I'm no expert bro so don't he me to this but u should not run hcg in pct as it is suppressive... The way u worded he OP leads me to belive u ran the hcg in pct? Maybe it suppressed you now u are having a estro rebound? That's what I think has happend..
But there is much more knowledgeble people on here so I could be wrong..
Anyway u can sit and pump aload of chemicals into ur body hoping the gyno goes or get blood work done!!
My advise go get blood work ASAP bro.
he followed the hcg with clomid... he should be fine... (suppressive is not exactly the word I would choose... suppressive to what?) I'm not trying to toss you under the bus here bro, just clearing some things up..
running hcg will make your body 'think' it has enough lh(and to a smaller degree, fsh) because there is plenty 'lh' floating around in your body.... Now, since he was running an AI(and nolva will work better for this purpose, with hcg... actually a combo of nolva and an AI is ideal...) his e2 should not have gotten too high while running the hcg(hcg does make males produce e2, as well as test).... using hcg for pct, one should also run NOLVA, and(if so desired) an AI... the e2 that your body makes(while taking hcg) is not 'aromatized' from test(although a SMALL amt of the test made from hcg could be aromatized), so NOLVA or CLOMID is NECESSARY to keep the e2 from binding to the receptors in the hypothalamus, and thus, suppress endogenous test production...
Now, given that he followed the hcg with clomid, he actually made his body produce and release lh and fsh(not just mimic them, and hence possibly screw with the feedback loop).. and the way he did it(had he taken nolva, or clomid, alongside the hcg) should have started the production of endogenous test(even without the nolva or clomid alongside the hcg, it should 'start' the production, but the e2 production from hcg use will quickly curb that production) in order to get some test going on the body's own... then following with clomid, to make the body produce and release it's own lh and fsh.... so, in effect, the suppression(I'll reuse your word, so you see where I am going with this) is not long lasting and the clomid eliminates the 'suppression' and picks up where the hcg left off(but in a manner that will leave him producing test on his own more quickly than just stopping following hcg administration)
As far as the gyno.... it is probably due to the fact you didn't use nolva with the hcg(as the majority of the e2 in your body from taking hcg is synthesized... not aromatized to e2)
you can start the letro or adex back at 1.25 or .5 eod(letro 1.25, adex .5) and taper it weekly(cutting the dose to half of the prior week dose... running for 3 weeks total)
BUT!!! take nolva with the letro or adex, and run it at 40mg ed for 2 weeks, then 30mg ed for 2 weeks, then 20mg ed for 2 weeks, then 10mg ed for another week, or two... this should remove the puffiness(and to a degree, a small lump)....
people, far too often, either don't know, or for whatever reason of thinking.... fail to use nolva when they start getting puffy nipples.... Just because other ancillaries lower e2 better,, does not mean they will lessen puffiness better!!!!
Nolva is far superior to adex or letro at relieving puffiness in the nipple!!!! and it is far easier on your lipids, along with many other 'areas' of bloodwork...
AI's have their place, but it should not be first line for nipple puffiness... that is what nolva is king for(I could go into the pharmakinetics, but I won't... you can find that literature if you take ten minutes away from posting and look for it....(when I say literature, I mean clinical studies, researh papers(backed by evidence), etc...I don't mean replies to threads on bb'ing forums...)
