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Muscle Gelz Transdermals
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We're glad your company that sponsors you are humanitarians. But all supplement companies are undergoing this same scrutiny, including mine and I welcome it. It makes for a better industry.
Still patent pending is still just a word. And in that case, your sponsors are not being very honest with what they're saying because this stuff has a base of research somewhere. It's just misleading that all google searches generally point to your company's website. It can and probably is another HMB scam for all we know.

Your blatant display of profound ignorance just shows you know nothing about filing patent applications or doing proper research, moron! :pissed:

He are my final words on this subject and some sound advice to you all, if you can't say something intelligent and constructive, don't say anything! :wacko:
 
ZOIKS! just may be the MOST intelligent thing I have see you post! :roflmao:
 
Did you and gobro conspire to execute these posts together? It's kind of similar to the same silly drivel he posts, complete with cutesy icons emphasizing useless points.
 
Indeed - thanks for bumping this, juggs. I wonder what the holdup is? Is it legal to sell a product without identifying the active ingredient?
 
Indeed - thanks for bumping this, juggs. I wonder what the holdup is? Is it legal to sell a product without identifying the active ingredient?

Actually this is why the supplement industry is going through a huge change right now. The GMP is making a huge push to get the bullshitters out and really put things in that are credible and worthy of being called "supplemental". See it all here: NSF International : Good Manufacturing Practices (GMP)
 
Actually this is why the supplement industry is going through a huge change right now. The GMP is making a huge push to get the bullshitters out and really put things in that are credible and worthy of being called "supplemental". See it all here: NSF International : Good Manufacturing Practices (GMP)

AAEFX passes GMP standards every time with flying colors and on top of this also:

New certification ensures contaminant free production:

Billings, Mont., December 16, 2010 ??? All American Pharmaceutical (AAP) announced today that its Billings facility received certification as an Informed-Choice manufacturer. The Informed-Choice certification ensures that the supplements produced within the AAP facility are manufactured to strict FDA cGMP standards and are contaminant free through regular testing for prohibited substances???steroids and stimulants???following the World Anti-Doping Agency guidelines. Supplements, produced in AAP???s 110,000 square foot, state-of-the-art facility, are subjected to rigorous quality assurance checks to ensure authenticity, safety, potency and purity.

???As a contract manufacturer of nutritional supplements, we want our customers and our customers??? customers to have complete faith in the quality of our products,??? explains Jeff Golini, AAP executive scientist. ???We???ve always gone above and beyond minimum standards of quality, and now we have third-party verification of our exacting processes through the INFORMED-CHOICE certification.??? Nutritional supplement companies need to know that the contract manufacturing facility they are using has appropriate quality controls in place to minimize the risk of cross contamination between ingredients.

Becoming an INFORMED-CHOICE certified facility is a three-stage process that begins with a quality audit???and a preregistration swabbing of the facility to verify that it is contaminant free. The final stage is post-registration swabbing, which is ongoing with regular site visits every six months to ensure continued compliance. ???Our goal is zero tolerance for inadvertent contaminants,??? says Golini. ???The only way to ensure this is through consistent quality measures and regular testing. An added benefit of our INFORMED-CHOICE certification is that it streamlines the registration process for our customers to use the INFORMED-CHOICE logo on their finished products that we???ve manufactured. The INFORMED-CHOICE logo on product packaging gives consumers confidence and lets them know instantly that the product they are buying is what it???s meant to be.???

About INFORMED-CHOICE

The INFORMED-CHOICE certification program was established in 2007 by one of the world???s leading doping control laboratories, HFL Sport Science. Although HFL has been testing supplements since 2002, it became clear that there was a need for a comprehensive certification program that not only tested products for banned substances, but also ensured they were manufactured in qualified facilities that met FDA GMP standards.

INFORMED-CHOICE is a voluntary supplement testing and certification program that ensures users that products carrying the INFORMED-CHOICE logo are manufactured to strict GMP standards and regularly tested for substances prohibited in sport. Responsible supplement companies have made INFORMED-CHOICE part of their existing quality assurance systems to ensure their products are safer for athletes to use. For more information on INFORMED-CHOICE, go to Home | Informed Choice

About AAP

Founded in 1984, All American Pharmaceutical is a leading manufacturer of dietary, food and nutritional supplements. We specialize in producing private label and custom formulations for manufacturers ranging from general health and sports nutrition to anti-aging and food products. All American Pharmaceutical has the capability to produce liquid, capsule, powder and tablet products from concept through to finished packaging. We are also the exclusive manufacturer of the branded ingredients: Kre-Alkalyn®, Kre-Celazine®, KarboLyn®, ProtaLyn® and Lyzme5®???with many more to come. For more information, please visit All American Pharmaceutical

**AAP is the exclusive manufacturer for All American EFX Sports products.


Contact: Joe Archer, Vice President of Sales and Marketing
All American Pharmaceutical & Natural Foods Corporation
2376 Main Street, Billings, MT 59105 USA
406-245-5793
All American Pharmaceutical
The Official Website of Kre-Alkalyn®
Kre-Crelazine® "for joint flexibility & pain relief"

So, there is absolutely nothing negative that anyone could say about the practices of AAP/AAEFX.
 
Indeed - thanks for bumping this, juggs. I wonder what the holdup is? Is it legal to sell a product without identifying the active ingredient?

You can have Jeff's email at AAP and ask him anything you want. Would you like that? He can reveal whatever it is duty to reveal to you.
 
Indeed - thanks for bumping this, juggs. I wonder what the holdup is? Is it legal to sell a product without identifying the active ingredient?

I'm still waiting for "specifics" about the extrapolation of that wonder ingredient we've been discussing for (what is it, three months now without an answer)?

I didn't/don't care or need the company's views or their self-promoting achievements.
 
That'd work, thanks.
 
For a pre workout with a test booster and stims try Speed Xtreme or Napalm these two are pretty good napalm has a little more test boost ability Speed Xtreme will have more stims and cutting agents.
 
No and we went over this several times. I just don't like you. You're a douche.
No use in beating a dead horse, right?

LOL...I love people like you buddy. Your hatred drives me to greater and greater levels of success in this industry. Hey, did you get my (along with Rick Collins and James Villepigue) new book? Selling like hot cakes! It could teach you a few things maybe you can use! :thumb:
 
I'm reading the PDFs Jeff Golini sent me right now.
 
Fixed. Go away goof.

You see, I DO sense anger.

I mean...your dislike for me obviously makes you NOT want to see me be successful in this industry, and since I continually become MORE successful, that likely angers you. That only makes sense. And when you see what I have in store for 2011, you may just pull the hair out of your head!

:banana:
 
Muscle Gelz Transdermals
IronMag Labs Prohormones
you are all acting childishly and ruining what could potentially be a good thread and discussion with all of the insults and BS, aren't all of you around 35-40 years old?

seriously, everyone please act your age! :)
 
you are all acting childishly and ruining what could potentially be a good thread and discussion with all of the insults and BS, aren't all of you around 35-40 years old?

seriously, everyone please act your age! :)

This is true, LOL. But the problem is I simply cannot post anything without being insulted by juggernaut. I honestly would never even address him if he would do the same, but he cannot help himself. His anger and hatred are just that strong. Very unfortunate. :mooh:
 
Now - back to your regularly scheduled programming...
 
This is true, LOL. But the problem is I simply cannot post anything without being insulted by juggernaut. I honestly would never even address him if he would do the same, but he cannot help himself. His anger and hatred are just that strong. Very unfortunate. :mooh:

I think you both should just ignore each other, in fact there is a feature where you can put another member on your ignore list and you will not see their posts.

Go here: http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/profile.php?do=ignorelist

:thumb:
 
AAAAAH what the hell Lets lighten the mood up in this thread. WHo wants to try some N2KTS???

I got 3 full bottles to give away for some testers in this thread. POst up and then also remember to send me a pm to remind me you would like to try the N2KTS. THen you can post your review of the product here in this thread. N2KTS I focuse on energy,drive, and focus with a good muscle pump as a side dish. Lots of users also get a nice flush from it as well. TOss in youe lot to try a free sample guys. Cant wait to hear from all of you!!!!!
 
AAAAAH what the hell Lets lighten the mood up in this thread. WHo wants to try some N2KTS???

I got 3 full bottles to give away for some testers in this thread. POst up and then also remember to send me a pm to remind me you would like to try the N2KTS. THen you can post your review of the product here in this thread. N2KTS I focuse on energy,drive, and focus with a good muscle pump as a side dish. Lots of users also get a nice flush from it as well. TOss in youe lot to try a free sample guys. Cant wait to hear from all of you!!!!!
I bet your PM box is filling up..lol...Wish I would have not of just ordered my tub..oh well
 
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