein along with their much more beefed up degestive enzymes and your stomach like trouble said wouild probably look like a scantron instead of a eggroll. heh. just take a look at the two and youll see just how shitty GNC's truly is.

Moderators Note: Decent summation comments made here by MrMark. Quite true. Add a little rice or oat bran to futher improve the growth enhancing effects of these gainer formulations. Our point isn't to disparage GNC's products, simply to point out that less ($) is not more (beneficial to mass gain goals)

(pardon the intrusion MrMark)

 

[Pirate!]

BSN's True Mass uses cheap sugar (maltodextrin) and there is nothing unique about the protein blend, although they make it wordy to sound fancy.

IMO, you are better off grinding up some oats, adding a tasty whey isolate blend (like ON Pro Complex) and a little sunflower oil and splenda.

What do you mean by "shitty casein"?