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Prepared Remarks of President Barack Obama
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President Obama gives controversial education speech; Gets support from Laura Bush
WASHINGTON - Laura Bush threw her support behind President Obama???s stay-in-school speech Tuesday, giving the White House some welcome backing from a key conservative amid some claims the address amounts to a brainwashing for schoolkids.
"If you quit on school, you???re not only quitting on yourself, you???re quitting on your country," Obama told Virginia high schoolers. "There is no excuse for not trying."
He added that when discouraged, "Don???t be afraid to ask questions; don???t be afraid to ask for help."
The former First Lady insisted Obama was doing right by addressing students, arguing that a President should urge America???s children to stay in school and crack the books.
"I think that there is a place for the President of the United States to talk to schoolchildren and encourage schoolchildren," former schoolteacher Bush told CNN. "And I think there are a lot of people that should do the same. And that is, encourage their own children to stay in school and to study hard, and to try to achieve the dreams that they have."
Obama pressed on with his plans to his pep talk in the gym at Wakefield High School in suburban Arlington, Va., despite blowback from conservative commentators and many parents across the country. The address aired in classrooms nationwide.
An Education Department document stirred the uproar over the speech, suggesting that students write about "how they could help the President." Republicans charged Obama was playing politics. The line was later dropped from the suggested lesson plan prepared by DOE.
"Questions have arisen about the purpose of this address and some of the specific tasks suggested for young students," Reps. John Kline, senior Republican on the House Education Committee wrote in a letter to Obama.
Earlier, Obama and Education Secretary Arne Duncan met with some 40 students in the school library, urging them to "be careful what you post on Facebook," the social networking site where people sometimes post questionable words and photos.
"Whatever you do,it will be pulled up later in your life," Obama cautioned.
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I actually agree on this entirely. This brings me back to the Charles Barkley days where he says that he is not a role model. Im sure kids look up to him, want to be him, idolize the guy. Does that mean parents should let Charles Barkley raise their child?
I have two kids at home right now, one in preschool and another in 4th grade. I take the time to solidify their numbers, letters, reading, colors, anything that will help them that the school doesnt have the time to teach, or that they do teach and i can reinforce it. My parents took care of me when i was younger(and we did not have money to our name) with regards to manners and education, i will do the same for my kids.
Enough is enough. If kids are little shits, its probably the parents fault.
I thought the speech was just an enforcement of staying in school. I can skew any discussion too.
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Call me an optimist...unfortunately...
personally, I have nothing against the President. I'd love to go have a beer with him in the White house.
I think its kind of cool that we elected a black man as Pres.
However...I don't care for some of his policies.
I did not vote for him because of that, as well as I think he's in over his head. He hasn't done anything to show that he can lead a nation.
I would love to be proven wrong and he turns out to be a good President.
Again...optimist.
As far as the speech goes, if all he said was:
take personal responsibility, do your best, no free ride, etc...then good job, sir!
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I think that half of America has a serious issue with a black president and that is where all of this crap stems from.
This is the lowest, cheapest crap imaginable. I would have thought you were above this type of pathetic drivel.
Randomly throwning out the race card when it has no bearing what-so-ever on the conversation and also when you can't back it up in ANY way, shape or form is beneath contempt. You should be ashamed of yourself.
If you want to attack the morons who mindlessly disparage the president then by all means, do so. But do it on the merits of each individual case. Just don't be so rediculously lazy as to make everything an issue of race. By doing that you sink to the intellectual level of Al Sharpton and Michael Savage. Hope you enjoy wallowing in the sewer with them.
P.S. The president said every child should stay in school and get a good education. As much as I despise the man, I think it was great that he took the time to say these things. Well done Mr. President.
This is the lowest, cheapest crap imaginable. I would have thought you were above this type of pathetic drivel.
Randomly throwning out the race card when it has no bearing what-so-ever on the conversation and also when you can't back it up in ANY way, shape or form is beneath contempt. You should be ashamed of yourself.
If you want to attack the morons who mindlessly disparage the president then by all means, do so. But do it on the merits of each individual case. Just don't be so rediculously lazy as to make everything an issue of race. By doing that you sink to the intellectual level of Al Sharpton and Michael Savage. Hope you enjoy wallowing in the sewer with them.
P.S. The president said every child should stay in school and get a good education. As much as I despise the man, I think it was great that he took the time to say these things. Well done Mr. President.
Agreed 100%.
I personally think the only ones that care that he's black are the one's always bringing it up. I don't give a flying fuck what color he is, but now my black neighbor thinks I'm racist & will hardly even look at me because I don't like Obama.
I'm really fucking tired of that shit.In my experience blacks are 100x more racist than whites are.
fuck, white's elected obama.. not blacks.
you cant dismiss the race issue. i would love to, but why would people be against everything this man does, including a benign school speech. i can understand policy, and opposing it, but there was nothing wrong with this speech, so why oppose it with such venom? it cant be a party issue, it has to be something else. to ignore race is just naive, it should be considered. hopefully it is not the issue, but you can discount the fact that it might be.
No, it's not... you're apparently new to politics.
I agree it was a stupid issue, but the opposing parties always try to turn the public against each other at EVERY opportunity. I don't defend it, I'm just saying it's not because he's fucking black.
Venom..
I love how you & Prince talk about the venom against Obama as if Bush had it so easy. The attacks on Bush were relentless, 100x worse & he didn't have the media in his back pocket.. ...and you can't get more white than Bush.
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I'm not dismissing the race issue, I'm calling bullshit when it's thrown into EVERY conversation, including this one, where it doesn't belong.
It can't be a party issue? Oh really? Why not? You state that as though it's a given fact. Please provide some sort of proof of such.
Democrats hated EVERYTHING Bush did for eight years simply because he was a Republican. And they've been doing it for decades. They even initiated formal investigations when Bush #1 gave the exact same speech to school kids during his term. Now that the tables have been turned it "MUST" be because Obama's black? That's bullshit. And as I said before, it's the lowest form of bullshit.
I believe this is the FIRST time I have brought up race in this context.
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My appologies to you. I was referencing the general population with my remark but quoted you as though I were directing the accusation at you. Again, I appologize and will be more clear next time.
they didnt oppose his speach, they didnt come out and declare its dangerous. no time in history has the presidents speech to children been such a source of controversy, so is it because the rivalry between the two parties is at an all time, high, or are some people playing the race card? also remember, while some politicians did step up and speak out, it was also the news and local principals. it went beyond just politics and it went as far as some schools not allowing it altogether. im just saying you cant wipe race off the board.
and busylivin, im not new to politics, the presidential address to school children is usually not challenged.
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Please go back and read my initial comment and the quote I was addressing. Prince stated that he believes half of the country has a problem with the race of the president. HALF! 50% of the entire freaking country!!! I'm not dismissing anything, I'm merely pointing out that every time people oppose Obama about anything they get labeled racist. And again, that's not directed at Prince alone, that's just what happens.
And to answer your question yes, I honestly believe the parties are SO incredibly divided it's causing this mess. But I also believe that's the formal, named parties. Most of us real human beings who live in the real world aren't that polar. I label myself as a conservative (Definitely NOT Republican) on most issues. But there are other issues where I'm moderate to liberal. I'd venture to say most everybody here would also land somewhere in the middle.
okay, I admit that was a bit exaggerated, but I do think that a large number of Americans have an issue with our president being black.
ok, i get you. the parties are indeed extremely divided, and that could be part of it, but to the common man, i personally feel racism plays a certain role. for a principal to ban the speech from his school shows questionable judgement, and a legitimate reason cannot be provided. that screams bias of some sort, political, racial, who knows.
im in the middle mostly as well, i tend not to get too worked up, until i see people blindly following party lines while forsaking logic.
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And, unfortunately, I'd agree with you. I just don't think that is the cause of most of the opposition to him. I honestly believe they don't like his policies or the people he's choosing to surround himself with.
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A certain role, yes. Where I think the three of us (You, Prince and I) disagree is just how much that percentage is.
As far as principals banning the speech, I can't answer that. The only explanation I can give is one I've heard from some of the principles, they didn't trust him to deliver the speech he said he was going to give. I don't like that explanation any more than you probably don't. Like I kept saying when Bush was getting slammed, you don't have to respect the man, but you have to show respect for the office. So you don't trust him, he's still the president. Show respect for that. Show the speech. If you feel he said something wrong, talk to the kids about it afterwards. Seems pretty simple to me.
Interesting..
A Perfect Storm of Idiocy - Rasmussen Reports™
A Perfect Storm of Idiocy
The wild furor over President Obama's speech to the nation's schoolchildren raises many questions, but there is only one that really matters. How did America surrender its political discourse -- not to mention the news cycle -- to the most unreasonable and unstable elements of the far right?
Not so many years ago, nobody would have imagined that a bland presidential address to young students, urging them to remain in school, study hard and nurture their aspirations for success, could engender a raging national controversy. Nobody would have believed that such an ordinary event could excite suspicions among a significant part of the population that the chief executive is "indoctrinating" their children into a "socialist ideology," or that the fate of the republic depended on parents keeping their innocents away from the classrooms, lest they hear his words. And nobody would have believed that the resulting wave of paranoia, supercharged by talk radio and cable television, could actually grip the attention of the public when real issues demand action.
When the nation's first African-American president proposes to urge children, and in particular those children who regard him as a role model, to behave wisely and avoid self-destructive behavior, liberals and conservatives alike ought to be expected to applaud him. Indeed, conservatives especially should be clapping loudly, since they have so often bemoaned the cultural barriers to advancement faced by poor and minority students.
So why have the idols of the right, notably Glenn Beck of Fox News Channel, instead seized this moment to stir anger and fear among Republican parents by claiming that the president intends harm to their kids? Why did many Republican leaders, notably the party chairman of Florida, echo the craziness? (And why would any parent take advice from Beck, a college dropout and recovering alcoholic?
While many Obama critics advertise themselves as "libertarians" who distrust any message from Big Brother in Washington, that healthy skepticism cannot be the reason for the current outcry -- because two of the past three Republican presidents spoke directly to the nation's schoolchildren without provoking any significant reaction at all.
In the fall of 1991, President George Herbert Walker Bush delivered a speech in a classroom that was broadcast live nationwide by the Pubic Broadcasting System, Mutual Broadcasting and NBC Radio Network. The blanket media coverage was arranged by the Education Department (which gave rise to a few grumpy remarks by Democrats in Congress that were duly noted but mostly ignored by the press).
"Thanks for allowing me to visit your classroom to talk to you and all these students," he said politely to the teacher who was hosting him, "and millions more in classrooms all across the country." He went on to tell his audience: "Make your teachers work hard. Tell them you want a first-class education. Tell them that you're here to learn. Block out the kids who think it's not cool to be smart. I can't understand for the life of me what's so great about being stupid."
His predecessor, Ronald Reagan, addressed students directly on at least two occasions -- once in a broadcast speech in 1988 and once in a session with high-school students at the White House in 1986. Both times, the Gipper seized the chance to promote his own policies, with particular attention to cutting taxes and his "vision of economic freedom." In fact, Reagan's remarks were entirely political, if not partisan. He did precisely what the right has wrongly attacked Obama for doing -- but that was a message that conservatives like to hear, so they didn't object to the "indoctrination" of students at the public's expense.
The irony of this tempest of idiocy is that the same blowhards who constantly slander and slur President Obama were telling us, not too long ago, that criticizing the commander in chief during wartime was tantamount to treason. But of course, they are patriots of political convenience -- with no allegiance to anything except their own power and their extreme ideology.
A Perfect Storm of Idiocy - Rasmussen Reports™
A Perfect Storm of Idiocy
The wild furor over President Obama's speech to the nation's schoolchildren raises many questions, but there is only one that really matters. How did America surrender its political discourse -- not to mention the news cycle -- to the most unreasonable and unstable elements of the far right?
Not so many years ago, nobody would have imagined that a bland presidential address to young students, urging them to remain in school, study hard and nurture their aspirations for success, could engender a raging national controversy. Nobody would have believed that such an ordinary event could excite suspicions among a significant part of the population that the chief executive is "indoctrinating" their children into a "socialist ideology," or that the fate of the republic depended on parents keeping their innocents away from the classrooms, lest they hear his words. And nobody would have believed that the resulting wave of paranoia, supercharged by talk radio and cable television, could actually grip the attention of the public when real issues demand action.
When the nation's first African-American president proposes to urge children, and in particular those children who regard him as a role model, to behave wisely and avoid self-destructive behavior, liberals and conservatives alike ought to be expected to applaud him. Indeed, conservatives especially should be clapping loudly, since they have so often bemoaned the cultural barriers to advancement faced by poor and minority students.
So why have the idols of the right, notably Glenn Beck of Fox News Channel, instead seized this moment to stir anger and fear among Republican parents by claiming that the president intends harm to their kids? Why did many Republican leaders, notably the party chairman of Florida, echo the craziness? (And why would any parent take advice from Beck, a college dropout and recovering alcoholic?
While many Obama critics advertise themselves as "libertarians" who distrust any message from Big Brother in Washington, that healthy skepticism cannot be the reason for the current outcry -- because two of the past three Republican presidents spoke directly to the nation's schoolchildren without provoking any significant reaction at all.
In the fall of 1991, President George Herbert Walker Bush delivered a speech in a classroom that was broadcast live nationwide by the Pubic Broadcasting System, Mutual Broadcasting and NBC Radio Network. The blanket media coverage was arranged by the Education Department (which gave rise to a few grumpy remarks by Democrats in Congress that were duly noted but mostly ignored by the press).
"Thanks for allowing me to visit your classroom to talk to you and all these students," he said politely to the teacher who was hosting him, "and millions more in classrooms all across the country." He went on to tell his audience: "Make your teachers work hard. Tell them you want a first-class education. Tell them that you're here to learn. Block out the kids who think it's not cool to be smart. I can't understand for the life of me what's so great about being stupid."
His predecessor, Ronald Reagan, addressed students directly on at least two occasions -- once in a broadcast speech in 1988 and once in a session with high-school students at the White House in 1986. Both times, the Gipper seized the chance to promote his own policies, with particular attention to cutting taxes and his "vision of economic freedom." In fact, Reagan's remarks were entirely political, if not partisan. He did precisely what the right has wrongly attacked Obama for doing -- but that was a message that conservatives like to hear, so they didn't object to the "indoctrination" of students at the public's expense.
The irony of this tempest of idiocy is that the same blowhards who constantly slander and slur President Obama were telling us, not too long ago, that criticizing the commander in chief during wartime was tantamount to treason. But of course, they are patriots of political convenience -- with no allegiance to anything except their own power and their extreme ideology.
Man they got Albob all worked up
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Oh great, the freakin' troll comes out of hiding after a decade and that's the best he can do? Somebody ban this fucker already.
How ya' doin' buddy? Long time no see. How's my girl Jill doin'? She ready to dump you and that hubby of hers for me?
I have not seen Jill in years, the last I heard is that she was pregnant. Her business as a trainer was not doing to well. I got divorced 5 years ago and lost my job last year. It took 6 months to find a new job for a lot less pay. Other than that it is going well. 
I would have to echo Alboob on this one. It was 100% political, but of course with some people it's about race. That is the problem, when you open your door to the nutjobs who happen to have similar political ideologies without critique, you get lumped in with them. It is one of the reasons I believe Sarah Palin is bad for the republican party. There is no one on this planet that doesn't realize she's batshit crazy, but the GOP refuses to admit it, instead they encourage her to spew her nonsense. Death panels...please.
