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Power/reprange/shock OR HST ???
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o.k i'm sorry.
LAM hasnt voted for HST yet?
A principle belief in HST, is that if someone does more than 2 sets in the same workout of the same exercise, the 3rd set only burns calories, and doesn't increase hypertrophy.
Who agrees and disagrees with this?
Who agrees and disagrees with this?
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The site only says that there is "Some" evidence that any sets past the first only serve to burn calories. Thats why you do 2 sets, to play safe.
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I dont see why its silly. The science behind what he has on his site is well researched, and I use his principles with great success. Nothing against GoPros' workouts, they look great, and totally agree with the variation he bases his workouts on, but IMO HST is something that could really change the way a regular person trains.
There is no credible scientific proof that one set is "probably" enough, so we should do a second one just in case, but a third would just burn calories but build no further muscle. There are training protocols where 8-10 sets per exercise is most effective. Now, understand that most of the time I only do 2 sets per exercise, but thats b/c I keep overall volume low and like to use multiple movements, so I'm not saying that only doing 2 sets will NOT work. But, the blanket statement that doing no more than 2 sets per exercise, no matter what the overall volume, rep range, training strategy, etc is ludicrous!!! There is far more anecdotal and scientific evidence that multiple set training is needed to completely exhaust the motor unit pool than single set training.
I repeat...its a silly statement. That is MY opinion based on MY experience, my research, my consultation with other experts, and that is all I can say!
i used to do a similar workout to hst... it just seems to be a full-body workout. it worked for me, but i wanted a change after a while. its always good to vary exercises, but whether 2 or 4 is better could easily be debated. gopro's workout works for some, as hst will work for others. i believe variation would be best, as gopros workout proves, but maybe it would be better to try both, and swith between the two after a week of rest, to shock the muslces even more?
im sure people would swear by HST and otehrs woudl swear by gopro's.... im sure they both work. find one that works for you and use it. besides, a lot of the principles used by both workouts are the same... variation in exercises, compound movements, proper nutrition, etc...
i personally got tired of the full-body workout 3x a week, as it seemed too tiring with not enough results, but who knows, i might go back one day just to switch it up.
im sure people would swear by HST and otehrs woudl swear by gopro's.... im sure they both work. find one that works for you and use it. besides, a lot of the principles used by both workouts are the same... variation in exercises, compound movements, proper nutrition, etc...
i personally got tired of the full-body workout 3x a week, as it seemed too tiring with not enough results, but who knows, i might go back one day just to switch it up.
I'd like to try Go Pro's P/RR/S soon
i'm assuming it could be used on both bulk and cut cycles? by adjusting calories and level of CV to reach personal weight and BF goals?
i'm 1 of these guys who is naturally tall and skinny (ecto), i've got strength but i still need more mass, hopefully GP's workout will fix this, i wanna get them muscles poppin out there more
peace
i'm assuming it could be used on both bulk and cut cycles? by adjusting calories and level of CV to reach personal weight and BF goals?
i'm 1 of these guys who is naturally tall and skinny (ecto), i've got strength but i still need more mass, hopefully GP's workout will fix this, i wanna get them muscles poppin out there more
peace
I use P/RR/S for both bulking and cutting. Since you are an ectomorph, however, I recommend a slight variation...
P/P/RR/S
In order to hit higher threshold fast twitch fibers more often and to increase overall strength which will eventually translate to bigger muscles.
Originally posted by Tank316
ditto on the cutting as well as the bulking.
Hey Tank!
You should change believer to groupie.. like me. We can scream and jump up and down together when we see GP... you can catch me when I swoon!
AND Coach WHEN AM I GONNA BE AS BIG AS TANK?????
will do, i'm off for some morning cardio and other fun stuff, when i return, i will do just that!!!!!Originally posted by Sapphire
Hey Tank!
You should change believer to groupie.. like me. We can scream and jump up and down together when we see GP... you can catch me when I swoon!
AND Coach WHEN AM I GONNA BE AS BIG AS TANK?????
Ectomorphic body structure is characterized by a light bone structure, smaller joints, thin muscles, low bodyfat, and a fast metabolism.
Mesomorphs are thicker boned, but joints still relatively small, bodyfat low but not as low as ectos, and a propensity to carry muscle with very little traning.
All people are usually a combination of 2 somatotypes with one being slightly dominant.
Originally posted by Sapphire
Hey Tank!
You should change believer to groupie.. like me. We can scream and jump up and down together when we see GP... you can catch me when I swoon!
AND Coach WHEN AM I GONNA BE AS BIG AS TANK?????
GP groupies...I LIKE that!
And Sapphy honey...we both know you don't want to be as big as the freak they call "Tank!"
great stuff, i'm looking forward to trying it
i'll start it in May
Mon - Chest
Tue - Back + Abs
Weds - Rest
Thurs - Delts + C.V.
Fri - Arms + Abs
Sat - Legs + C.V.
Sun - Rest
Dose that split look okay, or would you recommend something else for me?
Thanks
My split is very similar to that, except that I do delts on chest day, and the arms and leg days are pushed back one. Also, I do my cardio inconsistently depending on time constraints. I prefer no more than 4 days per week (I used to do 3), but if you don't mind lifting 5 days per week then by all means...
Yeah Baby... you got yourself a couple of groupies!!
That's true... I guess Tank is freakishly big and muscular!! OK maybe half a tank for me!!
First Post!
4th Week of P/RR/S. Did P/RR and P/P about to hit the RR/S over the next 2 weeks. Can't wait to try shock week! Although I think it is going to be tough to superset in my gym unless I wait to go late at night.
I don't think I have ever had a program that keeps your body guessing like this one does!
4th Week of P/RR/S. Did P/RR and P/P about to hit the RR/S over the next 2 weeks. Can't wait to try shock week! Although I think it is going to be tough to superset in my gym unless I wait to go late at night.
I don't think I have ever had a program that keeps your body guessing like this one does!
Thanks for posting. I'm so glad you are liking my program! If its tough to do supersets in your gym, either make more use of dropsets (like just 1 superset and 2 different dropsets), or use supersets that don't require you to move around too much, like flat flye/bench press, pullover/lat pulldowns, preacher curl/barbell curl, etc.SpongeBob said:First Post!
4th Week of P/RR/S. Did P/RR and P/P about to hit the RR/S over the next 2 weeks. Can't wait to try shock week! Although I think it is going to be tough to superset in my gym unless I wait to go late at night.
I don't think I have ever had a program that keeps your body guessing like this one does!
Keep us posted!
P/RR/S IS THE BEST!!! Thats simply all there is to it...
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I never tried P/RR/S, but I would say its superior because it incorporates more variation and much higher intensity
I love routines that justify ideas with strong words like "probably" or "might." Nothing instills greater confidence in me than hearing that I MIGHT see results or I will PROBABLY see results.
Saturday Fever said:I love routines that justify ideas with strong words like "probably" or "might." Nothing instills greater confidence in me than hearing that I MIGHT see results or I will PROBABLY see results.
That would actually apply to ANY routine you could try: mine, DC, Westside, AST, HIT, or any other you could possibly think of.
Absolutely NO program is guarenteed to produce for EVERYONE.
But thanks for your unprovoked backdoor attack
