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People suffering from IBS, constipation, GI Distress this may be God Sent
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Jodi -- Did you mean Guggle or did you have it right the first time? I've never heard of Guggel is why I'm asking.
Thanks hon
Thanks hon
For those ladies pregnant or looking to get pregnant, be very careful when taking herbs... not all herbs are good for the fetus!!!
Ask your doc before taking anything not on the list of "approved" medicines.
Ask your doc before taking anything not on the list of "approved" medicines.
I have been taking regular old alca seltzer for IBS type bloating. The sodium bicarbonate helps relieve some of the pressure. I've also read about a product called acidophilus that people are taking to help relieve IBS symptons. I will probably purchase some this week.
Acidophilus is a probiotic bacteria. By producing organic compounds, this type of bacteria promotes good digestion and increases immune functions by increasing the acidity in the intestine thus increasing resistance to infection.
Acidophilus commonly used for: Poor digestion, prevent bacterial overgrowth and rebalance bacteria levels in the intestines.
I found out about it here:
http://www.ibsgroup.org/cgi-local/ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=27;t=001605;p=0
Acidophilus is a probiotic bacteria. By producing organic compounds, this type of bacteria promotes good digestion and increases immune functions by increasing the acidity in the intestine thus increasing resistance to infection.
Acidophilus commonly used for: Poor digestion, prevent bacterial overgrowth and rebalance bacteria levels in the intestines.
I found out about it here:
http://www.ibsgroup.org/cgi-local/ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=27;t=001605;p=0
I used to be able to take the OTC stuff but at some point it just isn't enough... that's when you have to see a GI doc and get the perscription stuff 
Butterfly did you ever read that site www.helpforibs.com
It's very helpful/informative and can help you learn how to control your symptoms at least somewhat
It's very helpful/informative and can help you learn how to control your symptoms at least somewhat
Oh yeah, I remember looking through that site, but I must have got distracted and forgot about it.
It's funny, since I've been pregnant I haven't had the same old symptoms. Maybe cause I eat a lot more
It's funny, since I've been pregnant I haven't had the same old symptoms. Maybe cause I eat a lot more
Good to hear hon, besides pregnancy has MANY effects on the body.. Are you less stressed now as well?
I think so. Only thing I really worry about is what to do with the baby when it comes time for me to go back to work. If we can get enough of the bills paid off by that time then I might not have to go back which would be what I'd prefer.
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Wheww...I was thinking you were talking about GuggulBolic. I use to take that, until a couple months before my surgery. Scared me silly cause I was hoping to use it again when my Endo clears up......
Thanks hon
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Ps: I heard Nexium helps with IBS. The purple pill
Thanks hon
Babs
Ps: I heard Nexium helps with IBS. The purple pill
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Then that makes sense. There were times I'd have to stop training because my stomach would knot up, twist and suddenly bloat. I thought it was because of my Hyatal (however you spell it) hernia or Endometriosis.
Hmmm....do you know why Guggul does that?
Hmmm....do you know why Guggul does that?
Guggul (Commiphora mukul)
Be aware that the U.S. Food and Drug Administration does not strictly regulate herbs and dietary supplements. There is no guarantee of strength, purity or safety of products containing or claiming to contain guggul. Decisions to use herbs or supplements should be carefully considered. Individuals using prescription drugs should discuss taking herbs or supplements with their pharmacist or health care provider before starting.
Scientists have studied guggul for the following health problems:
High cholesterol
Guggul (gum guggul) is a resin produced by the mukul mirth tree. Guggulipid is extracted from guggul and contains chemicals called "plant sterols" (guggulsterones E and Z), which are believed to be active in the human body. Multiple studies published before 2003 suggested that guggul and guggulipid may lower cholesterol levels in people with high cholesterol. However, most of these trials were not well designed. More recent, well-designed research reports no improvements in cholesterol levels. In fact, small increases in "bad cholesterol" (low-density lipoprotein) are suggested. It is not clear why the results of different studies do not agree with each other. One possible explanation is that the earlier positive studies were done in India, and the later negative research is from the United States. There may be differences in these regions, such as dietary habits, that would cause different results. At this time, because of these differences in results, it remains unclear if guggul is helpful in people with high cholesterol levels or heart disease.
Acne
Although there are several studies in this area, it is not clear what effects guggul has on acne. Studies have been small, with flaws in their designs.
Obesity
Guggul has been proposed as a possible therapy for weight reduction. Preliminary studies suggest that guggul may be associated with a small loss in weight or a reduction in tissue folds. However, studies have been small, and it is not clear whether guggul offers any benefits over diet and exercise in the treatment of obesity.
Arthritis
Guggul has been proposed as a possible arthritis therapy. Animal studies suggest that guggul may have anti-inflammatory properties. Studies in humans have been small and have had flaws in their designs. However, there is early evidence that some patients may experience less joint stiffness in the morning, less fatigue and improved grip strength and may be able to write, dress and walk easier while taking guggul preparations.
Unproven Uses
Guggul has been suggested for many other uses, based on tradition or on scientific theories. However, these uses have not been thoroughly studied in humans, and there is limited scientific evidence about safety or effectiveness. Some of these suggested uses are for conditions that are potentially very serious and even life-threatening. You should consult a health care provider before taking guggul for any unproven use.
Asthma
Bleeding
Cold symptoms
Colitis
Diabetes
Gingivitis
Hemorrhoids
Leprosy
Menstrual disorders Mouth infections
Nerve pain
Pain
Psoriasis
Sore throat
Sores
Tumors
Vaginal discharge
Wounds
Potential Dangers
Allergies
Allergic rash may occur with the use of guggulipid by mouth, particularly at high doses. People with known allergies to guggul should avoid guggul, guggulipid, gum guggulu and guggulsterones. Other signs of allergy may include itching and shortness of breath.
Side Effects
Some people may experience stomach discomfort, including diarrhea, nausea, vomiting, hiccup or burping. These symptoms may improve with the use of antacids. Allergic rash may occur at higher doses. Other side effects may include restlessness or apprehension. In theory, guggul may cause weight loss, may interfere with the ability to become pregnant or may alter thyroid function. If you have thyroid disease and are considering taking guggul, you should discuss this with your health care provider.
Pregnancy And Breast-Feeding
Guggul cannot be recommended during pregnancy or breast-feeding because of a lack of information.
Interactions
Interactions with drugs, supplements and other herbs have not been thoroughly studied. The interactions listed below have been reported in scientific publications. If you are taking prescription drugs, speak with your health care provider or pharmacist before using herbs or dietary supplements.
Interactions With Drugs
Guggul may reduce the effectiveness of some blood pressure drugs, such as propranolol (Inderal) and diltiazem (Cardizem). It is not clear what effects guggulipid has on the effectiveness of cholesterol-lowering drugs. In theory, guggulipid may increase the activity of the thyroid. As a result, it should be used carefully with drugs taken for thyroid disease, such as levothyroxine (Synthroid).
Interactions With Herbs And Dietary Supplements
It is not clear what effects guggulipid has on herbs that lower cholesterol levels, such as garlic (Allium sativum). In theory, guggul may alter the activity of the thyroid gland and should be used carefully with herbs that can affect thyroid function, such as bladderwrack (Fucus vesiculosus).
Dosing
The doses listed below are based on scientific research, publications or traditional use. Because most herbs and supplements have not been thoroughly studied or monitored, safety and effectiveness may not be proven. Brands may be made differently, with variable ingredients even within the same brand. Combination products often contain small amounts of each ingredient and may not be effective. Appropriate dosing should be discussed with a health care provider before starting therapy; always read the recommendations on a product's label. The dosing for unproven uses should be approached cautiously, because scientific information is limited in these areas.
There are no standard or well-studied doses of guggul, and many different doses are used traditionally. Safety of use beyond four months has not been studied. Guggulipid preparations are often standardized to contain 2.5 percent to 5 percent guggulsterones.
Adults (Aged 18 Or Older)
For high cholesterol, a dose of 500 to 1,000 milligrams of guggulipid (standardized to 2.5 percent guggulsterones) taken by mouth three times per day has been studied. A dose of 25 milligrams of guggulsterone taken by mouth three times daily or 50 milligrams taken by mouth twice daily has also been used. For severe nodular and cystic acne, a dose equivalent to 25 milligrams of guggulsterone taken by mouth daily has been used.
Children (Younger Than 18)
There are not enough scientific data to recommend guggul for use in children, and guggul is not recommended because of potential side effects.
Summary
Guggul and related substances have been used medicinally for more than 2,000 years, particularly in India. The effects of guggulipid in patients with high cholesterol are not clear, with some studies finding cholesterol-lowering effects, and other research suggesting no benefits. At this time, there is not enough scientific evidence to support the use of guggul for any medical condition. Guggul may cause stomach discomfort or allergic rash. It should be avoided in pregnant or breast-feeding women and in children. Safety of use beyond four months has not been studied. Consult your health care provider immediately if you have any side effects.
The information in this monograph was prepared by the professional staff at Natural Standard, based on thorough systematic review of scientific evidence. The material was reviewed by the Faculty of the Harvard Medical School with final editing approved by Natural Standard.
Resources
Natural Standard: An organization that produces scientifically based reviews of complementary and alternative medicine (CAM) topics
National Center for Complementary and Alternative Medicine (NCCAM): A division of the U.S. Department of Health & Human Services dedicated to research
Selected Scientific Studies: Guggul
Natural Standard reviewed more than 125 articles to prepare the professional monograph from which this version was created.
Some of the more recent English-language studies are listed below:
Antonio J, Colker CM, Torina GC, et al. Effects of a standardized guggulsterone phosphate supplement on body composition in overweight adults: a pilot study. Curr Ther Res 1999;60:220-227.
Bhatt AD, Dalal DG, Shah SJ, et al. Conceptual and methodologic challenges of assessing the short-term efficacy of guggulu in obesity: data emergent from a naturalistic clinical trial. J Postgrad Med 1995;41(1):5-7.
Das Gupta RD. Guggulipid: pro-lipaemic effect. J Assoc Physicians India 1990;38(8):598.
Das Gupta R. Guggulipid: pro-lipaemic effect. J Assoc Physicians India 1990;38(12):346.
Gaur SP, Garg RK, Kar AM, et al. Gugulipid, a new hypolipidaemic agent, in patients of acute ischaemic stroke: effect on clinical outcome, platelet function and serum lipids. Asia Pacif J Pharm 1997;12:65-69.
Ghorai M, Mandal SC, Pal M, et al. A comparative study on hypocholesterolaemic effect of allicin, whole germinated seeds of bengal gram and guggulipid of gum gugglu. Phytother Res 2000;14(3):200-202.
Singh BB, Mishra L, Aquilina N, et al. Usefulness of guggul (Commiphora mukul) for osteoarthritis of the knee: an experimental case study. Altern Ther Health Med 2001;7(2):120, 112-114.
Singh RB, Niaz MA, Ghosh S. Hypolipidemic and antioxidant effects of Commiphora mukul as an adjunct to dietary therapy in patients with hypercholesterolemia. Cardiovasc Drugs Ther 1994;8(4):659-664.
Singh RP, Singh R, Ram P, et al. Use of Pushkar-Guggul, an indigenous antiischemic combination, in the management of ischemic heart disease. Int J Pharm 1993;31(2):147-160.
Szapary PO, Wolfe ML, Bloedon LT, et al. Guggulipid for the treatment of hypercholesterolemia: a randomized controlled trial. JAMA 2003;290(6):765-772.
http://www.intelihealth.com/IH/ihtIH/WSIHW000/8513/31402/348970.html?d=dmtContent
Be aware that the U.S. Food and Drug Administration does not strictly regulate herbs and dietary supplements. There is no guarantee of strength, purity or safety of products containing or claiming to contain guggul. Decisions to use herbs or supplements should be carefully considered. Individuals using prescription drugs should discuss taking herbs or supplements with their pharmacist or health care provider before starting.
Scientists have studied guggul for the following health problems:
High cholesterol
Guggul (gum guggul) is a resin produced by the mukul mirth tree. Guggulipid is extracted from guggul and contains chemicals called "plant sterols" (guggulsterones E and Z), which are believed to be active in the human body. Multiple studies published before 2003 suggested that guggul and guggulipid may lower cholesterol levels in people with high cholesterol. However, most of these trials were not well designed. More recent, well-designed research reports no improvements in cholesterol levels. In fact, small increases in "bad cholesterol" (low-density lipoprotein) are suggested. It is not clear why the results of different studies do not agree with each other. One possible explanation is that the earlier positive studies were done in India, and the later negative research is from the United States. There may be differences in these regions, such as dietary habits, that would cause different results. At this time, because of these differences in results, it remains unclear if guggul is helpful in people with high cholesterol levels or heart disease.
Acne
Although there are several studies in this area, it is not clear what effects guggul has on acne. Studies have been small, with flaws in their designs.
Obesity
Guggul has been proposed as a possible therapy for weight reduction. Preliminary studies suggest that guggul may be associated with a small loss in weight or a reduction in tissue folds. However, studies have been small, and it is not clear whether guggul offers any benefits over diet and exercise in the treatment of obesity.
Arthritis
Guggul has been proposed as a possible arthritis therapy. Animal studies suggest that guggul may have anti-inflammatory properties. Studies in humans have been small and have had flaws in their designs. However, there is early evidence that some patients may experience less joint stiffness in the morning, less fatigue and improved grip strength and may be able to write, dress and walk easier while taking guggul preparations.
Unproven Uses
Guggul has been suggested for many other uses, based on tradition or on scientific theories. However, these uses have not been thoroughly studied in humans, and there is limited scientific evidence about safety or effectiveness. Some of these suggested uses are for conditions that are potentially very serious and even life-threatening. You should consult a health care provider before taking guggul for any unproven use.
Asthma
Bleeding
Cold symptoms
Colitis
Diabetes
Gingivitis
Hemorrhoids
Leprosy
Menstrual disorders Mouth infections
Nerve pain
Pain
Psoriasis
Sore throat
Sores
Tumors
Vaginal discharge
Wounds
Potential Dangers
Allergies
Allergic rash may occur with the use of guggulipid by mouth, particularly at high doses. People with known allergies to guggul should avoid guggul, guggulipid, gum guggulu and guggulsterones. Other signs of allergy may include itching and shortness of breath.
Side Effects
Some people may experience stomach discomfort, including diarrhea, nausea, vomiting, hiccup or burping. These symptoms may improve with the use of antacids. Allergic rash may occur at higher doses. Other side effects may include restlessness or apprehension. In theory, guggul may cause weight loss, may interfere with the ability to become pregnant or may alter thyroid function. If you have thyroid disease and are considering taking guggul, you should discuss this with your health care provider.
Pregnancy And Breast-Feeding
Guggul cannot be recommended during pregnancy or breast-feeding because of a lack of information.
Interactions
Interactions with drugs, supplements and other herbs have not been thoroughly studied. The interactions listed below have been reported in scientific publications. If you are taking prescription drugs, speak with your health care provider or pharmacist before using herbs or dietary supplements.
Interactions With Drugs
Guggul may reduce the effectiveness of some blood pressure drugs, such as propranolol (Inderal) and diltiazem (Cardizem). It is not clear what effects guggulipid has on the effectiveness of cholesterol-lowering drugs. In theory, guggulipid may increase the activity of the thyroid. As a result, it should be used carefully with drugs taken for thyroid disease, such as levothyroxine (Synthroid).
Interactions With Herbs And Dietary Supplements
It is not clear what effects guggulipid has on herbs that lower cholesterol levels, such as garlic (Allium sativum). In theory, guggul may alter the activity of the thyroid gland and should be used carefully with herbs that can affect thyroid function, such as bladderwrack (Fucus vesiculosus).
Dosing
The doses listed below are based on scientific research, publications or traditional use. Because most herbs and supplements have not been thoroughly studied or monitored, safety and effectiveness may not be proven. Brands may be made differently, with variable ingredients even within the same brand. Combination products often contain small amounts of each ingredient and may not be effective. Appropriate dosing should be discussed with a health care provider before starting therapy; always read the recommendations on a product's label. The dosing for unproven uses should be approached cautiously, because scientific information is limited in these areas.
There are no standard or well-studied doses of guggul, and many different doses are used traditionally. Safety of use beyond four months has not been studied. Guggulipid preparations are often standardized to contain 2.5 percent to 5 percent guggulsterones.
Adults (Aged 18 Or Older)
For high cholesterol, a dose of 500 to 1,000 milligrams of guggulipid (standardized to 2.5 percent guggulsterones) taken by mouth three times per day has been studied. A dose of 25 milligrams of guggulsterone taken by mouth three times daily or 50 milligrams taken by mouth twice daily has also been used. For severe nodular and cystic acne, a dose equivalent to 25 milligrams of guggulsterone taken by mouth daily has been used.
Children (Younger Than 18)
There are not enough scientific data to recommend guggul for use in children, and guggul is not recommended because of potential side effects.
Summary
Guggul and related substances have been used medicinally for more than 2,000 years, particularly in India. The effects of guggulipid in patients with high cholesterol are not clear, with some studies finding cholesterol-lowering effects, and other research suggesting no benefits. At this time, there is not enough scientific evidence to support the use of guggul for any medical condition. Guggul may cause stomach discomfort or allergic rash. It should be avoided in pregnant or breast-feeding women and in children. Safety of use beyond four months has not been studied. Consult your health care provider immediately if you have any side effects.
The information in this monograph was prepared by the professional staff at Natural Standard, based on thorough systematic review of scientific evidence. The material was reviewed by the Faculty of the Harvard Medical School with final editing approved by Natural Standard.
Resources
Natural Standard: An organization that produces scientifically based reviews of complementary and alternative medicine (CAM) topics
National Center for Complementary and Alternative Medicine (NCCAM): A division of the U.S. Department of Health & Human Services dedicated to research
Selected Scientific Studies: Guggul
Natural Standard reviewed more than 125 articles to prepare the professional monograph from which this version was created.
Some of the more recent English-language studies are listed below:
Antonio J, Colker CM, Torina GC, et al. Effects of a standardized guggulsterone phosphate supplement on body composition in overweight adults: a pilot study. Curr Ther Res 1999;60:220-227.
Bhatt AD, Dalal DG, Shah SJ, et al. Conceptual and methodologic challenges of assessing the short-term efficacy of guggulu in obesity: data emergent from a naturalistic clinical trial. J Postgrad Med 1995;41(1):5-7.
Das Gupta RD. Guggulipid: pro-lipaemic effect. J Assoc Physicians India 1990;38(8):598.
Das Gupta R. Guggulipid: pro-lipaemic effect. J Assoc Physicians India 1990;38(12):346.
Gaur SP, Garg RK, Kar AM, et al. Gugulipid, a new hypolipidaemic agent, in patients of acute ischaemic stroke: effect on clinical outcome, platelet function and serum lipids. Asia Pacif J Pharm 1997;12:65-69.
Ghorai M, Mandal SC, Pal M, et al. A comparative study on hypocholesterolaemic effect of allicin, whole germinated seeds of bengal gram and guggulipid of gum gugglu. Phytother Res 2000;14(3):200-202.
Singh BB, Mishra L, Aquilina N, et al. Usefulness of guggul (Commiphora mukul) for osteoarthritis of the knee: an experimental case study. Altern Ther Health Med 2001;7(2):120, 112-114.
Singh RB, Niaz MA, Ghosh S. Hypolipidemic and antioxidant effects of Commiphora mukul as an adjunct to dietary therapy in patients with hypercholesterolemia. Cardiovasc Drugs Ther 1994;8(4):659-664.
Singh RP, Singh R, Ram P, et al. Use of Pushkar-Guggul, an indigenous antiischemic combination, in the management of ischemic heart disease. Int J Pharm 1993;31(2):147-160.
Szapary PO, Wolfe ML, Bloedon LT, et al. Guggulipid for the treatment of hypercholesterolemia: a randomized controlled trial. JAMA 2003;290(6):765-772.
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I ordered some, I will let you all know how it goes.
