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Crash Landing: Even with Tom Brady gone, Jets can't beat Patriots
Crash Landing: Even with Tom Brady gone, Jets can't beat Patriots


BY RICH CIMINI
DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER

Sunday, September 14th 2008, 10:37 PM

Same new Jets.

They spent $140 million in a splashy offseason, traded for a Canton-bound quarterback and walked into an electric atmosphere for their home opener Sunday at the Meadowlands. With longtime nemesis Tom Brady watching on TV somewhere in Boston, the Jets felt it was their time.

Hardly.

It ended like so many other Patriot games, players shaking their heads and lamenting the mistakes that led to yet another defeat - the 11th in 12 games to New England. Actually, this was worse because the Jets lost, 19-10, to first-time starter Matt Cassel, Brady's previously anonymous understudy.

PHOTO GALLERY: JETS CRASH AND BURN IN LOSS TO PATS

"Same old story," said defensive end Shaun Ellis, who must feel like an extra in the movie "Groundhog Day."

A few lockers away, guard Brandon Moore echoed Ellis' words.

"It's frustrating," he said, still sweating long after his shower. "It's getting old."

"A lost opportunity," cornerback Darrelle Revis called it.

Even with Brett Favre on their side, and Brady out with a season-ending knee injury, the Jets (1-1) failed to stop the longest regular-season winning streak in history - 21 and counting. Will they ever beat the Patriots? Maybe they can go Charlie Weis on Bill Belichick, taking him out with a sideline collision.

"That might be in the game plan next time," Moore said in a moment of gallows humor.

There were no pithy remarks from Eric Mangini, who fell to 1-5 against his mentor-turned-enemy. Some of his postgame answers were as brief as his post-game handshake with Belichick. Mangini had reason to be angry; this wasn't one of his better coaching performances.

"You have to play good in all three phases of the game to beat them," he said. "We didn't play well enough in all three phases and make the plays we needed to beat them."

The game was relatively even on the stat sheet, but as they so often do against the Patriots (2-0), the Jets did just enough to lose. Favre (18-for-26, 181 yards) provided some life to the offense with several clutch third-down passes, but his third-quarter interception - his first as a Jet - set up the Patriots' only touchdown, a 1-yard run by Sammy Morris that made it 13-3.

"Maybe I got a little greedy. I could've dumped it in the flat," said Favre, who threw downfield into coverage for Chris Baker. "I just made a bad throw."

Stepping out of character, the Jets showed a lack of discipline, committing six penalties, including a killer roughing-the-passer call on linebacker Calvin Pace that allowed the Patriots to seal the game.

Two penalties were an indictment of the Jets' coaching - an illegal substitution on the second play of the game (12 men in the huddle) and a 12-men-on-the-field call on the defense on a first down in the fourth quarter. Rookie Vernon Gholston was the guilty party.

"We have to figure out a way to beat these guys, and the answer is clear: Too many penalties and bad field position," linebacker David Bowens said.

There were plenty of other blunders. How about new kicker Jay Feely, replacing the injured Mike Nugent, missing a 31-yard field goal on his first try? How about the defense getting burned for 22 yards on a third-and-9 screen pass to Kevin Faulk? That's a staple play for the Patriots, but yet several Jets defenders said they were caught off-guard by the play. That set up Morris' touchdown.

The Jets allowed only 260 total yards, holding Randy Moss to two catches for 22 yards, but they failed to disrupt the Patriots' controlled passing attack. Cassel (16-for-23, 165 yards), starting his first game since high school, nickel and dimed them into submission.

Cassel managed to play Favre to a draw, as the Jets had only three good scoring opportunities. They converted once, as Favre threw a 2-yard touchdown to a wide-open Chansi Stuckey, but they blew their best opportunity - a first-and-goal from the 3 in the second quarter.

With a chance to take a 7-6 lead, coordinator Brian Schottenheimer turned into a combo of Herm Edwards and Woody Hayes, trying unsuccessfully for three yards and a cloud of dust. Three times, he sent Thomas Jones into the line. Total net: Zero yards. Left tackle D'Brickashaw Ferguson got blown up on third down from the 1.

The Jets went to their power package, with three tight ends on all three plays. There were no wide receivers in the game, which may have tipped their hand. They played to the Patriots' strength, their front seven. With a Hall of Fame quarterback on your team, why not take a shot in the end zone?

"We had been running the ball very well and liked our opportunity there," Mangini said. "We thought that was our best chance at that point."

"It's not a good feeling to get stuffed three times in a row, especially on core plays," Moore said.

Favre refused to second-guess Schottenheimer for the conservative play-calling, preferring to take a take-full approach to the entire game.

"We're not that far off," he said. "When we turn that corner, I have no idea."
 
Favre sucks.
 
Exactly.... Favre needs some tools to work with.

He looked like shit when the Packers had nothing as well.
 
Sloppy Brett Favre throws 2 picks, rolls ankle; Jets fall to Chargers 48-29

BY RICH CIMINI
DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER

Monday, September 22nd 2008, 10:56 PM

SAN DIEGO - An ugly, almost embarrassing game for the Jets, who imploded Monday night in a 48-29 loss to the Chargers, ended with this sobering snapshot in their cramped locker room:

Brett Favre sitting in front of his locker stall, his left ankle wrapped in an Ace bandage. It was difficult to tell which hurt him more, the ankle or his two costly interceptions.

"I think they're okay," Favre said of the X-ray results, "aside from the old ankle."


Favre said he "rolled" his ankle in the third quarter, although he stayed in the game until his mercy pulling with two minutes left in the disaster at Qualcomm Stadium. He has played with worse injuries during his amazing streak of 256 consecutive starts - assuming this is just a routine sprain - so it's hard to imagine him sitting out next week against the Cardinals.

It was that kind of night for the Jets (1-2), who committed three first-half turnovers and gave a gift touchdown with an onsides kick that backfired - four blunders that resulted in 28 points for the Chargers (1-2). The 48 points were the most allowed by the Jets since the 1995 opener, Rich Kotite's debut.

"We can't play this way," Eric Mangini said, seething. "Too many self-inflicted wounds."

The nation received its first prime-time viewing of Favre in a Jets uniform. Unfortunately for the Jets, they, too, acted like it was their first time in the presence of the future Hall of Famer.

After a week of heavy criticism for conservative play-calling, Mangini loosened the reins on Favre and the result was a mistake-filled meltdown before a raucous crowd and millions of TV watchers who probably were left with the same impression: Maybe he should've stayed retired.

Facing the NFL's 31st-ranked pass defense, Favre was out of sync with his receivers and threw both interceptions in the first half, Antonio Cromartie returning the first 52 yards for a touchdown. Favre (30-for-42, 271 yards) made two other ill-advised passes that almost were intercepted, underscoring his lack of familiarity with the playbook - although he insisted that wasn't the case.

"I feel much better with the offense," said Favre, who threw touchdown passes to Laveranues Coles (7 yards), Chansi Stuckey (4) and Dustin Keller (13) - the latter two in garbage time. "There are no excuses from my end tonight to say, 'I'm still learning the offense.' I, as well as the rest of the offense, made some mistakes. ... Bad plays."

The Jets made it easy for the Chargers, giving their high-powered opponent great field position because of three turnovers. A first-quarter fumble by Thomas Jones, coupled with Favre's two interceptions in the second quarter, resulted in 16- and 45-yard touchdown drives by the Chargers.

"I don't think it was a function of not being on the same page," Mangini said of Favre's mistakes. "There were some throws he'd like to have back."

Questionable strategy by Mangini set up another San Diego touchdown. After the touchdown to Coles, which closed the deficit to 17-14, the Jets squandered their momentum with a surprise onsides kick that was recovered by the Chargers.

It was a daring move by Mangini, and it became the turning point in the game. The Chargers converted the break into the second of Philip Rivers' three touchdown passes, a 27-yarder to a wide-open Chris Chambers. It was 31-14 at halftime, and the Jets never really threatened again.

Mangini, explaining the onsides kick, said the Jets went to an overloaded look on one side and "we had more guys than they had. We wanted to do it after a momentum-changing situation like a touchdown."

Wallace Wright jumped for the ball, and came up with air.

"I had my fingertips on it," Wright said. "I should've come down with it."

Playing consistently on a short field, the Jets' defense, minus nose tackle Kris Jenkins (first-quarter back injury), couldn't stop the Chargers. Rivers passed for 250 yards on 19-for-25 efficiency, with LaDainian Tomlinson and Darren Sproles combining for 105 yards on the ground.

The secondary suffered several communication lapses, the biggest coming on Chambers' TD grab.

"We didn't do anything right," safety Kerry Rhodes said. "There were a lot of miscommunications. I don't know if it was the stage of Monday night or what."
 
That was one ugly game. See Jets suck. Favre can't fix a shitty team.
 
Yea, the Jets suck but I figured they would even after getting Favre.

The good thing about being a Dolphan is the expectations are very low so when we do something like we did this week we're all warm and fuzzy inside.
 
soxmuscle said:
Favre sucks.
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Brett Favre throws career-high 6 TDs as Jets rout Cardinals, 56-35

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

Sunday, September 28th 2008, 5:21 PM

The New York Jets' defense rattled and roughed up Kurt Warner in the second quarter, and Brett Favre took care of the rest.

Favre threw a career-high and Jets-record six touchdown passes, including three to Laveranues Coles, and New York took advantage of a series of mistakes by Arizona in a big second quarter before holding on to beat the Cardinals 56-35 on Sunday.

Arizona wide receiver Anquan Boldin was carted off the field after a scary helmet-to-helmet collision with Eric Smith in the end zone with 27 seconds remaining.

Boldin was moving all his extremities on the field and was talking to his teammates coming off the field and going into the locker room. He was being taken to a hospital for precautionary reasons.

"He's alert," Cardinals coach Ken Whisenhunt said. "He's talking and moving all his extremities. He asked to get up and the doctors won't let him."

New York's defense forced five turnovers - three fumbles and two interceptions - in the first half and the Jets (2-2) set a franchise record by scoring 34 points in the second quarter.

Favre, showing no signs of a left ankle injury that hobbled him during the week, finished 24-for-34 for 289 yards. Coles had eight catches for 105 yards and Jerricho Cotchery had two touchdown catches as the Jets, wearing their navy and gold New York Titans throwback uniforms, scored the second-most points in franchise history.

Warner tried to bring the Cardinals (2-2) back in the second half as Arizona scored 35 points. Warner, 40-of-57 for 472 yards, threw a 14-yard TD pass to Jerheme Urban with 4:49 left, but lost the ball again on a fumble with less than 3 minutes left.

Favre hit Dustin Keller for a 24-yard touchdown and a 2-point conversion with 1:54 remaining to seal it.

Arizona's Larry Fitzgerald had eight catches in his 64th career game, making him the third-fastest to 350.

After a scoreless first quarter, the Jets got on the scoreboard early in the second when Favre found Coles streaking across the back of the end zone for a 7-0 lead 16 seconds into the quarter.

Darrelle Revis gave the Jets a 14-0 lead just over a minute later on a 32-yard interception return, the first touchdown of the second-year cornerback's career.

Coles caught his second touchdown pass of the game with 7:17 left in the half as he went uncovered down the left sideline as Eric Green crumpled to the turf near the line of scrimmage with a sprained right knee.

New York got the ball right back when Smith intercepted Warner on a pass intended for Boldin. Jay Feely kicked a 20-yard field goal with 3:32 remaining in the half to give the Jets a 24-0 lead.

Warner turned the ball over again when he was sacked from behind by Calvin Pace, who forced a fumble that was recovered by David Harris. Favre and Coles connected for the third time on a 2-yard score with 10 seconds left to make it 31-0.

After getting the ball back, the Cardinals chose to run a play instead of taking a knee - and paid for it. Warner was sacked by David Bowens, who knocked the ball out of the quarterback's hands and recovered it. Feely came out and kicked a 30-yard field goal as time expired, and the Jets ran into the locker room to a standing ovation.

James got the Cardinals on the scoreboard on their first possession of the second half, running the ball in from 4 yards. Arizona made it 34-15 on its next possession, capping a 13-play drive with a 2-yard touchdown run and 2-point conversion by James.

The Cardinals recovered an onside kick and drove down the field in seven plays, with Tim Hightower running the ball in from 1 yard to make it 34-21. Arizona again went for a 2-point conversion, but failed.

Favre came back and connected with Cotchery on a 17-yard touchdown with 11:50 remaining, but Boldin had an 8-yard touchdown catch with 9:49 left, making it 41-28.

Again, Favre led the Jets down the field and hit Cotchery again for a 40-yard touchdown.
 
That was a fun game to watch. I'm glad Arizona made it interesting in the third quarter.
 
Ohhhh man...

Brett Favre, definately in the hall of fame. Come on guys he is 1 of the all time greatest!
 
Jets' 3-2 mark looks much better than Gang Green's play
he 40-year anniversary of the Jets' one moment is coming up in January. And for most of the time since Joe Namath made them champions, they would have found a way to lose to the Bengals and then beat themselves up for blowing it against such a sorry team.
So, about the only good thing that came out of the Jets' sloppy and uninspired 26-14 victory over the try-hard winless Bengals is they managed not to lose while playing down to the level of the lowly competition. If they had performed this way against a good team, they would have gotten blown out, just like they did in San Diego.
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Thomas Jones, defense batter Rams as Jets earn largest win in team history
They knew it was big, but they had no idea how big until Eric Mangini provided the perspective. Speaking in the locker room after Sunday's 47-3 rout of the Rams at the Meadowlands, the Jets' coach informed the team that it was the largest margin of victory in franchise history.
That prompted a few cheers. It was about that time when tackle Damien Woody, one of the Jets' wise heads, blurted out a statement that caught the ear of Brett Favre, who later shared it with reporters.
"Guys," Woody said to those within earshot, "this is how good we can be."
Hide the women and children: There's a green monster on the loose.
 
Meh the whole AFC east has the easiest schedule in Football. Woohoo they beat the Rams.
 
All this Jets hype will be put to rest on Thursday night.
 
Cassel > Favre

Brady isn't needed to beat the Jets, that was proven on the road weeks ago.
 
At this point in their careers, I'd say it's a lot closer than the general public might think.

People have been sucking Favre's balls for years, so I understand why the public thinks in this manner.
 
The rapidly improving Cassel, who beat the Jets in his first start in Week 2, is playing with much more confidence, throwing for 234 yards and scoring on a 13-yard ad lib run Sunday.
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I really hate Brett Favre.
I get erections thinking about the Patriots.

It makes sense that I'd think Cassel is better than Favre. Realistically, I don't think you can make that conclusion either way you look at it because Favre has been great at times this year and horrible at other times while Cassel has started eight games since he graduated high school.

Should be a good one on Thursday though.
 
Jets sign five-time Pro Bowl cornerback Ty Law

In a move that reeks of desperation, the Jets reached into their past - and the Patriots' past - by agreeing to a one-year contract Monday night with former Pro Bowl cornerback Ty Law, his agent confirmed.
Just in time for the Jets-Patriots showdown Thursday night in Foxborough, where the two rivals will battle for first place in the AFC East. Law, 34, in an interview with NFL.com, said he expects to play in the game at cornerback and perhaps safety.
Law picked the Jets over a handful of other teams, including the Patriots, according to his agent, Carl Poston.
The move smacks of typical Jets-Patriots gamesmanship, although Law is four years removed from New England, so it's unlikely the Jets would gain any strategic advantage.
"Ty was of the mind-set that he wanted to go to a contender, a team with a shot at the playoffs," Poston told the Daily News. "The Jets offered the best situation for him."
The two sides had been talking since the summer, said Poston, adding that things heated up about two weeks ago. Law's interest in the Jets piqued when the team traded for Brett Favre in August, according to Poston.
Law, a five-time Pro Bowl selection, played with the Patriots from 1995 to 2004. He signed a lucrative contract with the Jets and made the Pro Bowl in his only season, recording 10 interceptions. He became a salary-cap casualty, one of the first players released by Eric Mangini, who wanted to rebuild with youth.
Some within the organization felt Law was a prima donna and a bad influence on the young players. Mangini knows Law from their years together in New England, and the coach evidently is deeply concerned about his cornerback situation............more
 
Patriots' Adalius Thomas to have surgery, miss game against Jets
FOXBOROUGH - Just when Matt Cassel's arm seems to be getting dangerous, the Patriots face bad news about another one. Lynchpin linebacker Adalius Thomas reportedly broke his left forearm during the Pats' victory over the Bills on Sunday.
Although there was typically no confirmation from the tight-lipped Pats Monday, it appears Thomas will join his brethren on injured reserve. He'll definitely miss Thursday night's first-place showdown against the Jets, who failed to take advantage of Tom Brady's absence in their Week 2 loss. One report says Thomas, who is tied for the team lead with five sacks, will have surgery Tuesday.
The Patriots already have lost Brady, RB Laurence Maroney and SS Rodney Harrison for the duration and while they have recovered somewhat from those, Thomas will be hard to replace.
The versatile nine-year pro stays on the field in most every defense. He's been an outside pass rusher in the 3-4, off the line in the 4-3 and part of every sub package.
While the defense was still dominant after he left in the second quarter Sunday, the Jets present a more balanced attack. In the Patriots' win at the Meadowlands, he had three tackles and a 20-yard sack of Brett Favre, with Leon Washington trying in vain to block him.....................more
 
Thomas would be a huge loss for the Patriots if he were to miss the rest of the season. Losing your best offensive player is one thing, but losing the best player on the other side of the ball? Ugh.

Ty Law means nothing. The guys done. With that said, this is a move that Mangini has been known to make..
 
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