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Why do you use spirilina ? Something to do with recouperation I suppose. Just curious I've never heard of it.

Nutrient dense superfood.

I also used to make vege juices for pWO that included:

Beets, spinach, garlic, ginger, celery, carrot for the same reason.
 
I have 50g dextrose with 30g whey, 5g glutamine and 5g leucine within 30 minutes of PWO. Then the fun starts. I then get in an additional 300-500g of carbs that night depending on how and what I've trained.


so much carbs so late sounds so good haha i naturally eat very low carbs im just so used to it i need to carb up becasue i look as flat as a pankake i used malto dextrin and have oats every day gonna start eating lots of sweet potatoe again when you do this late night carb up is clean carbs or u just go crazy with pizza n shit?
 
this guy gets it and ill bet he's losing body fat also.


Definitely. I'm getting heavier and leaner. Whoever said it's impossible to gain muscle and lose fat is a moron!

It's all about nutrient timing and changing how your body's hormones affect your growth and fat loss at different times of the day.
 
Only carbs I have on my postWO shake is 10g spirilina and 20g powdered oats with 30g wPI n 20g casein.



whats spirilina? super food you say hmmmm i will have to google this shit
 
I have been using karbolyn for about a year. 50 g pwo. When I used to use dextrose it would sometimes upset my stomach.


thanks for sharing!
 
so much carbs so late sounds so good haha i naturally eat very low carbs im just so used to it i need to carb up becasue i look as flat as a pankake i used malto dextrin and have oats every day gonna start eating lots of sweet potatoe again when you do this late night carb up is clean carbs or u just go crazy with pizza n shit?

Typically I have a clean meal about 30-45 minutes after my PWO shake, like jasmine rice and chicken. Then an hour or so later and up to 2 hours before bed you can have what you want, fat content doesn't matter...donuts, cookies, ice cream. Because of certain hormones and pathways that are active and open after exercise it's almost impossible for your body to store anything you eat as fat.

You don't eat carbs at any time other than in the evening on days you train. On non training days you eat roughly 1gram of protein and fat per lb of body weight (for example I eat around 150-160g of fat AND protein on off days. On training days I have one meal (about 80g of fat and protein) about 5 hours before I train.

Seriously check out dangerouslyhardcore.com there's so much information about it.
 
Typically I have a clean meal about 30-45 minutes after my PWO shake, like jasmine rice and chicken. Then an hour or so later and up to 2 hours before bed you can have what you want, fat content doesn't matter...donuts, cookies, ice cream. Because of certain hormones and pathways that are active and open after exercise it's almost impossible for your body to store anything you eat as fat.

You don't eat carbs at any time other than in the evening on days you train. On non training days you eat roughly 1gram of protein and fat per lb of body weight (for example I eat around 150-160g of fat AND protein on off days. On training days I have one meal (about 80g of fat and protein) about 5 hours before I train.

Seriously check out dangerouslyhardcore.com there's so much information about it.

If your running carbs lower on your off days and early on your training days, you never really getting to the point of topping off glycogen stores and spilling over into fat stores. In your case, pwo shake high in carbs is suitable for you.
 
If your running carbs lower on your off days and early on your training days, you never really getting to the point of topping off glycogen stores and spilling over into fat stores. In your case, pwo shake high in carbs is suitable for you.


That's part of it but not all of it. When you first start the diet you do a 10 day no carb phase to get your body accustomed to using fat as it's primary energy source. So while your dietary fat intake is high, your body doesn't store it and uses it as energy.

Along with the way your hormones are manipulated by the diet, it's almost impossible for your body to store fat PWO. The reason being is that the fat isn't available for use until about 2-3 hours after ingestion, by which time your muscles have taken all of the carbs in that they need and your body will then return to using fat as it's energy source, so it's never stored.

It's a pretty simple plan to follow but the science behind how it works is very complex. It's all to do with mtoR, insulin manipulation and activation of your GLUT4 receptors as well as taking advantage of your circadian rythm. Kiefer done something like 4 years of reading studies about different bodily processed before he put the eating plan to paper and if followed correctly some amazing results can be had.

Check out his latest article which gives some of the reasons why CBL is so awesome - CARB BACK-LOADING: 7 REASONS YOU NEED
 
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