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i always try to do at leeast a protein serve 1/2 hr ish prior + whatever supps I'm doing for pre-wo and I also try to get a small carb in an hour or so before and a black coffe and O.J.
I do that to kick off valocidation and NO sythensis to work with.
What time might you be working out ? You hjave to think in perspective of where in your day you are at the time perhaps.
I do that to kick off valocidation and NO sythensis to work with.
What time might you be working out ? You hjave to think in perspective of where in your day you are at the time perhaps.
I usually work out first thing when I wake up. I just get a scoop of whey protein w/ water to start off with, either before i lift or do cardio (every other day alternate the two). I'm in my cutting phase so i try to stay away from dairy/juices. is that ideal?
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oh wow really.. i find if i dont eat before going to the gym i get bad lifts. Not eating enough (like 500 vs 750 Cal) before going to the gym i feel knocks 5-10 lbs off my squats.. maybe im crazy but i get a lot more tired.
well i guess its not just that.. but if i get hungry at the gym my lifts are bad.
well i guess its not just that.. but if i get hungry at the gym my lifts are bad.
you have a different goal than i do. i am currently cutting, while you are bulking. my goal is to loose some body fat while trying to maintain my muscle strength.
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By a small carb i mean something with 4-12 gms of complex or so.
Zona I read what you wrote. i think i can help you out to put it togther better but i have no time right now. i'll come back and chat to you soon
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BtL.
Zona I read what you wrote. i think i can help you out to put it togther better but i have no time right now. i'll come back and chat to you soon
.BtL.
Today...
2 Jumbo Jacks, 2 Monster Tacos and a Coke 90min before
2 Jumbo Jacks, 2 Monster Tacos and a Coke 90min before
By a small carb i mean something with 4-12 gms of complex or so.
Zona I read what you wrote. i think i can help you out to put it togther better but i have no time right now. i'll come back and chat to you soon
BtL.
Can't even respond for your boy?
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That's not funny. tempting to tease you on, but not funny and it doesn't tickle. If you want an answer to a question like that, i really would prefer and be more likely to respond if you just stick to that. 
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I probably meant vasolidation
What is it?
The increase in the internal diameter of a blood vessel that results from relaxation of smooth muscle within the wall of the vessel. This causes an increase in blood flow.
That increase in blood flow causes a rush of oxygen and nutrients and hormones into the muscle and gives a higher performance and enegry capacity as a result. It is sparked by a chemical reaction involving nitric oxide and L-Arginine. .. a most broken down form of one our amino acids and the pre-cursor for natural SYNTHESIS of human growth repair hormone.
The nitric oxide is a fuming chemical burnoff .. because it increases upload so voraciously it is something that can be exploited riight through the workout and into the recovery feed. It also has a relationship with insulin where they regulate and temper each other's dominance to change pace of metabolic action. The pwo complex carb / protein metabolism causing the tapering of what will hopefully be the pwo insulin spike increasing the vasolidation further ( via the high gluc taurine or other simple carb source I recommend ) to continue the burn off and upload to maximise the use of whatever is consumed complex carb and protein wise thereafter to maximise hypertrophy and or general muscle recovery through glycal replenshiment. Good way to avoid overtraing and make the most of a good workout.
SYNTHESIS is basic production of .In chemistry, chemical synthesis is purposeful execution of chemical reactions in order to get a product, or several products. This happens by physical and chemical manipulations usually involving one or more reactions. In modern laboratory usage, this tends to imply that the process is reproducible, reliable, and established to work in multiple laboratories.
A chemical synthesis begins by selection of compounds that are known as reagents or reactants. Various reaction types can be applied to these to synthesize the product, or an intermediate product. The amount of product in a chemical synthesis is the reaction yield. Typically, chemical yields are expressed as a weight in grams or as a percentage of the total theoretical quantity of product that could be produced. A side reaction is an unwanted chemical reaction taking place that diminishes the yield of the desired product.
The word synthesis in the present day meaning was first used by the chemist Adolph Wilhelm Hermann Kolbe.
Contents [hide]
1 Strategies
2 Organic synthesis
3 Other meanings
4 See also
Organic synthesis
Main article: Organic synthesis
Organic synthesis is a special branch of chemical synthesis dealing with the synthesis of organic compounds. In the total synthesis of a complex product it may take multiple steps to synthesize the product of interest, and inordinate amounts of time. Skill in organic synthesis is prized among chemists and the synthesis of exceptionally valuable or difficult compounds has won chemists such as Robert Burns Woodward the Nobel Prize for Chemistry. If a chemical synthesis starts from basic laboratory compounds and yields something new, it is a purely synthetic process. If it starts from a product isolated from plants or animals and then proceeds to a new compounds, the synthesis is described as a semisynthetic process.
[edit] Other meanings
The other meaning of chemical synthesis is narrow and restricted to a specific kind of chemical reaction, a direct combination reaction, in which two or more reactants combine to form a single product. The general form of a direct combination reaction is:
A + B → AB
where A and B are elements or compounds, and AB is a compound consisting of A and B. Examples of combination reactions include:
2Na + Cl2 → 2 NaCl (formation of table salt)
S + O2 → SO2 (formation of sulfur dioxide)
4 Fe + 3 O2 → 2 Fe2O3 (iron rusting)
CO2 + H2O → H2CO3 (carbon dioxide dissolving and reacting with water to form carbonic acid)
4 special synthesis rules:
metal-oxide + H2O → metal(OH)
non-metal-oxide + H2O → oxi-acid
metal-chloride + O2 → metal-chlorate
metal-oxide + CO2 → metal(CO3)
Chemical synthesis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I think it's really helped me to understand the science behind those processes. I hope it's of use to you.
Blooming tianshi lotus.
.I probably meant vasolidation
What is it?
The increase in the internal diameter of a blood vessel that results from relaxation of smooth muscle within the wall of the vessel. This causes an increase in blood flow.
That increase in blood flow causes a rush of oxygen and nutrients and hormones into the muscle and gives a higher performance and enegry capacity as a result. It is sparked by a chemical reaction involving nitric oxide and L-Arginine. .. a most broken down form of one our amino acids and the pre-cursor for natural SYNTHESIS of human growth repair hormone.
The nitric oxide is a fuming chemical burnoff .. because it increases upload so voraciously it is something that can be exploited riight through the workout and into the recovery feed. It also has a relationship with insulin where they regulate and temper each other's dominance to change pace of metabolic action. The pwo complex carb / protein metabolism causing the tapering of what will hopefully be the pwo insulin spike increasing the vasolidation further ( via the high gluc taurine or other simple carb source I recommend ) to continue the burn off and upload to maximise the use of whatever is consumed complex carb and protein wise thereafter to maximise hypertrophy and or general muscle recovery through glycal replenshiment. Good way to avoid overtraing and make the most of a good workout.
SYNTHESIS is basic production of .In chemistry, chemical synthesis is purposeful execution of chemical reactions in order to get a product, or several products. This happens by physical and chemical manipulations usually involving one or more reactions. In modern laboratory usage, this tends to imply that the process is reproducible, reliable, and established to work in multiple laboratories.
A chemical synthesis begins by selection of compounds that are known as reagents or reactants. Various reaction types can be applied to these to synthesize the product, or an intermediate product. The amount of product in a chemical synthesis is the reaction yield. Typically, chemical yields are expressed as a weight in grams or as a percentage of the total theoretical quantity of product that could be produced. A side reaction is an unwanted chemical reaction taking place that diminishes the yield of the desired product.
The word synthesis in the present day meaning was first used by the chemist Adolph Wilhelm Hermann Kolbe.
Contents [hide]
1 Strategies
2 Organic synthesis
3 Other meanings
4 See also
Organic synthesis
Main article: Organic synthesis
Organic synthesis is a special branch of chemical synthesis dealing with the synthesis of organic compounds. In the total synthesis of a complex product it may take multiple steps to synthesize the product of interest, and inordinate amounts of time. Skill in organic synthesis is prized among chemists and the synthesis of exceptionally valuable or difficult compounds has won chemists such as Robert Burns Woodward the Nobel Prize for Chemistry. If a chemical synthesis starts from basic laboratory compounds and yields something new, it is a purely synthetic process. If it starts from a product isolated from plants or animals and then proceeds to a new compounds, the synthesis is described as a semisynthetic process.
[edit] Other meanings
The other meaning of chemical synthesis is narrow and restricted to a specific kind of chemical reaction, a direct combination reaction, in which two or more reactants combine to form a single product. The general form of a direct combination reaction is:
A + B → AB
where A and B are elements or compounds, and AB is a compound consisting of A and B. Examples of combination reactions include:
2Na + Cl2 → 2 NaCl (formation of table salt)
S + O2 → SO2 (formation of sulfur dioxide)
4 Fe + 3 O2 → 2 Fe2O3 (iron rusting)
CO2 + H2O → H2CO3 (carbon dioxide dissolving and reacting with water to form carbonic acid)
4 special synthesis rules:
metal-oxide + H2O → metal(OH)
non-metal-oxide + H2O → oxi-acid
metal-chloride + O2 → metal-chlorate
metal-oxide + CO2 → metal(CO3)
Chemical synthesis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I think it's really helped me to understand the science behind those processes. I hope it's of use to you.
Blooming tianshi lotus.
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Vitamin C and clacium are soo vital to hypertrophy and proper muscle development and growth.. especially when lifting. i couldn't imagine deliberately putting a program together with no milk neither unless someone had an allergy. Soo many reasons to include it..
If that's the case for you though then what exactly are you doing for potassium / calcium and vitamin C and protein ( and viscous?)in place of those things?? How much protein arre you getting in a day x how many serves??
To start off with protein: I incorporate a source a protein in each and every meal, weather it be 1-2 scoops of whey mixed with water (depending on intensity of my cardio workout or if i lifted at that particular time), egg whites, and I cook up bonless, skinless chicken breasts.
I do also take a multi-vitamin once a day and take 4-6 fish oil capsules depending on how much "good fat" i consume in each meal, be it natural peanut butter, or even olive oil used when i cook my broccoli up.
I try to make my fruit servings to a minimum: usually early in the day or after an intense cardio/lift workout with the 1-2 scoops of whey. The fruit serving is usually a medium sized apple.
You might disagree with this, but i do not like to count what I eat. It becomes to overwhelming to count my serving and write down what I eat all the time, and fitday.com simply does not fit into my hectic schedule with working with a major D1 basketball team here in the states.
I recently did cut out yogurt which went with my oats a couple weeks ago. Someone (can't remember who) said to try and cut out all dairy after a certain amount of time, and well, I've been doing this for a while now.
I know I am loosing some (just a little at a time) muscle mass, but my main goal is to get down around 5% body fat, while maintaining the muscle that I have. I can always get bigger in the weight room, but I've never been able to get my body fat % down, and that's a major goal for me.
Thanks for your time Blooming: if there is simply too much here just let me know and I will try to make it a little simpler.
I do also take a multi-vitamin once a day and take 4-6 fish oil capsules depending on how much "good fat" i consume in each meal, be it natural peanut butter, or even olive oil used when i cook my broccoli up.
I try to make my fruit servings to a minimum: usually early in the day or after an intense cardio/lift workout with the 1-2 scoops of whey. The fruit serving is usually a medium sized apple.
You might disagree with this, but i do not like to count what I eat. It becomes to overwhelming to count my serving and write down what I eat all the time, and fitday.com simply does not fit into my hectic schedule with working with a major D1 basketball team here in the states.
I recently did cut out yogurt which went with my oats a couple weeks ago. Someone (can't remember who) said to try and cut out all dairy after a certain amount of time, and well, I've been doing this for a while now.
I know I am loosing some (just a little at a time) muscle mass, but my main goal is to get down around 5% body fat, while maintaining the muscle that I have. I can always get bigger in the weight room, but I've never been able to get my body fat % down, and that's a major goal for me.
Thanks for your time Blooming: if there is simply too much here just let me know and I will try to make it a little simpler.
Personally I eat a wholefood mean 2 hrs before hand, then I have shake between 60-1min before I workout, the later I leave it the better it is.
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A massive fuck off 800 cal meal 2.5 hours before. Protien, heaps of carbs, fat. 2 x Black coffees & 1/2 Gallon of water (spread out over 2.5 hours.)
Mind, it's the first meal of the day, and by miles the biggest.
Works for me.
Mind, it's the first meal of the day, and by miles the biggest.
Works for me.
