planning my second cycle need advice

[Vibrant]

First cycle was: 1-8 test p 500mg
6-8 tbol 40mg
adex .5mg eod
pct: clomid 100/100/50/50
aromasin 25/25/25/12.5 still on pct right now,

I was thinking something like: 1-8 or 1-10 test p at 700mg
1-4 dbol 20mg
1-8 proviron???? at 50-100mg
1-8 adex at .5mg eod
pct: clomid 100/100/50/50
aromasin 25/25/25/12.5
nolva on hand just in case

i want some advice on the dbol and proviron. on dbol, is a 20mg dose enough to get good strength gains and not a lot of bloat? should i bump it up 30mg?

i read up on proviron and it sounds really good. can it be stacked with dbol without added sides? some people even say to run it through pct, is that a good idea(although i dont think it is)?

any other cycles i should consider? however, keep in mind that i would like to keep my cycles as short as possible, so my recovery is easier. thanks

 

[Supermans Daddy]

I really like your idea bout short cycles with quick esters. Good think'n. Hit it hard and get the hell out. I've seen proviron used along with other compounds as a sort of "booster" or a kind of supercharger for lack of a better term. Proviron as a stand alone item never seemed to offer much, but that's speak'n stricly for myself.Perhaps you want to just do your PCT in the traditional manner. No need to rebuild the wheel.......................yet. lol Homey you are a refresh'n breath of air. Good questions and well researched protocol. BRAVO !!

Best of Luck to you

Peace and Love

 

[Vibrant]

yeah, i probably wont take proviron during pct because its still an aas. so, it might still cause shutdown and that will defeat the purpose of pct.

 

[s2h]

proviron works well in freeing up more test in the body.it does that by binding to plasma binding protiens like the SHBG.if your not dieting hard for a show i wouldn't really use it in a cycle.your cycle looks good.i also like the short esters and the shorter blast cycles.proviron doesnt suppress much at all but would leave it out of your pct.20mg of dbol is effective and will give you that added boost on the front end without much as far as bloat.nice cycle.

 

[SUPERFLY1234]

i would slow up the dosage of dbol till i find the sweet spot. mine is around 60mg

 

[Vibrant]

i would slow up the dosage of dbol till i find the sweet spot. mine is around 60mg

Dude, I would never consider 60mg of dbol. That's way too much imo.

 

[GMO]

First cycle was: 1-8 test p 500mg
6-8 tbol 40mg
adex .5mg eod
pct: clomid 100/100/50/50
aromasin 25/25/25/12.5 still on pct right now,

I was thinking something like: 1-8 or 1-10 test p at 700mg
1-4 dbol 20mg
1-8 proviron???? at 50-100mg
1-8 adex at .5mg eod
pct: clomid 100/100/50/50
aromasin 25/25/25/12.5
nolva on hand just in case

i want some advice on the dbol and proviron. on dbol, is a 20mg dose enough to get good strength gains and not a lot of bloat? should i bump it up 30mg?

i read up on proviron and it sounds really good. can it be stacked with dbol without added sides? some people even say to run it through pct, is that a good idea(although i dont think it is)?

any other cycles i should consider? however, keep in mind that i would like to keep my cycles as short as possible, so my recovery is easier. thanks

I would start your d-bol off at 30-35mg. That is generally a good launching point for a first time user. No need to go any higher than that if it is dosed properly.

 

[BigBird]

20mg Dbol seems too low. Start at 30mg and go from there. Yes, run the Proviron during cycle but not through pct. You should not need more than 50mg Proviron. It's usually dosed in 25mg tabs. One tab in morning and the other in the evening. That's a lot of Prop assuming you're doing 100mg ED? Probably could just go with EOD on the Prop since it's a propionate ester and not an acetate. Adex is a good idea but I use is 0.5mg E3D or E4D which is less than most run it.

 

[Vibrant]

20mg Dbol seems too low. Start at 30mg and go from there. Yes, run the Proviron during cycle but not through pct. You should not need more than 50mg Proviron. It's usually dosed in 25mg tabs. One tab in morning and the other in the evening. That's a lot of Prop assuming you're doing 100mg ED? Probably could just go with EOD on the Prop since it's a propionate ester and not an acetate. Adex is a good idea but I use is 0.5mg E3D or E4D which is less than most run it.

I want to start low on dbol because I don't want too much bloat, I just want to see how the strength gains are. Test prop, I'll probably start with 500mg the first four weeks while I'm on dbol and then I may bump it to 700mg for the last four weeks. I will be pinning eod. Adex, I'll probably stock to eod because in my first cycle I didn't have any sides and id like to keep it that way