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OldSchoolLifter's Peptide & Anabolic Assault

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OldSchoolLifter???s Peptide & Anabolic Assault | Uncle Z Blog

Hey guys, I wanted to talk to you about a cycle I put together for a friend a few months ago, At the time he was 5???10 225lbs and 20% Body Fat Making his Lean Body Mass at 180lbs, so after going through some options I put together a cycle for him that can be used for Bulking as well as cutting, and is a sure fire way to shred some fat and preserve and gain muscle. The end result after 90 days is a 5???10 212lb guy at 13% take a little, and he is still going! ( trying to convince him for a picture, but for now you will need to believe me )


After I layout the cycle for you, I will explain to you why I chose each individual compound, and give you a better insight on the peptides and aas Chosen.


I call it

OldSchoolLifter Peptide- Anabolic Assault


1-13 Ghrp-2, 100mcg ??? SubQ Morning Upon Wake, Post Workout, Pre Bed
1-13 Mod-Grf(1-29) 100mcg SubQ Morning Upon Wake, Post Workout, Pre Bed
3-13 Test Prop 150mg/eod
3-13 Tren Ace 100mg/eod
3-13 Anavar 50mg/ed
1-13 - Clen 120mcg 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off Protocol.


Some of you are wondering or thinking what makes this different?? The secret is in the Peptides. As you know one the most significant things people notice while on Synthetic HGH is rapid fat loss. Do you know why this occurs? Lipolysis, and the release of FFA???s (free fatty acids), caused by the pulse increased Growth Hormone in your body. This is turn mobilizes excess fat, and limits it from re attaching and inhibiting your body as fat, But you still need to utilize the Free Fatty Acids and burn them off, or else after re consumption of food, they reattach, only to be released again on your next dose.

Before we Go any further, and talk about dosing protocols, and methods used to gain rapid fat loss, Lets go into what GHRP-2 and Mod-Grf(1-29) really is.


GHRP or (Growth Hormone Releasing Peptide) has 4 different options to choose from, in my experiment, I used Ghrp-2 this is a second Generation GHRP, The others are Ghrp-6, Hexarelin, and Ipamorelin.

Ghrp-2 Is more potent than GHRP-6 and Ipramorelin, GHRP-2 has a stronger effect on prolactin and Cortisol at all dosing levels rising to the high normal range. It has minimal Gastric affects, and should not cause stomach discomfort or major hunger pains like its counterpart GHRP-6, an effective dose of GHRP-2 is the same as all GHRP???s @ 1mcg per 2.2lbs of body weight, most users however dose at the saturation dose which is 100mcg. With GHRP-2 you do not need to cycle off, as your body will not desensitize to the compound.


And quickly the others

Hexarelin is just as strong as GHRP-2 but affects Prolactin, and Cortisol at much higher levels, Hexarelin has been shown to desensitize no matter the dose, and no matter the length of time used, and can happen at any moment, If this does happen, stopping use for a 8-10 day period will allow your body to utilize the compound once more. Hexarelin does affect gastric mobility and can cause stomach discomfort in users. Saturation dose is 100mcg

Ipamorelin is as potent as GHRP-6 , and does not affect prolactin or cortisol at any dose. Ipramorelin does not desensitize, and use can be on going, without losing effect. Ipamorelin does not cause any gastric issues, and will not increase hunger to the point of pain. Out of the 4 GHRP???s Ipamorelin is the safest, and has the least amount of sides than any of the GHRP???s on the market today, however, GHRP-2 and Hexarelin are the most potent form of GHRP. Saturation dose is 100mcg

GHRP-6 is as potent as Ipamorelin, and does not affect prolactin and cortisol under doses of 100mcg, but only affects these hormones minimally above 100mcg, GHRP-6 does affect stomach, and can cause major stomach discomfort in some users, It also increase Appetite greatly, and normally within 30 min after administration, Most use GHRP-6 to bulk with because of the increase in appetite. Saturation Dose is 100mcg

Mod-Grf(1-29) Or more commonly known as CJC-1295 W/O Dac, ( but really isn???t lol ) Is a GHRH (Growth Hormone Releasing Hormone) Taken alone will be as effective as drinking your Test E, ( not effective ) but when combined with a GHRP it nullifies the presence of Somatostatin which would halt a GH pulse. Think of Mof-Grf as an Amplifier, it takes the GH pulsed caused by GHRP???s and Amplifies its effect making the GH pulse received even greater. All the while turning ???off??? the presence of Somatostatin and allowing a high GH pulse. Getting Modified GRF is important because regular GRF such as cjc-1293 degrades very rapidly once injected, and the end result is a 4% usability, Modified GRF is Tetra Substituted. Because of 4 amino acid substitutions it will not rapidly metabolize in plasma and will make its way to the pituitary where it will affect growth hormone release, and the end result is a 90% plus usability in the blood stream.

Okay enough of that, we could go into the science of it all, but the purpose of this is to open your eyes to a new form of cycling, that we all can benefit from. The science part we can touch on later.


Now a lot of you over the years have read about GH being the kind of muscle growth and fat loss, but most of you cannot afford the required 6 month minimum, and or just can???t justify the cost, I don???t blame you! The reason HGH has such a pronounced effect on fat loss, is because it induces lipolysis which creates a release of FFA???s ( Free Fatty Acids ) Into the blood stream, mobilizing these fats allows the user to burn them much more effectively, even without cardio, a simple eca stack during the FFA release will result in the mobilized fats being burned. Now if the user consumes high amounts of fats, and or carbs within 1 hour after administration the FFA release is halted. Proteins do not affect the release.



You can mimic these fat loss affects buy creating GH pulses in your day with GHRP/Mod-Grf Stack. And at less than half the cost, what is stopping you? A 100mcg Dose of GHRP/Mod-Grf can result in a natural GH pulse of close to 15iu at its highest point 30 min after injection, over the course of 2 hours the pulse starts to decline back to base levels. Not only will you enjoy a nice FFA release allowing you to burn fats, but now you are increasing your pituitary glands GH pulses naturally, resulting in improved muscle growth, better sleep, and joint and tissue repair??? HMM doesn???t these effects sounds very similar to Synthetic GH?

The Protocol


Now, the recommend protocol on taking these Peptides is Morning upon Wake (Fasted) Post workout, and Pre Bed.
The reason we dose it like so, is to take advantage of the FFA and GH pulses at significant times of the day.
For example, If you are a coffee drinker, You wake up and take your morning fasted dose of GHRP/Mod-Grf you now have induced an FFA release, and during that first hour you have had a couple cups of coffee, that caffeine will start acting like a thermogenic burning off those fats that were stored from the day before! You can even take it a step further, and do morning fasted Cardio after your dose, and burn even more!

Now the Post Workout Dose, Dosing within 20min post workout will extend the Anabolic window due to the increase in GH in the blood, as well as significantly increasing IGF-1 levels resulting in your body???s ability to consume more useable proteins, and quickly repair the damaged tissue???s from your workout, making them stronger, and fuller resulting in muscle gain!

The Pre Bed dose, will give you a better more rested sleep, the higher levels of GH will allow you to achieve REM faster, and longer. As well as the Release in FFA???S will keep your body anabolic as you sleep, No more catabolic worries while you???re sleeping!. Also being that the human body naturally creates the most amount of GH, and muscle growth while you???re sleeping, supplementing peptides to increase the amount of GH while you???re sleeping, will result in much faster recovery, soft tissue and joint repair, and a sense of well being, all that are paramount to building new muscle.


Now if you want to save a little more cash, dosing at the two most important times, PWO and Pre Bed will still result, in great benefits, but Ideally 3 or more times through the day would be your best option.


Taken alone, without the use of anabolics is another great option when cutting, we take anabolics to maintain muscle mass while on calorie restricted diets. During the FFA release caused by the pulse of GH, those mobilized fats are now being used as a source of energy, keeping you full, and maintaining an anabolic environment, resulting in little to no muscle loss while on restrictions.

Conclusion:

You can use these Peps for bulking or for cutting they are extremely versatile, If you are not worried about the FFA release, eat away 30 min after, you will still benefit from the GH pulse, but the FFA release will be halted. In the case above, easting was only restricted for 2 hours after morning dose, the rest of the doses I did not limit when he could eat, as long as it was 30 min after injection to gain full benefit from the GH pulses. That alongside a clean diet, clen, and minimal cardio. With the help of Test, Tren and Var his results are outstanding. He is currently off cycle, and on TRT but still using the peptides to continue his fat loss journey.


I am doing the opposite, I am using them to bulk with, Dbol, Test,Tren, and peps, alongside 1mg folli next week! And my results have been excellent as well. I can???t wait to introduce the Myostatin Blocker.


If you haven???t already, grab you enough for 30 days, I assure you even within that short period of time, you will benefit from fat loss, improved sleep, better joint health, and Muscle recovery.



Signing off

OSL
 
1st. What is his age?
2nd. Thats a heavy load of stuff for the transformation, what was his history?


I know I personally still grow off of 500mg test a week, while losing bodyfat. What can you tell me about anavar?


GREAT POST!!
 
1st. What is his age?
2nd. Thats a heavy load of stuff for the transformation, what was his history?


I know I personally still grow off of 500mg test a week, while losing bodyfat. What can you tell me about anavar?


GREAT POST!!


He is 34, on TRT, did some heavy AAS use back in his 20's but fell off the wagon, I added the above becasue var would fit him perfectly, and prop would be great as well, but after goign through the options, we both saw tren as an ideal fit for him.

But I would recommend not cycling at or above 20%, but in the end it worked out nicley for him.

Anavar has been shown time and time again, to have fat reducing properties, as well as lean gains, Plus the increase in RBC, and collagen synthesis helps combat tren fatigue and Joint degeneration.
 
He is 34, on TRT, did some heavy AAS use back in his 20's but fell off the wagon, I added the above becasue var would fit him perfectly, and prop would be great as well, but after goign through the options, we both saw tren as an ideal fit for him.

But I would recommend not cycling at or above 20%, but in the end it worked out nicley for him.

Anavar has been shown time and time again, to have fat reducing properties, as well as lean gains, Plus the increase in RBC, and collagen synthesis helps combat tren fatigue and Joint degeneration.


I respect that. I know age and AAS history play a huge role in body transformation. I will be documenting a transformation while I go into my contest prep, I will be looking forward to your input. I wont be using any peptides as of right now but that can change. I am sitting at close to 240 but with a 15-17% bf (im guessing). Hopefully in the end I will have something nice:winkfinger::winkfinger::winkfinger:
 
Nice..............very nice and more to come I am sensing.Good work-Thanks-OD
 
Great stack OSL!!!!! I am running GHRP-2 alond side Mod(GRF-1) 3x daily and I am still gaining even on my pct!!!!! I gained 4lbs since which im sure is water but I still have 2 weeks of my pct and peps left so lets see what happens fellas!!!!:winkfinger:
 
Awesome post OSL. Learning something new everyday here!
 
Great job! nice!
 
Thank you guys, If you have any question let me know, and I will do my best to answer them. And if you too have experience and success with these peptides post up your results, and what you think! and if you haven't tried them, spend a few bucks and try em for a month! you will love it!
 
He is 34, on TRT, did some heavy AAS use back in his 20's but fell off the wagon, I added the above becasue var would fit him perfectly, and prop would be great as well, but after goign through the options, we both saw tren as an ideal fit for him.

But I would recommend not cycling at or above 20%, but in the end it worked out nicley for him.

Anavar has been shown time and time again, to have fat reducing properties, as well as lean gains, Plus the increase in RBC, and collagen synthesis helps combat tren fatigue and Joint degeneration.

Great post bro!!
 
Maby make a package deal on the peptides??
 
Thanks Guys, if time permits in a week or so Ill have an HGH and Slin write up. Also Today Ill be starting my Follistatin, so Look for the Log in research chem section sometime today!
 
Thanks Guys, if time permits in a week or so Ill have an HGH and Slin write up. Also Today Ill be starting my Follistatin, so Look for the Log in research chem section sometime today!

I will be looking forward to that Follastin-344 log bro!!!!!:winkfinger: I plan on running it in my next blast at week 8, 100mcgs for 10 days follwed by metha-drol or D-Bol still haven't made up my mind on the oral yet but Im sure it's going to be a fun bulk. I'm trying to break 200lbs by next April for my first show at the Jay Cutler Classic in Boston,MA!!!:ohyeah:
 
I will be looking forward to that Follastin-344 log bro!!!!!:winkfinger: I plan on running it in my next blast at week 8, 100mcgs for 10 days follwed by metha-drol or D-Bol still haven't made up my mind on the oral yet but Im sure it's going to be a fun bulk. I'm trying to break 200lbs by next April for my first show at the Jay Cutler Classic in Boston,MA!!!:ohyeah:

nice man! Yeah im on week 8 or so of my cycle, so starting the Folli is going to be a ride, Ill be able to really test out its full potential.

Right now im 5'8 208 12% so really looking forward to it!
 
nice man! Yeah im on week 8 or so of my cycle, so starting the Folli is going to be a ride, Ill be able to really test out its full potential.

Right now im 5'8 208 12% so really looking forward to it!

Thats whats up bro I can't wait to see those results!!! Your stats are almost my goals except less bodyfat lol, Im about 5"6 to 5"7 175lbs 10%bf. I'm trying to bulk up to around 205 or so!!!:winkfinger: But hey im in for the ride and maybe i'll learn a thing or two!!!
 
Great write up. Im interested in peptides but still would like to know more. Im interested in starting after my cycle. If i were to start would i start with my PCT or after my PCT? Im looking more for bulk then to burn fat so im guessing GHRP-6 would be best for me do to the big increase im apatite? You said Ghrp-2 does not have to be cycled off but does GHRP-6? Is their a recomonded time (days?, weeks?, months?) you should run this? Also is thier anything else that has to be run besides GHRP and GHRH when you use these to? One last question...(for now) is their any sort of PCT you should do once you stop taking these?
 
Great write up. Im interested in peptides but still would like to know more. Im interested in starting after my cycle. If i were to start would i start with my PCT or after my PCT? Im looking more for bulk then to burn fat so im guessing GHRP-6 would be best for me do to the big increase im apatite? You said Ghrp-2 does not have to be cycled off but does GHRP-6? Is their a recomonded time (days?, weeks?, months?) you should run this? Also is thier anything else that has to be run besides GHRP and GHRH when you use these to? One last question...(for now) is their any sort of PCT you should do once you stop taking these?

I would Start with PCT, and Continue afterwords. For bulking you can easily use either or, but since GHRP-6 does increase appetite, many prefer it when bulking, it in some ways numbs your stomach, and you keep shoveling food in! it is pretty nice.

GHRP-6 does not desensitize so you do not have to cycle of and on, you can run it ongoing. There is no coming off protocol, becasue all your deign is fooling your pituitary glad to produce more GH, your not actually supplementing it, so when discontinues, everything still functions as normal.

For appetite increase with GHRP-6 Doses need to be above 150mcg per time you dose.

Starting off PWO and Pre Bed would be a great way to start, then if you can moving to 3x a day would be even better.

You do not need to run Mod-Grf along side, but the GH pulse created by GHRP's are intensified when used in correlation. so not only will you be getting a nice hunger boost, but your GH pulses would be even higher. I would run both.

:winkfinger:
 
I would Start with PCT, and Continue afterwords. For bulking you can easily use either or, but since GHRP-6 does increase appetite, many prefer it when bulking, it in some ways numbs your stomach, and you keep shoveling food in! it is pretty nice.

GHRP-6 does not desensitize so you do not have to cycle of and on, you can run it ongoing. There is no coming off protocol, becasue all your deign is fooling your pituitary glad to produce more GH, your not actually supplementing it, so when discontinues, everything still functions as normal.

For appetite increase with GHRP-6 Doses need to be above 150mcg per time you dose.

Starting off PWO and Pre Bed would be a great way to start, then if you can moving to 3x a day would be even better.

You do not need to run Mod-Grf along side, but the GH pulse created by GHRP's are intensified when used in correlation. so not only will you be getting a nice hunger boost, but your GH pulses would be even higher. I would run both.

:winkfinger:

great thanks for the info that was very helpful. i would be running Mod-Grf onside of it especially if its that much more beneficial. Is their anytime in PCT i should start or just start the same day i start PCT? Lets say i use GHRP-6 and the hunger is to much would it be bad to switch over to GHRP-2? Ill start off at PWO and Pre bed and work my way up
anything else i should no or any helpful tips? i saw something somewhere about needed it to be refrigerated?
 
great thanks for the info that was very helpful. i would be running Mod-Grf onside of it especially if its that much more beneficial. Is their anytime in PCT i should start or just start the same day i start PCT? Lets say i use GHRP-6 and the hunger is to much would it be bad to switch over to GHRP-2? Ill start off at PWO and Pre bed and work my way up
anything else i should no or any helpful tips? i saw something somewhere about needed it to be refrigerated?


You can start day 1 of PCT, and then continue afterwords. If the hunger is "to bad" just lower the dose, but if you switch to GHRP-2 it wont make a difference in a negative way, only positive as GHRP-2 is stronger than 6.

I dont refrigerate it, Some do, I keep in a cool dark place with no issues.

You can always grab some IGF, to increase your levels while on PCT, research shows it helps maintain gains. But then again the GHRP's and GHRH's increase IGF naturally, so you may be able to just save a dime.
 
good im glad to hear i dont need to put it in the fridge. thanks for all the help and info guys i really aprechiate it! :clapping:

You can start day 1 of PCT, and then continue afterwords. If the hunger is "to bad" just lower the dose, but if you switch to GHRP-2 it wont make a difference in a negative way, only positive as GHRP-2 is stronger than 6.

I dont refrigerate it, Some do, I keep in a cool dark place with no issues.

You can always grab some IGF, to increase your levels while on PCT, research shows it helps maintain gains. But then again the GHRP's and GHRH's increase IGF naturally, so you may be able to just save a dime.
 
I really don't have much knowledge about this.
I have a pro-bber client who wants to include this into a future cycle of both 500mg of test enth, 400mg of tren ace, and wants to use this as an add-in. He's currently weighing 245-250 at about 9-10% fat. How much would he use? He'd be using it for cutting, and his source will only sell it in 5mg doses and only has access to Ghrp-2, which made me more confused. I want to give him the right answer, but just don't know much about this particular compound. Also, if he's using 1mg of adex EOD, should that change?
 
I really don't have much knowledge about this.
I have a pro-bber client who wants to include this into a future cycle of both 500mg of test enth, 400mg of tren ace, and wants to use this as an add-in. He's currently weighing 245-250 at about 9-10% fat. How much would he use? He'd be using it for cutting, and his source will only sell it in 5mg doses and only has access to Ghrp-2, which made me more confused. I want to give him the right answer, but just don't know much about this particular compound. Also, if he's using 1mg of adex EOD, should that change?


Hey jugg

Saturation dose is 1mcg per 2.2lbs body weight, So your friend will need 111mcg per dose for saturation, going higher has very minimal aadded benefits so staying at saturation is the most common way to dose.

He can run GHRP-2 Alone, but to intensify the GH pulse caused by the GHRP adding a GHRH like Mod-Grf or ( cjc-1295 w/o dac ) is preferred, becasue not only will it intensify the effect, but also make it a longer pulse.

Adex is fine, I prefer aromasin, but if the GHRP's and GHRH's are taken correctly, and allow the FFA release to work, you can burn great amounts of fat with some effort.



OSL
 
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