Pre Workout Supplement question

[flash89912]

Hmm hows is N2KTS any different from jack3d? seems to contain basically the same ingredients...except N2KTS includes Fibersol2. Just wondering...I like Need2Slin...finally tried it

 

[ryansm]

Hmm hows is N2KTS any different from jack3d? seems to contain basically the same ingredients...except N2KTS includes Fibersol2. Just wondering...I like Need2Slin...finally tried it

Same ingredients from what I can tell

 

[Good Grip]

Im pretty sensitive to stims, do you think Jack3d is still worth a try? Sometimes I just like coffee before a workout. Just plain black coffee, but I heard it damages creatine.

 

[Built]

Im pretty sensitive to stims, do you think Jack3d is still worth a try? Sometimes I just like coffee before a workout. Just plain black coffee, but I heard it damages creatine.

Be happy: you heard wrong.

 

[DarkHorse]

Im pretty sensitive to stims, do you think Jack3d is still worth a try? Sometimes I just like coffee before a workout. Just plain black coffee, but I heard it damages creatine.

Give it a try, I like Jack3d. Some times I will take just 1/2 to 3/4 of a scoop and that will get me going with no worries of the jitters or insomnia.

 

[Good Grip]

Give it a try, I like Jack3d. Some times I will take just 1/2 to 3/4 of a scoop and that will get me going with no worries of the jitters or insomnia.

Yeah I dont want to let a good supplement go to waste. I got a free bottle when I ordered usp labs modern bcaa's. I think when im done with Jack3d ill be using Premax, a stim free pre workout supp.

 

[juggernaut]

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[Gazhole]

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+1 to this.

Not a huge user of supplements, as most people know, but i'm 100% behind the few that do work.

Currently taking this in conjunction with a lot of food on the 5/3/1 program and it's working great. Really helps during those tough rep-out sets.

 

[BIGBLUECHEVELLE]

Ive been hearing a ton of hype on the N2KTS. I messaged needtogetass to see if he still had free tubs to give out. i want to feel what all the commotion is all about and kill some weights.

 

[needtogetaas]

Same ingredients from what I can tell

Almost the same ingredents yes. Few different and also in very very different amounts. The effects are totally different. And if you do a net search you will find thousands ( Yes thousands) of people saying this. You may even catch the thread over on AM where I tossed a 100 units of it out for free. So you will see the reviews on that huge thread and all over that site too. However that is not the only place you will get posative feed back on it... Its all over the place..

Anyone who buys a bottle and is not happy with it will get a refund no questions asked so its pretty damn easy to put my words to the test risk free.
https://www.mrsupps.com/Catalog-Pre-Workout_4.aspx discount code needto10 will take 10% off the price and the shipping is 2-3 day priority mail for free.

I also have 2 more units I cane give out for people to try and give me a review.

 

[DIVINITUS]

I've stuck with creatine mono ever since it came out from the old school EAS brand with the shitloads of dextrose to now using strictly monohydrate in all of our products. It works and it's damn cheap and abundant.

Sucks, I would prefer to use mono...but it gives me cramps and farts!

 

[juggernaut]

Sucks, I would prefer to use mono...but it gives me cramps and farts!

Tell me something is it laced with anything added or just a simple combo of dextrose+oats and a scoop of whey?

 

[gopro]

Sucks, I would prefer to use mono...but it gives me cramps and farts!

CM also tears apart my stomach.

 

[djm6464]

Almost the same ingredents yes. Few different and also in very very different amounts. The effects are totally different. And if you do a net search you will find thousands ( Yes thousands) of people saying this. You may even catch the thread over on AM where I tossed a 100 units of it out for free. So you will see the reviews on that huge thread and all over that site too. However that is not the only place you will get posative feed back on it... Its all over the place..

Anyone who buys a bottle and is not happy with it will get a refund no questions asked so its pretty damn easy to put my words to the test risk free.
https://www.mrsupps.com/Catalog-Pre-Workout_4.aspx discount code needto10 will take 10% off the price and the shipping is 2-3 day priority mail for free.

I also have 2 more units I cane give out for people to try and give me a review.

you still have em..... and willing to send it to canada.....iv used a few jack3d knockoffs, and none so far, even 1mr, are as good....seeing i should feel it right away, you'll get my review pretty quick

jack3d
1mr
musclespeed......those 3 seem to be the best 1,3 dimeth supps iv used thus var.....value wise muscle speed is actually better, tehy have a 3 for 2 promo that never ends

 

[djm6464]

CM also tears apart my stomach.

x2 on both of those, creatine wise iv tried bulk stuff, kre, and so on.....con-cret has trumped everything, the crappy thing is its dbl the price of a kilo of mono, and will only go 24days, unless you are anorexic

i never found cm did much to begin with, gplc/glycocarn has been alot better imo, altho again pricier

 

[djm6464]

Yeah I dont want to let a good supplement go to waste. I got a free bottle when I ordered usp labs modern bcaa's. I think when im done with Jack3d ill be using Premax, a stim free pre workout supp.

nice plug there........actually the premax WAS good, worth its price tag...i dunno, which sucks cause id use it regularly if it wasnt for the way it goes down so fast

buying the map, glycocarn, n beta alanine seems to work as well

what are the extra benefits of the pemax vs my own concoction?

 

[ryansm]

x2 on both of those, creatine wise iv tried bulk stuff, kre, and so on.....con-cret has trumped everything, the crappy thing is its dbl the price of a kilo of mono, and will only go 24days, unless you are anorexic

i never found cm did much to begin with, gplc/glycocarn has been alot better imo, altho again pricier

Have you tried Creapure? I've heard of this along with bloat on other creatines but this is usually attributed to the pureness.

 

[ryansm]

nice plug there........actually the premax WAS good, worth its price tag...i dunno, which sucks cause id use it regularly if it wasnt for the way it goes down so fast

buying the map, glycocarn, n beta alanine seems to work as well

what are the extra benefits of the pemax vs my own concoction?

Ya that's the thing is the ingredients are all branded and highly effective yet expensive, but as far as performance goes it's amazing.

 

[ryansm]

Almost the same ingredents yes. Few different and also in very very different amounts. The effects are totally different. And if you do a net search you will find thousands ( Yes thousands) of people saying this. You may even catch the thread over on AM where I tossed a 100 units of it out for free. So you will see the reviews on that huge thread and all over that site too. However that is not the only place you will get posative feed back on it... Its all over the place..

Anyone who buys a bottle and is not happy with it will get a refund no questions asked so its pretty damn easy to put my words to the test risk free.
https://www.mrsupps.com/Catalog-Pre-Workout_4.aspx discount code needto10 will take 10% off the price and the shipping is 2-3 day priority mail for free.

I also have 2 more units I cane give out for people to try and give me a review.

I would take you up on this, but I cant handle 1,3 anymore from what I hear your product is effective.

 

[Good Grip]

nice plug there........actually the premax WAS good, worth its price tag...i dunno, which sucks cause id use it regularly if it wasnt for the way it goes down so fast

buying the map, glycocarn, n beta alanine seems to work as well

what are the extra benefits of the pemax vs my own concoction?

Premax has electrolytes and the convenience of having them pre-mixed. Id stick with your own bulk powder concoction if its suiting you well, its what I do most of the time.

 

[nysmo]

Hi, I am looking for some good pre-workout supplements, preferrably something with a fat burner & maybe a Testosterone booster.

I currently train 3-4 times per week and supplement with 4 scoops of Whey Isolate per day.

Any advice would be of great help.

Thanks Adam

for months I am using 3 scoops pre workout jacked after that I used no explode and Altered State ... not change with any other pre workout ... I recommend it to all

 

[Suspicious_Sean]

Red Bull

 

[djm6464]

Premax has electrolytes and the convenience of having them pre-mixed. Id stick with your own bulk powder concoction if its suiting you well, its what I do most of the time.

ahhh, thanks big guy.......i rotate my concoctions anyway, out of boredom, i like trying new stuff, go back to old stuff ect....theres a few that are good, ill keep the premax in mind, next time my girl wants a fkn $100 cream, ill use it against her

 

[Good Grip]

ahhh, thanks big guy.......i rotate my concoctions anyway, out of boredom, i like trying new stuff, go back to old stuff ect....theres a few that are good, ill keep the premax in mind, next time my girl wants a fkn $100 cream, ill use it against her

LOL! nice nice. Premax with Creapure and Beta-alanine is basically an all bulk powder formula anyways. I prefer to train early in the day so I dont need stims. If your looking for a something good stim wise, Heretostudy is trying out Lit from app nut.

 

[ryansm]

I hear good things about lit-up and the company is liberal with their samples

 

[Adamr]

Any pre-workout stim, including the brand we produce, has caffeine. There are tons of research behind caffeine and how well it works as an ergogenic aid for training and performance.
If you cant afford a quality pre-workout stim, use a type of caffeine tablet called caffeine anhydrous about an hour before training as well as some cheap arginine (about 5g).

can you tell me what the arginine does & what form it is best to take (caps, powder etc)

regards

 

[tigger1]

i use both no explode and on the smallest does o fest like a mad man!! but i also use superpumt250 and i seem to no fuck with my mind and heart as much and still gave me great results...just my opinion

 

[Good Grip]

can you tell me what the arginine does & what form it is best to take (caps, powder etc)

regards

It relaxes the smooth muscle of your arteries translating into decreased blood pressure. In higher dosed it increases NO levels. Taken before workouts and bed will increase natural growth hormone. It also boosts immune system.

If your looking for a real NO pump and performance enhancer, go with GPLC from Primordial. Gplc - Primordial Performance GlycoCarn increases nitric oxide (NO) levels.

 

[Adamr]

I think I may get some then. I have looked on line and the dosages seem to vary a lot: from 350mg to 1200mg caps, what should I be looking at?

 

[Good Grip]

I think I may get some then. I have looked on line and the dosages seem to vary a lot: from 350mg to 1200mg caps, what should I be looking at?

If your looking at Arginine, to get the NO effects you'll need I believe 13 grams wich is an absurd amount. For Gh releasing effects I think 4 to 7 grams will do, probably could get away with less.

As for GPLC 4.5grams has been shown to be the sweet spot. djm has said 6 grams works best for him so it could be up to the individual on how well it works, btw 4.5 grams worked great for me. You can find GPLC in powder form or capsule form at our website PrimordialPerformance.com