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Pro-hormone cycle..... First One... kinda iffy

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ASPIRIN'S SIDE EFFECTS:

Damage to the lining of your stomach, prolonged bleeding time, wheezing, breathlessness, ringing in the ears, hearing loss, chronic catarrh & runny nose, headache, confusion, nausea, vomiting, GI upset, GI bleeding, ulcers, rash, allergic reactions, hives, bruising, abnormal liver function tests, liver damage, and hepatitis. If you take too much, the toxic effect is Kidney Damage, severe metabolic derangements, respiratory and central nervous system effects, strokes, fatal hemorrhages of the brain, spleen, liver, intestines & lungs and
DEATH
300 to 500 reported deaths per year: (taken as directed).

But I have ARTHRITIS and the doctor tells me to take NSAIDs (Aspirin, Ibiprofen, Motrin, Naprosyn, Clinoril and others)

Although these NASIDs are effective in managing the symptoms of ARTHRITIS, they do not come without considerable risks and side effects of their own. Recent studies show that NSAIDs deteriorate the lining of the gastrointestinal tract. According to the National Institute of Health, consistent use of NSAIDs (aspirin) over prolonged time periods increase the incidence of hospitalization for stomach ulcers by six and a half times (650%).

Use of aspirin in children during viral illness has been linked to Reye's syndrome, a disease characterized by severe liver dysfunction and brain swelling. Symptoms include effortless and repeated vomiting, then a change in the level of consciousness (lethargy, stupor, combative behavior, delirium, seizures, coma).

No one knows what the cause of Reye's is, but it seems to be linked with aspirin use during viral illnesses. For this reason, authorities have recommended that children under 21 years with symptoms of viral respiratory illness or chickenpox do not take aspirin. Sometimes herpes outbreaks and viral gastroenteritis (marked by vomiting and/or diarrhea) are included in the list of illnesses during which aspirin must be avoided.

Unfortunately, it is often difficult to be certain of the cause of an illness when it starts. Aspirin is a component of many cold and flu over-the-counter medications, so avoiding it requires careful label reading on your part.

The most serious problem resulting from taking NSAIDs are their degenerating effect on cartilage; NSAIDS actually prevent the growth of collagen in the joints.. Simply put, taking aspirin internally prevents cartilage from repairing itself and speeds up the progression of osteoarthritis

But I only take one per day....."

Daily use of aspirin can contribute to macular degeneration, the leading cause of blindness in older Americans. Did you know that each time you take an aspirin you risk the chance of a hemorage. Did you know that mega dose vitamin C and aspirin therapy can cause your stomach to bleed into your gut? The Journal of the American Pharmaceutical Association Sept. 1996 notes: "Data from studies conducted over the last few years indicate that low dose (60-300 mg per day) aspirin and over the counter NSAIDs is associated with a significant risk of GI bleeding and upper GI hemorrhage. Users of NSAIDS are at approximately three times greater risk of developing serious GI events which include gastric ulceration, bleeding and DEATH than are nonusers."

Did you catch that? they said DEATH!...

But I take "BUFFERED" aspirin..

A recent study found that buffered or enteric-coated aspirin was as likely as plain aspirin to cause gastric bleeding- a common side effect of taking aspirin regularly. "The Johns Hopkins Medical Letter, March 1997"

OK, OK, I'll take Tylenol !

See "Tylenol, side effects of:

Why do people do this to themselves?
Ignorance is one reason, trust in their doctor , friend or parent might be another. . . . . . . Mommy, I have a headache, can I have an aspirin?

?

INTERACTIONS and PRECAUTIONS

1. Blood thinners (Coumadin, heparin) can increase the risk of bleeding.
2. Monitor closely when taken with cortisone medications (can increase stomach ulcers).
3. Antacids can decrease aspirin levels.
4. Use with beta-blockers (acebutolol) can lead to decreased antihypertensive effect of acebutolol.
5. Use with ACE inhibitors (captopril, Zestril, enalapril) can lead to decreased ACE inhibitor effect.
6. Use with allopurinol can lead to decreased allopurinol effect.
7. Use with antacids can lead to decreased aspirin effect.
8. Use with bumetanide, ethacrynic acid, or furosemide can lead to possible aspirin toxicity.
9. Use with diclofenac can lead to increased risk of stomach ulcer.
10. Use with nonsteroidal anti-inflammatories (indomethacin) can lead to increased risk of stomach ulcers.
11. Use with oral hypoglycemic agents (glyburide, Dymelor, glipizide) can lead to low blood sugar.
12. Use with other salicylates can increase risk of salicylate toxicity.
13. Use with insulin can decrease blood sugar.
14. Use with methotrexate can increase methotrexate effect and toxicity.
15. Use with acetaminophen can increase risk of kidney damage (if both are used in high doses for prolonged period).
16. Use with alcohol or nicotine can increase risk of stomach ulcers.
17. Use with vitamin C can decrease vitamin C effect and aspirin excretion.
18. Use of aspirin can lead to foliate depletion (HAIR LOSS)



http://www.juiceguy.com/ASPIRIN-side-effects-include-DEATH.shtml
thats about 299-499 more deaths per year than steroids.......and that includes steroids not taken taken as directed.
 
show me the stats on steroid death per year retard
 
MP fit said:
Steroids are injectable versions of synthetic testosterone while pro-hormones/ pro-steroids require enzyme conversion in the body to become the target anabolic agent... obviously making steroids more effective.
what target hormone does 1-test convert to then?
 
MP fit said:
I took a 6 week cycle of FinigenX Magnum when I was twenty also... I ran it with 1,4 andro-dione, weight gainer, creatine, vitamins etc...

FinigenX is a very potent formula and will definately provide you with good results so long as you train and eat right. As for the legality issue, I believe that this supplement was overlooked by the FDA and the fact that it is legal is just luck...
Steroids are injectable versions of synthetic testosterone while pro-hormones/ pro-steroids require enzyme conversion in the body to become the target anabolic agent... obviously making steroids more effective.
Also- the bioavailability of most pro-hormones/pro-steroids are relatively low(meaning you need to consume high amounts in order for effects to be seen)...another reason why injectable steroids are more beneficial.

I personally like pro-hormones/pro-steroids because they are generally weaker anabolics than most steroids--though i have yet to do a steroid cycle. I don't like blowing up and making it obvious i'm on roids... Not to mention I have never lost any of the muscle i have gained on either my 1,4 + FinigenX cycle or my first cycle (VPX 1-TEST) but this is probably due to a good PCT.

Cool man.... I'm leaning towards you.
I do know neither are safe, but roids are roids.... and theres no way 'd ever do them. I've read many reviews about this paricular product too and they have said some great things about it, how it isn't as bad for your body as other supplements, and how the results can stay with you.
By the way, what did you take after it? I was going to go with 6-oxo, but should I get that perscribed thing?
Thanks man
 
You sound like a very ignorant and foolish young kid. Who should be doing alot more reading before putting this shit into his system
 
You sounds like a fucking idiot, and shut the fuck up.

If you don't have anything positive or helpful to fucking say, don't fucking type it, and go do something productive, you stupid fuck.
 
Yea, fuck!
 
That's right.
I'll throw in an asshole in there too.

Kick it up a notch
 
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Seriously dude, if you knew crap, you'd know that injectables completely bypass the liver, therefore they dont jack around with it, and cause unnecessary damage, as they wont cause it to the other tissues they cycle through. Just because something is "illegal" doesnt mean its bad.
 
MP fit said:
Not to mention I have never lost any of the muscle i have gained on either my 1,4 + FinigenX cycle or my first cycle (VPX 1-TEST) but this is probably due to a good PCT.

that's because you are no where near your natural genetic potential.
 
Hlanderr said:
You sounds like a fucking idiot, and shut the fuck up.

If you don't have anything positive or helpful to fucking say, don't fucking type it, and go do something productive, you stupid fuck.


Point Proven
 
Why are roids illegal then? Why do they want to take certain supplements off the market?
 
CancerNV said:
Why are roids illegal then?

because there are no lobbyists in DC that support them, it's all about politics and money. it has nothing to do with public health because if that was the case then cigarettes would be made illegal.
 
LAM said:
it's all about politics and money. it has nothing to do with public health because if that was the case then cigarettes would be made illegal.


It is certainly about money. Pharmacetical companies are also making big money on drugs and they have lobbyiest in DC preventing some of the supplements that mimic prescription drugs from being made available. As to the roids being illegal...they are [B]"illegal to obtain without a prescription[/B]". There are medical reasons to take steriods and cutting agents such as cytomel (T3), I for example will be taking T4 and even T3 for the rest of my life. Epogen, while it may not be used in bodybuilding, is a performance enhancing drug, but it is also a needed drug for those getting chemo and radiation treatment for cancer.
 
I cant wait to do my second superdrol cycle
im comming into PCT right now

2 weeks and gained over 10 pounds of muscle

amazing,,

shit wonder what Meth 1 test could do in 1 month.

sadly i gained over 30 pounds
sadly most of it is body fat.
 
FishOrCutBait said:
Seriously dude, if you knew crap, you'd know that injectables completely bypass the liver, therefore they dont jack around with it, and cause unnecessary damage, as they wont cause it to the other tissues they cycle through. Just because something is "illegal" doesnt mean its bad.
That aint strictly true, all steroids are processed by the liver at some stage
 
How come it's on the level 3 list then for steriods!?!?

I NEVER claimed to know much asshole.
This thread is FULL of dickheads who think they are so tough coming in and telling me I don't know shit. You guys are fucking riduculous! Every positive reply in this thread was discolored by some stupid shit knocking on me because I'm questioning vague statements.

Go find something else to do if you have nothing to say that will help.
Roid lovin fuckers..... it's cheating anyways, dont you see?
 
IainDaniel said:
Point Proven

Look at this fuck, go the fuck away.
You come in and just knock on me because I don't really know much about this shit yet. You never made one post regarding information.
Go find something to do with you time you little bitch instead of coming here to knock on people..... it's a waste of time and a waste of this site
 
I had such high hopes for this site, but it's been such shit since I've been here. What a waste of time
 
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This site is great, could be a life saver for you, literally.
 
Oh shit. I'm never taking aspirin again. :eek:
 
Hlanderr said:
You come in and just knock on me because I don't really know much about this shit yet.
The don't say shit like this:

"The sterioids taken by roiders are COMPLETELY different in stature and in magnitude.
Even this noob knows that. Why else would they be illegal?"

And get upset when someone points out that you don't seem to know what you're talking about.
 
Hlanderr said:
I had such high hopes for this site, but it's been such shit since I've been here. What a waste of time
I know how you feel
 
Hlanderr said:
I had such high hopes for this site, but it's been such shit since I've been here. What a waste of time


Then get the fuck outta here douchebag. You come in here talking like you know all this shit about Steroids and PH's only to turn around afterwards and back track, after it has been pointed out you need to read more (wow such an insult that was, actually was very helpful... you are just too fucking stupid to heed the advice)

So until you prove otherwise you are an ignorant and immature little shit, you are 19yo and have alot to learn so knock that chip off you shoulder before someone does it for you.

Actually just get the fuck outta here. Go take some PH's at an assanine amount, and forget about your PCT, cause you are too fucking smart for that shit.

Good Riddance fucknut
 
IainDaniel said:
Then get the fuck outta here douchebag. You come in here talking like you know all this shit about Steroids and PH's only to turn around afterwards and back track, after it has been pointed out you need to read more (wow such an insult that was, actually was very helpful... you are just too fucking stupid to heed the advice)

So until you prove otherwise you are an ignorant and immature little shit, you are 19yo and have alot to learn so knock that chip off you shoulder before someone does it for you.

Actually just get the fuck outta here. Go take some PH's at an assanine amount, and forget about your PCT, cause you are too fucking smart for that shit.

Good Riddance fucknut
ouch
 
LAM said:
that's because you are no where near your natural genetic potential.


Many friends of mine have stopped working out since we did these cycles years ago... I am the only one who kept all of my gains... I never went below 155 after I reached it on my first 1-test cycle. Sry but seeing all of my friends lose all their muscle they gained leads me to think that your statements are somewhat irrelevant... whether i reached my genetic potential or not... post cycle i will lose my muscle if I don't keep an anabolic state in my body...or keep working out- genetics is not as big of a factor as you seem to make it out to be
 
MP fit said:
Many friends of mine have stopped working out since we did these cycles years ago... I am the only one who kept all of my gains...

if your body produces sufficient amounts of sex hormones to support the amount of LBM that you have the only things that would cause a persons body to atrophy to a significant degree would be etheir a complete lack of exercise or a serious reduction in calories. that's human biology 101

use it or lose it
 
Why mess around with these new compounds whose effects on the body are largely unknown? Why not use the tried and true injectables,like Testosterone?
 
So how then, can you be prescribed for anabolic steroids? Not like the kind you inject in your knee if it's messed up or something...

I'm obviously not going to do it, seeing as how I am 17, and I have already stated that I won't use them.
But it's just interesting to know either way.
 
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