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P-Side Training: Developing the Beast (the ultimate athlete)
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Best of luck bro! WORK HARD!!!
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I must thank you for the recent emails that you have sent with all the amazing links. My fav is the jerk from behind the neck.. makes me want to go try it. My push presses are, I am finding, more jerks than they are presses... this may be a good thing, when I get to the nitty gritty of oly lifts. For all the pressing I do, my delts are not that impressive, but I really don't do much else for hypertrophy. I am finding it VERY difficult to "unlearn" the bodybuilding mentality. I got slow as I got big, too, and that is another area to which I must tend.
Sick 1000 low squat.. they, too are hard for me, because I just don't feel like I set them up right, and that my lower back is compromised. Perhaps I should ease into them.
Over head squats are one of my new faves... still dont do much weight, about 95 lbs, but I don't use "real" oly barbells like Youk or Eleiko. We have the standard weightroom "olympic" style weights, but not the kind with the springyness to them. No bumper plates or platform either. whatever. How many old school lifters got big and strong with old metal plates and railroad axles?
Sick 1000 low squat.. they, too are hard for me, because I just don't feel like I set them up right, and that my lower back is compromised. Perhaps I should ease into them.
Over head squats are one of my new faves... still dont do much weight, about 95 lbs, but I don't use "real" oly barbells like Youk or Eleiko. We have the standard weightroom "olympic" style weights, but not the kind with the springyness to them. No bumper plates or platform either. whatever. How many old school lifters got big and strong with old metal plates and railroad axles?
the gym I train at during the week has the shittiest of the shit oylmpic bars (no york, no elieko, nothing fancy. they are like $100 bars) and no bumper plates. I don't give a shit either. If it hits the floor it hits the floor.
Same here. How's everything going buddy?P-funk said:
P-funk said:
Same with my gym. I just say fuck it, buy some bumper plates or be prepared to hear some bangin'.
Good your doing goodP-funk said:
I'm up and down right now, but overall better than normal or I've been. Weather hasn't really changed down here yet, nice mornings and nights but the afternoon towards evening is still way too hot and humid. I HATE that LOL.
Or wait, maybe it's the worst...
9/25/05
snatch
60kgs/2x6
70/2x2
70/1x1
75/1x3
working on form still. need to get my pull in a straight line more. still working.
clean and jerk
60kg/1
70/2
80/1
90/1
95/1
105/1
110/1
115/0x2
Tried to break my old PB by 5kgs. Obviously I didn't. Basically, on the first attempt the lift was over before it started. I fucked myself in the head. I let the weight mentally beat me. I got it to just above my knee and didn't even attempt my second pull. So much going through my head that the pull was awful. I rounded my back and everything. The lift is so complex I don't know what it is. Like with a squat or a deadlift max I can psyche up for it and rip it (plus, you can get away with shit form on those lifts. even though I try not too when I max out.) On these lifts there are so many phases and parts to think about that I get nervous and overwhelmed. The second attempt I locked my spine in better and tried to get under the bar but I lost all my power during the pull when I bent my arms as the bar crossed my knee. I was scared that I wasn't going to make it so I tried to pull it with my arms. Bad move. That is what happens when you aren't confident in your form. If I was confident I would have not tried to pull with my arms and I would have just smoked the weight with my second pull....ugh, back to the drawing board. Maybe i was over abitious? Maybe I should have took a crack at 112kgs before 115. Oh well. Next week is another shot.
clean pull
115kg/2x4
left the weight on the bar and worked on pulling it. I am going to start doing my pulls heavier.
olympic front squat
225/2
154/1
255/1
265/1
275/1
225/2
coc#1/3x5
coc trainer/20x2
snatch
60kgs/2x6
70/2x2
70/1x1
75/1x3
working on form still. need to get my pull in a straight line more. still working.
clean and jerk
60kg/1
70/2
80/1
90/1
95/1
105/1
110/1
115/0x2
Tried to break my old PB by 5kgs. Obviously I didn't. Basically, on the first attempt the lift was over before it started. I fucked myself in the head. I let the weight mentally beat me. I got it to just above my knee and didn't even attempt my second pull. So much going through my head that the pull was awful. I rounded my back and everything. The lift is so complex I don't know what it is. Like with a squat or a deadlift max I can psyche up for it and rip it (plus, you can get away with shit form on those lifts. even though I try not too when I max out.) On these lifts there are so many phases and parts to think about that I get nervous and overwhelmed. The second attempt I locked my spine in better and tried to get under the bar but I lost all my power during the pull when I bent my arms as the bar crossed my knee. I was scared that I wasn't going to make it so I tried to pull it with my arms. Bad move. That is what happens when you aren't confident in your form. If I was confident I would have not tried to pull with my arms and I would have just smoked the weight with my second pull....ugh, back to the drawing board. Maybe i was over abitious? Maybe I should have took a crack at 112kgs before 115. Oh well. Next week is another shot.
clean pull
115kg/2x4
left the weight on the bar and worked on pulling it. I am going to start doing my pulls heavier.
olympic front squat
225/2
154/1
255/1
265/1
275/1
225/2
coc#1/3x5
coc trainer/20x2
The Monkey Man said:C'mon man... You are dwelling way to much...
Rest your mind & body energy...
Trust your split schedule...
Get to the gym, & go through your rituals...
No problemo.
why the frown? all though I am disappointed that I didn't hit 115kg I am happy that I am more confident with 110. I just have work on pulling 115kgs and it will happen. Before I hit 110 I worked on pulling it for 2 weeks adn then I smoked it.
Ever since I started concentrating on getting way down under the weight
I can only hit wuss-like numbers, this makes me sad
You just sounded a little bummed about not getting a PR...
" I fucked myself in the head"
Not the usual P-funk logic
I can only hit wuss-like numbers, this makes me sad
You just sounded a little bummed about not getting a PR...
" I fucked myself in the head"
Not the usual P-funk logic
The Monkey Man said:Ever since I started concentrating on getting way down under the weight
I can only hit wuss-like numbers, this makes me sad
You just sounded a little bummed about not getting a PR...
" I fucked myself in the head"
Not the usual P-funk logic
no, I am bummed. Don't you get bummed when you miss a lift? I ment that I fucked myself mentally before I did the lift be not being sure of myself and approahing the bar timmidly instead of like an animal.
Wus-like numbers? Learn to ride the bar down, not just drop underneath it.
I'm trying to do it rightP-funk said:
The Monkey Man said:I'm trying to do it right
I know...me too!! LOL, it is fucking hard as shit! Like everyone says..."this is a sport of patience. If you aren't patient you wont excel." I get tired of waiting but I know that the guys on top are on top because they have been at it a lot longer than I have.
9/27/05
dead hang snatch; snatch to balace (1:1 ratio. So I did one dead hang and then one snatch to balance imediatly following it. That is how i get 2 reps per set).
85lbs/2x5
105/2x3
110/2x2
clean (from floor); dead hang clean (1:1 ratio same as above)
110lbs/2x4
135/2x4
155/2x2
olympic back squat
first time really back squatting in 2 weeks.
225/1
275/1
295/1
315/5x2
standing BB press
135/5
155/5
175/3x2
chin ups
BW + 50/5x3
v-bar tricep pressdown
plate#12/12
plate#13/12
stack/10
coc#1/4x3
coc trainer/30x1
sit ups
bw/50x2
stretch
dead hang snatch; snatch to balace (1:1 ratio. So I did one dead hang and then one snatch to balance imediatly following it. That is how i get 2 reps per set).
85lbs/2x5
105/2x3
110/2x2
clean (from floor); dead hang clean (1:1 ratio same as above)
110lbs/2x4
135/2x4
155/2x2
olympic back squat
first time really back squatting in 2 weeks.
225/1
275/1
295/1
315/5x2
standing BB press
135/5
155/5
175/3x2
chin ups
BW + 50/5x3
v-bar tricep pressdown
plate#12/12
plate#13/12
stack/10
coc#1/4x3
coc trainer/30x1
sit ups
bw/50x2
stretch
9/29/05
workout felt weird today. Just not in the groove at all with my lifts. They feel so forgein to me but I can still maintain intensity because I am strong enough to move the weight. It doesn't feel heavy. Just out of the groove. Today I wasn't even paying attention when doing snatches and I wasn't using an olympic lifting bar so I had this thick squat bar that barely spun in my hands and it was tearing up my wrists and hard to get comfortable. Tough time really clearing my head before my lifts.
snatch
40kgs/warm ups
60kg/2x5
70/2x4
70/1x2
75/0x2
missed the 75kg lift because the friggin bar was to hard to fix overhead since it wasn't an olympic lifting bar. Form just felt out of it.
clean and jerk
60kg/1x2
70/1
80kg/1
90/1x3
95/1
100/1
105/1
Still, form felt off.
clean pulls
110/2x2
130kg/2x3
I am going to take off tomorrow and sat. and re-group on sunday. I need to take a few days off I think. My strength is fine. I just feel akward when doing the lifts right now.
workout felt weird today. Just not in the groove at all with my lifts. They feel so forgein to me but I can still maintain intensity because I am strong enough to move the weight. It doesn't feel heavy. Just out of the groove. Today I wasn't even paying attention when doing snatches and I wasn't using an olympic lifting bar so I had this thick squat bar that barely spun in my hands and it was tearing up my wrists and hard to get comfortable. Tough time really clearing my head before my lifts.
snatch
40kgs/warm ups
60kg/2x5
70/2x4
70/1x2
75/0x2
missed the 75kg lift because the friggin bar was to hard to fix overhead since it wasn't an olympic lifting bar. Form just felt out of it.
clean and jerk
60kg/1x2
70/1
80kg/1
90/1x3
95/1
100/1
105/1
Still, form felt off.
clean pulls
110/2x2
130kg/2x3
I am going to take off tomorrow and sat. and re-group on sunday. I need to take a few days off I think. My strength is fine. I just feel akward when doing the lifts right now.
9/30/05
can't keep me down.....I worked on my technique with light light weight (65lbs) today for about 30min. Just pulling and snatching and cleaning. etc.....
Now it is back to the cleveland indians game!! I need them to win and I need the yanks to sweep the red sox this weeked so the indians can get into the play offs!
can't keep me down.....I worked on my technique with light light weight (65lbs) today for about 30min. Just pulling and snatching and cleaning. etc.....
Now it is back to the cleveland indians game!! I need them to win and I need the yanks to sweep the red sox this weeked so the indians can get into the play offs!
Good Job on the rebound P -
pfunk, take the day off. It will end up doing more good than worrying about it.
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Hey P..... I have a Q. My deadlifts from the ground got up to about 450 for about 4 or 5 until I hurt my back using poor form (rounding of the back). I did racks today at 365 for 6, from the rack because I am so tall, I feel less rounded at the bottom, but at the same time it felt very akward and I felt much weaker. Do you feel racks are equal to regular from the ground deads for back?
camarosuper6 said:
I feel like from the rack they place more emphasis on your back since you don't have that extra pre-stretch of the hamstrings in the bottom position to get you moving. You should be able to lock out more weight from the rack then you can from the floor (at least that is the case for most people).
You probably feel akward and weaker becaus (a) you are coming back from injury and (b) you are working on keeping your back flatter and your erctors are not used to making an isometric contraction for so long through out the ROM. I know how you feel though. For example, one of my biggest problems with my snatches is that I have trouble getting a good starting position because when I get down to grab the bar from the floor if I put my arms out wide in a snatch grip I round my back a little bit because I am so so tight back there! The clean I don't have that problem because the grip is narrower. So, I have to work on that start position and holding it and man, my back gets friggin' fried!! It is sore, tired, and akward as hell and I am not as strong or effecient as I am with the slightly rounded back because it feels more comfortable to me with my arms out that wide. However, once I get that flexablitliy to stay flatter I will have more power since position creastes power. Just keep at it man. You will get it. You are a strong dude and your strength will come through quickly.
Mudge- what are dimel deadlifts?
