Operation: Bring Junkboxers balls back to life.

[Junkboxer]

As some of you know from my other thread, im on TRT and i occasionally blast (twice a year). However, ever since i started TRT my balls have shrunk to peanuts, even more-so during the blasts and they never recovered. i blame this on the fact i NEVER used HCG. i started HCG 2 months ago at 500ius 2x/week:

Tues: 500iu HCG
Wed: 175mg Test Cyp/100mg deca (IM DROPPING THE DECA THIS WEEK)
Thurs: 500iu HCG

heres my mistake, i reconsituded my HCG with Sodium Chloride which only lasts a week lol. i wasnt aware of this. i just picked up (2) 30ml vials of BA water. i was told when HCG is mixed with BA and kept in a fridge it lasts 30 days. Now here are my serious questions:

1. The (2) vials of BA water, will they last indefinably? i'm aware they last 30 days when mixed with HCG but what about the plain ol' vials of BA. i got 60mls total. please tell me BA, on its own, has a very long shelf life lol.

2. Got my blood test out of the way today so i'm g2g with operation testicle recovery. My arsenal consists of Nolvadex, Aromasin, Arimidex, HCG and of course my testosterone. untill my blast, ill keep my dosage of test cyp between 175mg to 200mg/week. But now that i have HCG that will actually work, how much should i do? what days and for how long? i was told 500ius EOD but id like to hear all of your opinions. also should i incorporate my nolvadex, and if so, how much? give me a nice little protocol guys. ill really really appreciate it.

3. I take 6.25mg of Aromasin EOD now, however with such a high does of HCG, how should i augment my Aromasin dosage?

4. Will i experience and libido problems? this is my main concern. i don't want to block to much estrogen.

*once my balls are back to normal i plan on lowering my dose to 250ius 2x/week on cruises and 500ius 2x/week during blasts.

 

[Junkboxer]

Small update, my impatient ass couldn't wait:

Heres what i just did:

-Injected 5000IUs of HCG (i was very liberal with this dosage because this particular brand came reconsitituted in a 10000IU vial. seems fishy to me, so im just going to inject the reat of it (another 5000IUs) on thursday and then resume on whatever protocol you guys reccomend next week with the HCG i KNOW is legit.
-Took 20mg of Nolva, which i will continue to do everyday until balls are fat again; unless you guys tell me otherwise of course.
-Injected 175mg of test cyp ( NO DECA ), im done with it.
-i didnt take any aromasin. im waiting on you guys on telling me what to do. wont the nolva kill any chance of estrogen build up so i can hold of on the asin for the time being?

PS, got a date friday, how will my libido be?

 

[independent]

I would start running 250ius everyday for a week, you could even run 500iu's. Make sure you continue with your ai. You dont need nolva since youre on trt. Just be patient.

 

[Standard Donkey]

what about hmg and clomid?

 

[Junkboxer]

I would start running 250ius everyday for a week, you could even run 500iu's. Make sure you continue with your ai. You dont need nolva since youre on trt. Just be patient.

wont nolva at 20mg/day help the boys grow too? and with since ill be running a ton of HCG how should i change my aromasin dosage? Also, any word on how long BA will last in the bottles it came in?

 

[Junkboxer]

what about hmg and clomid?

my bank acct is getting drained with all this stuff, i just bought another giant bottle of asin. and im purchasing my summer blast this week. thats running me around 400. the thought of buying another ai sickens me.

 

[independent]

wont nolva at 20mg/day help the boys grow too? and with since ill be running a ton of HCG how should i change my aromasin dosage? Also, any word on how long BA will last in the bottles it came in?

I guess it cant hurt, I just like to keep things simple. You could run your asin at 12mgs everyday to start. Your bac water should last quite some time.

 

[Junkboxer]

I guess it cant hurt, I just like to keep things simple. You could run your asin at 12mgs everyday to start. Your bac water should last quite some time.

so do i but im just sick of these little peanuts and tiny loads lol. after i do my summer blast its back to simple simple basics: my prescribed test dosage, some hcg and some asin if needed.

 

[overburdened]

Small update, my impatient ass couldn't wait:

Heres what i just did:

-Injected 5000IUs of HCG (i was very liberal with this dosage because this particular brand came reconsitituted in a 10000IU vial. seems fishy to me, so im just going to inject the reat of it (another 5000IUs) on thursday and then resume on whatever protocol you guys reccomend next week with the HCG i KNOW is legit.
-Took 20mg of Nolva, which i will continue to do everyday until balls are fat again; unless you guys tell me otherwise of course.
-Injected 175mg of test cyp ( NO DECA ), im done with it.
-i didnt take any aromasin. im waiting on you guys on telling me what to do. wont the nolva kill any chance of estrogen build up so i can hold of on the asin for the time being?

PS, got a date friday, how will my libido be?

If you wanna get them back as quickly as possible you will need to suppress estrogen as much as possible(without killing sex drive).. aromasin is perfect for this! you can take 25mg ed or even 50 mg ed probably without eliminating sex drive(aromasin does not stop e2 dead in its track as well as letro or adex will, but that is fine, since you don't want to eliminate it to the point of losing sex drive)...

 

[overburdened]

what about hmg and clomid?

I think he said before he can't use(or didn't want to use clomid).. but hmg will def help!

 

[Junkboxer]

how do you feel about my 20mg daily nolva dosage?

EDIT: btw, just took 25mg of aromasin. i take bigmoes and your advice seriously and immediately lol

 

[Standard Donkey]

my bank acct is getting drained with all this stuff, i just bought another giant bottle of asin. and im purchasing my summer blast this week. thats running me around 400. the thought of buying another ai sickens me.

neither of those are an ai..


they definitely should both help

 

[teezhay]

Why are you screwing around with maintenance doses of HCG? Call me crazy, but I'd just pin a couple thousand iu at once...

Edit: Okay, I guess you basically did this already. If all else fails, hop on HMG. You'll have to sling your 5-pound scrotum over your shoulder just to get to the gym the next day.

 

[Junkboxer]

cant get HMG. sucks. im just waiting for my order of HCG to come in from RRXpharm (<--thats secret enough, right?) so i can blast these giant doses. i already have some HCG on hand but not enough to do like 500ius every day for a little bit.

again, can you guys please comment on my intake of nolvadex @ 20mg a day? will this help the balls too?

 

[Standard Donkey]

cant get HMG. sucks. im just waiting for my order of HCG to come in from RRXpharm (<--thats secret enough, right?) so i can blast these giant doses. i already have some HCG on hand but not enough to do like 500ius every day for a little bit.

again, can you guys please comment on my intake of nolvadex @ 20mg a day? will this help the balls too?

doubt it would hurt..


but seriously clomid and hmg will do the trick.. if you cant get hmg try clomid


tormifene is supposed to be good as well

 

[overburdened]

how do you feel about my 20mg daily nolva dosage?

EDIT: btw, just took 25mg of aromasin. i take bigmoes and your advice seriously and immediately lol

I think your nolva is fine...

 

[Junkboxer]

ok im going to place an order on RS. im either gona go with clomid or torm. lemme do a little reading for 10 mins

 

[Junkboxer]

dam, only 2 mins of reading and thread after thread about torm and all i keep hearing is about how it made guys balls drag to the dam ground lol. TORM it is

EDIT: purchased the TORM. should i still continue the nolva? what should the torm protocol look like? im COMPLETELY unfamiliar with this product.

 

[overburdened]

dam, only 2 mins of reading and thread after thread about torm and all i keep hearing is about how it made guys balls drag to the dam ground lol. TORM it is

EDIT: purchased the TORM. should i still continue the nolva? what should the torm protocol look like? im COMPLETELY unfamiliar with this product.

did you already order? the clomid would have been the better choice IMO... for some reason I thought you said on your other thread you didn't want to take clomid...that's why I didn't suggest it.... but SD was correct in suggesting it... especially with the hcg, it will do wonders

 

[Junkboxer]

lol i told you i take advice quickly. so yea my arsenal now consists of Testosterone Cyp, HCG, Nolvadex, Tormifene, Aromasin and Arimidex. Set me up with a protocol baby!!! (pls include the torm since i just spent 120 to overnight it haha)

Edit: just letting you know the Test Cyp dosage will stay at 175mg/week until i blast in mid to late june. i just need to know the dosages and time frames for these other substances to bring the boys back.

 

[overburdened]

can you cancel that order and switch it for clomid?

 

[Junkboxer]

it says its being packaged and can no longer be changed. i find that weird since it was just placed. Whatever though, i read a bunch of threads titled "clomid vs torm" and almost everyone favored torm.

 

[overburdened]

ok... I'll do some more reading and post something for you tomorrow... I've not used toremifene, I've done some reading on it... but i'll find some good info and write up a protocol tomorrow... I know more about clomid, and have used it MANY times.... so I feel far more comfortable telling someone how to take it...

 

[Standard Donkey]

you really shouldnt need much of an AI for 175mg of cyp.. probably like .25mg adex EOD unless you are really sensitive then it should be ED..

 

[Junkboxer]

awesome, VERY much appreciated man. repped

 

[Junkboxer]

you really shouldnt need much of an AI for 175mg of cyp.. probably like .25mg adex EOD unless you are really sensitive then it should be ED..

i keep my AIs on hand for a blast or if i raise my dose to a cruise level of around 200mg to 250mg/week. right now im doing 12.5mg of aromasin and 20mg of nolva a day cause im blasting the hell out of my body with HCG. this is all to bring my balls back. hopefully ill get a better protocol tomorrow when overburdened writes something up. however, once my balls are back to their normal size its just: 175mg/week of Test and 250IUs of HCG 2x/week and aromasin at 6.25mg ED or EOD.

 

[Junkboxer]

ttt

 

[independent]

ttt

You have a testicle fixation dont you?

 

[Junkboxer]

lmao i just want my big balls back

 

[SloppyJ]

Dude do you just start taking what anyone tells you to? You need to step back and evaluate. Those kinds of fast decisions led you into this mess.