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Pepper's (Leptigen) Rebirth
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Diet has been pretty consistant and am back in the gym lifting after a week off. I did have a run in with a jar of natural PB, so my cals were higher than normal the last few days.
Weighed in at 289 this morning.
Order of Sesathin and Rebirth arrived today, so I am set for another couple of months.
I have been meaning to take updated photo and measurments but seem to have a meeting every single night. The PLAN is to do these things tonight.
Weighed in at 289 this morning.
Order of Sesathin and Rebirth arrived today, so I am set for another couple of months.
I have been meaning to take updated photo and measurments but seem to have a meeting every single night. The PLAN is to do these things tonight.
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Weight 5/21: 288.8
Measurements attached.
I am not sure what to make of them.
The right bicep measurement should be ignored. I thought I had done it flexed until I noticed the change, so I did the left unflexed but forgot to go back to the right.
Measurements attached.
I am not sure what to make of them.
The right bicep measurement should be ignored. I thought I had done it flexed until I noticed the change, so I did the left unflexed but forgot to go back to the right.
If strength levels have not dropped off the chart, it looks like you have dropped in total bodyfat nicely.
I say this because while the stomach difference is not terrific the chest and neck loss is indicative of a far amount of bodyfat loss.
What is the weight difference?
I say this because while the stomach difference is not terrific the chest and neck loss is indicative of a far amount of bodyfat loss.
What is the weight difference?
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Weight on 4/19: 294.2
Weight on 5/21: 288.8
Down 5.4 lbs, which I guess is nothing to sneeze at as it is just over a lbs a week and that is my target. My software provides a chart of my current weight vs my "target" weight and the current weight line stays slightly below the target weight.
Weight on 5/21: 288.8
Down 5.4 lbs, which I guess is nothing to sneeze at as it is just over a lbs a week and that is my target. My software provides a chart of my current weight vs my "target" weight and the current weight line stays slightly below the target weight.
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My bench press is down since I started the diet, but has not decreased since I started this test. To be honest, that "problem" is more of a shoulder problem than anything else.
I set a personal high on leg press just this Tuesday.
I set a personal high on leg press just this Tuesday.
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I agree.
Liposuction or amputation are about the only things out there that will give me the weightloss results I want. I am a touch impatient about this. I have been at it over a year...but I keep telling myself, I was "at it" getting fat for much longer than that.
I am happy with this product...I order three more jugs of it as well as three bottles of sesathin.
Liposuction or amputation are about the only things out there that will give me the weightloss results I want. I am a touch impatient about this. I have been at it over a year...but I keep telling myself, I was "at it" getting fat for much longer than that.
I am happy with this product...I order three more jugs of it as well as three bottles of sesathin.
haha, ive used that same attitude when i get impatient.
Nice work on the weight loss though... especially with you setting a new PR in the gym!
Has your wife started using the sesathin yet? Hows she like it?
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Hey TP...what would be your thoughts on me starting a 1-AD cycle?
Completely up to you...I would not want to do anything that took away from the test.
My thought is that it would make the scales less relevant to judging progress and would make BF% much more important.
Completely up to you...I would not want to do anything that took away from the test.
My thought is that it would make the scales less relevant to judging progress and would make BF% much more important.
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OK, I have not updated in a while and here's why. I asked TP if it would be OK for me to start a cycle of 1-AD. The truth is that I was really hoping he'd agree to it b/c I had already started. So, I have been on my cycle of 1-AD along with testing the Rebirth. Sorry about that but I had what I considered a very depressing moment in the gym on chest day. I used to routinely rep out 20x at 225 and that day I did 12. I was just depressed about it. So, decided it was time to emphasize my weight lifting if that cost me a little on the diet. However, fat loss was still a priority, just not the number one priority.
What is significant about this is that I responded to 1-ad like I have never responded to any supplement EVER. This will be my third 1-ad cycle with my last being in November of 2003. My strength immediate returned. I hit 20 reps (barely) on the 225, my legs are just HUGE. My arms are very, very tight. I have never seen anything like it.
I know this is not a 1-ad test, but I report it as part of the Rebirth test b/c I think it is worth noting how drastically different my response to 1-ad was while taking Rebirth. Is there a connection? I don't know. I don't understand the chemistry well enough to say. However, I will say this, I sure think there is a connection.
My weight shot right back up to 296 during the first week on 1-ad but has since return to the 290 - 292 range. I am definatley tighter and stronger.
I realize that I "cheated" somewhat by starting 1-ad w/o getting the approval. I apologize for that.
TP, what are your thoughts on a possible connection between the Rebirth and the unexpected effectiveness of prohormones.
What is significant about this is that I responded to 1-ad like I have never responded to any supplement EVER. This will be my third 1-ad cycle with my last being in November of 2003. My strength immediate returned. I hit 20 reps (barely) on the 225, my legs are just HUGE. My arms are very, very tight. I have never seen anything like it.
I know this is not a 1-ad test, but I report it as part of the Rebirth test b/c I think it is worth noting how drastically different my response to 1-ad was while taking Rebirth. Is there a connection? I don't know. I don't understand the chemistry well enough to say. However, I will say this, I sure think there is a connection.
My weight shot right back up to 296 during the first week on 1-ad but has since return to the 290 - 292 range. I am definatley tighter and stronger.
I realize that I "cheated" somewhat by starting 1-ad w/o getting the approval. I apologize for that.
TP, what are your thoughts on a possible connection between the Rebirth and the unexpected effectiveness of prohormones.
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As for my diet the last 2 weeks, my calories were a tad higher but the meals were essentially the same, just more food. My calories were in the 2,800 range which is still a slight deficit for me (or should be )
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Youre a beast!Pepper,
At the biochemical/cell/molecular levels, Rebirth does a lot of things that should potentiate androgen use -- for a fairly overfat person (by bodybuilding standards -- i.e 15-20%+), it would be a lot like a thin person adding 1000 calories and 50g of protein to their diet, when they started the androgen.
Basically, it helps fix "Fed state" signalling, which is screwed up in endos and the overfat.
Likewise, in someone who is thin, who suddenly adds calories, they are going to get more anabolic activity (and, in endos, and morseo, in the overfat, their "Fed" signalling is disproportionately directed to anabolism of adipose tissue (which is bad
At the biochemical/cell/molecular levels, Rebirth does a lot of things that should potentiate androgen use -- for a fairly overfat person (by bodybuilding standards -- i.e 15-20%+), it would be a lot like a thin person adding 1000 calories and 50g of protein to their diet, when they started the androgen.
Basically, it helps fix "Fed state" signalling, which is screwed up in endos and the overfat.
Likewise, in someone who is thin, who suddenly adds calories, they are going to get more anabolic activity (and, in endos, and morseo, in the overfat, their "Fed" signalling is disproportionately directed to anabolism of adipose tissue (which is bad
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Progress photo...not looking like much progress. Believe it our not, I think I look leaner. More and more people are commenting on it...However, this photo does not show it. Argghh. I had a few beers last night so maybe a little bloat?
