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Paleo-style eating: first impressions

I have another observation. This one needs to be handled carefully, as it's a subject that lends itself to inappropriate humor. So, we're talking about...dropping the kids off at the pool...taking the Browns to the Super Bowl...dropping a deuce...pinching off a loaf...losing some weight, and lastly..."I'm a girl, I don't poop!"

Okay...are we past that now? Can we do the serious stuff?

Alrighty then.

I've found that pooping on a paleo diet isn't like it was before. I sit, I make a deposit, I wipe once -- barely anything on the tissue, I wipe again -- completely clean, and then I finish up with a good hand-cleaning. And the poop is one solid log. I now spend just a bit more time on the pot than I do at the urinal.

Before I had to sit for a few minutes up to ten or fifteen. It came out in pieces and often with a lot of liquidity. And I had to use a quarter of a roll of toilet paper.

I've sometimes wondered about that. Why was that other primates, and many other mammals, defecate neat and discrete droppings, but humans didn't? Yes, I sometimes ponder questions like that, it's who I am. :shrug: I think I now know the answer. When we eat what were supposed to be eating, we poop like most other mammals.

Just more FYI (and TMI) for you fine people.

Peace, I'm out.
 
DOMS said:
I have another observation. This one needs to be handled carefully, as it's a subject that lends itself to inappropriate humor. So, we're talking about...dropping the kids off at the pool...taking the Browns to the Super Bowl...dropping a deuce...pinching off a loaf...losing some weight, and lastly..."I'm a girl, I don't poop!"

Okay...are we past that now? Can we do the serious stuff?

Alrighty then.

I've found that pooping on a paleo diet isn't like it was before. I sit, I make a deposit, I wipe once -- barely anything on the tissue, I wipe again -- completely clean, and then I finish up with a good hand-cleaning. And the poop is one solid log. I now spend just a bit more time on the pot than I do at the urinal.

Before I had to sit for a few minutes up to ten or fifteen. It came out in pieces and often with a lot of liquidity. And I had to use a quarter of a roll of toilet paper.

I've sometimes wondered about that. Why was that other primates, and many other mammals, defecate neat and discrete droppings, but humans didn't? Yes, I sometimes ponder questions like that, it's who I am. :shrug: I think I now know the answer. When we eat what were supposed to be eating, we poop like most other mammals.

Just more FYI (and TMI) for you fine people.

Peace, I'm out.
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With high fats (60-65% cals) - it generally just slides out.

The major thing for me is zero farting... I still take a digestive enzyme and probiotics though, even though I eat a shit tonnes of fermented food. Probably 2lbs of sauerkraut lol... Love the stuff!
 
DOMS said:
I have another observation. This one needs to be handled carefully, as it's a subject that lends itself to inappropriate humor. So, we're talking about...dropping the kids off at the pool...taking the Browns to the Super Bowl...dropping a deuce...pinching off a loaf...losing some weight, and lastly..."I'm a girl, I don't poop!"

Okay...are we past that now? Can we do the serious stuff?


Alrighty then.

I've found that pooping on a paleo diet isn't like it was before. I sit, I make a deposit, I wipe once -- barely anything on the tissue, I wipe again -- completely clean, and then I finish up with a good hand-cleaning. And the poop is one solid log. I now spend just a bit more time on the pot than I do at the urinal.

Before I had to sit for a few minutes up to ten or fifteen. It came out in pieces and often with a lot of liquidity. And I had to use a quarter of a roll of toilet paper.

I've sometimes wondered about that. Why was that other primates, and many other mammals, defecate neat and discrete droppings, but humans didn't? Yes, I sometimes ponder questions like that, it's who I am. :shrug: I think I now know the answer. When we eat what were supposed to be eating, we poop like most other mammals.

Just more FYI (and TMI) for you fine people.

Peace, I'm out.
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Animals in captivity and not fed their natural diet often have major GI issues. The Paleo Manifesto by John Durant discusses this. As for why you likely experienced liquid shit...diarrhea is essentially an increase in intestinal permeability to flush bad guys out of the colon. For some reason, humans release the protein zonulin when gluten hits the intestinal wall. All humans experience it and no other primate releases zonulin. Over time, your microbiome gets out of whack and it takes longer to fix this intestinal permeability. The end result...the squirts.
 
theCaptn' said:
With high fats (60-65% cals) - it generally just slides out.

The major thing for me is zero farting... I still take a digestive enzyme and probiotics though, even though I eat a shit tonnes of fermented food. Probably 2lbs of sauerkraut lol... Love the stuff!
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Now that you mention it...yeah, I almost never fart anymore.

I'm telling you, nearly every time I think about it, I find something else that the paleo-diet has made better for me.
 
theCaptn' said:
I still take a digestive enzyme and probiotics though, even though I eat a shit tonnes of fermented food.
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I agree with the probiotics and digestive enzymes. I take min. 2000mg/day probiotics not to mention the occasional yogurt (not man yogurt).

I only fart in church and elevators.
OK, just elevators, I don't go to church.
 
Dale Mabry said:
Animals in captivity and not fed their natural diet often have major GI issues. The Paleo Manifesto by John Durant discusses this. As for why you likely experienced liquid shit...diarrhea is essentially an increase in intestinal permeability to flush bad guys out of the colon. For some reason, humans release the protein zonulin when gluten hits the intestinal wall. All humans experience it and no other primate releases zonulin. Over time, your microbiome gets out of whack and it takes longer to fix this intestinal permeability. The end result...the squirts.
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It just so happens that I've just read about the lives of cows in high density feed lots in The Omnivore's Dilemma. That is some horrible shit.
 
There are times -- very fleeting times -- where I think maybe I'd be better off being ignorant or just outright stupid.

I'd probably be happier, anyway.
 
DOMS said:
I'd probably be happier, anyway.
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At least until you lost your leg to diuhbeetus...Or got cancer...or lost the function of the left side of your body from a stroke. :)
 
So I've just finished my seventh week on paleo (Primal Blueprint) and...

I've lost a net of 11 pounds. I've lost 14 pounds of fat each week, but I've also gain 3 pounds of muscle. It's been a crazy, phenomenal seven weeks.

I haven't shed weight like this since I was in my teens. It feels good in so many ways.
 
Great result doms - I can't remember, are you geared?
 
Damn Doms, that is amazing!! Looks like I am for sure gonna have to give Paleo a strict run.
 
Anabolic5150 said:
Damn Doms, that is amazing!! Looks like I am for sure gonna have to give Paleo a strict run.
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I'm not even strict. I'm, on most days, 85% to 95%. On rare days I'm as low as 65%. But those days are becoming so much rarer. When I do cheat, I often feel ill and my poop is less than perfectly solid.

I have never seen gains like this before. I'll reiterate: I do not count calories or macros. I just eat whenever the mood strikes me. Some days, I don't eat for up to 12 hours or more. Other days, I'll eat every few. My body really does talk to me like it never has before. Or, more likely, it's always talked to me but the overdose of carbs in the form of grains and sugar prevented me from hearing it. Those days are gone. Now it talks and I listen.
 
Oh, and just for a fuller picture, I'm doing the HSS-100 routine. My first full-on workout partner is a hyperactive 23 year-old. Neither one of us give the other guy a break in the gym. We've made amazing gains in the last four months. That routine is a crap-ton of fun. I just finished Phase 1 on Saturday. Monday is going to be a play day at the gym (going for PRs). I have to go to San Fran for a work for two weeks, but when I come back, it's Phase 2.
 
Dammit...

I didn't mean 14 pounds per week, I meant total over 7 weeks, or 2 pounds per week. Sorry about that.
 
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DOMS said:
That's a neg, Captn. I'm o'natural.
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That's even more impressive!

After a while you'll really notice when you eat some shitty food. Last night I ate these burgers at a friends place, pattys were processed and full of preservatives - felt ill for hours.
 
My wife and I just started Paleo today. I was hungry all day trying to figure out what I could or should eat. I'm really going to miss my carbs. We had oven roasted turkey for dinner and I sure missed the mashed potatoes and gravy, stuffing and dinner rolls. I sure hope I don't feel this hungry all the time.
 
DOMS said:
I'm not even strict. I'm, on most days, 85% to 95%. On rare days I'm as low as 65%. But those days are becoming so much rarer. When I do cheat, I often feel ill and my poop is less than perfectly solid.

I have never seen gains like this before. I'll reiterate: I do not count calories or macros. I just eat whenever the mood strikes me. Some days, I don't eat for up to 12 hours or more. Other days, I'll eat every few. My body really does talk to me like it never has before. Or, more likely, it's always talked to me but the overdose of carbs in the form of grains and sugar prevented me from hearing it. Those days are gone. Now it talks and I listen.
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Thanks for clearing that up DOMS, I need to clean up my eating a lot. Sitting at a soft 290 pounds, goal is 220. Paleo just makes sense after reading Primal Blueprint, I will start in the morning and so will my wife. Be ok if I hit you up with questions?
 
theCaptn' said:
That's even more impressive!

After a while you'll really notice when you eat some shitty food. Last night I ate these burgers at a friends place, pattys were processed and full of preservatives - felt ill for hours.
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Thanks, man.

I've never been spot-on enough on my diet to want to use gear. That may be changing though.

I'm still okay with main-stream beef, but I just can't do stuff like pizza anymore. Not a bit.
 
1HungLo said:
My wife and I just started Paleo today. I was hungry all day trying to figure out what I could or should eat. I'm really going to miss my carbs. We had oven roasted turkey for dinner and I sure missed the mashed potatoes and gravy, stuffing and dinner rolls. I sure hope I don't feel this hungry all the time.
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Like I said above, I've only been hungry once since I started paleo, but that was after a 20 hour fast. You just need to learn new meals and snacks. You can't reach for chips or rice like you used to. One of my new favorite foods is chicken with avocado. Both just diced and eaten together.

There are plenty of recipes online (including YouTube). Mark Sisson has some great books over at Amazon. The sauce book kicks ass. So much good stuff in there.

Let me know if you have any more questions.
 
Anabolic5150 said:
Thanks for clearing that up DOMS, I need to clean up my eating a lot. Sitting at a soft 290 pounds, goal is 220. Paleo just makes sense after reading Primal Blueprint, I will start in the morning and so will my wife. Be ok if I hit you up with questions?
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Most certainly! I'm not an expert of anything, I'm just putting what I know out there. If that 70 pound loss involves a high level of fat, then get ready for the fat to just melt off. I'm just going from 214 to down around 195 and that's what happened to me.
 
DOMS said:
Most certainly! I'm not an expert of anything, I'm just putting what I know out there. If that 70 pound loss involves a high level of fat, then get ready for the fat to just melt off. I'm just going from 214 to down around 195 and that's what happened to me.
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I'm ready to start melting it! Thanks so much!!
 
Bizarre...

I weighed myself on Friday and was 203, but I weighed myself this morning and came in at 201. I'm guessing that it has to be water loss. But I've eaten clean and drank plenty of water throughout the weekend. And there was no booze over the weekend.

I'll just have to wait and weigh again mid-week.
 
1HungLo said:
My wife and I just started Paleo today. I was hungry all day trying to figure out what I could or should eat. I'm really going to miss my carbs. We had oven roasted turkey for dinner and I sure missed the mashed potatoes and gravy, stuffing and dinner rolls. I sure hope I don't feel this hungry all the time.
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You shouldn't avoid carbs, especially if you are training in the glycolytic energy pathway. Potatoes, and tubers are fine, as is fruit,
 
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