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I agree 100% with GP on this. That is exactly what happened. And just so people will know I have never bought a VPX product, but I admire them for standing up for what they thought was right. One person tried to sacrifice everything for the the sake of 1 or 2 compounds.
 
I don't know?? I don't think there is anything anyone can do, much less one company. It is not as big as tobacco or alcohol, so it falls on deaf ears!
 
Originally posted by dg806
I don't know?? I don't think there is anything anyone can do, much less one company. It is not as big as tobacco or alcohol, so it falls on deaf ears!

What?

:finger:

If we all just sit back in life and say "there is nothing we can do" where would we be today?

A company as big as VPX can get together with other big supplement companies, higher lawyers, fight the goddamn government!!!
 
Originally posted by Prince

A company as big as VPX can get together with other big supplement companies, higher lawyers, fight the goddamn government!!!
That is exactly the problem. Too many egos and they can't agree. Each is too greedy. So, everything will get banned.
 
Originally posted by dg806
That is exactly the problem. Too many egos and they can't agree. Each is too greedy. So, everything will get banned.
That's it! The supplement industry needs to remember the term "divide and conquer".
 
Originally posted by dg806 The FDA is stopping it from getting in at the borders.
Yeah, just like the DEA stopped columbian and bolivian cocaine from getting in, and mexican weed, and heroine from the golden crescent. They can't stop shit. One of two things is going to happen here. 1. The DEA will have to expand resources, probably costing taxpayers hundreds of millions of dollars to try to stop these so called "raw materials" from getting in. or 2. With the economy in the shits and an election coming up, the DEA won't get any more funding and this will divert some of their resources away from stopping all the other drugs from getting in. Number 1 sounds like a loss for anyone who doesn't work for the DEA, FDA, or a local police force, number 2 sounds like a minor win from people smuggling other drugs into the country.
 
Bottom line even if it gets banned months from now the raw materials are still gonna get into the country.
 
Originally posted by Prince
okay that's fine...

VPX is a pretty big boy on the block as far as a supplement company, correct?

so, what is VPX doing to help in this fight?

There is no more fight...its done. VPX is accepting it and moving onto bigger and better things.
 
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ya i dont understand how something legal can be siezed?? makes no sense unless i missed something while reading all this...isnt what they are doing illegal?
 
Originally posted by gopro
There is no more fight...its done. VPX is accepting it and moving onto bigger and better things.

Bullshit, rolling over and playing dead is exactly what the Iraqi people did, that is why they had a dictator in charge for so many years. They were like zombies over there, they felt helpless, powerless, they just accepted whatever they were told.

That is not what America is about! Even if we fight and lose, at least we stood up and fought the battle. What the hell is this country coming to. :no:

I think we are all in need of a serious fucking history lesson!

You know how many black people died in this country standing up for what they believed in? Martin Luther King died for this exact thing! He said we will not accept the way the government is treating us, black people were beaten, killed, murdered, spit, on shit on, but they KEPT ON STANDING UP TO THE GOVERNMENT AND FIGHTING!!! THEY DID NOT GIVE UP!!!

FUUUUUUUUUUUCK!!!!

THIS SHIT PISSES ME OFF!!!!

WAKE THE FUCK UP PEOPLE!

So, what is next? If this shit passes the FDA can pull fucking creatine off the shelves! Maybe the VPX companies better start realizing how far this can go before they find themsleves bankrupt.

Moving on to bigger things...what a crock of shit. There is nothing bigger than this, this is it! This could be the god damned end to it all Eric!!!

I apologize, but I am so freaking passionate about subjects like this, I am about ready to devote my life to fighting the government and corrupt political shit that they are shoving down our throats as the rich get richer.
 
I voted republican so I can do what I want w/o the government telling me what I can or cant do. Guess that didnt help and if it did help I dont dare to think what it would be like on the other side of the coin. Law school here I come
 
we need a god damned revolution....that is all there is to it.

and I am being serious.

our government is so fucking corrupt it sickens me.

War on Drugs? LMFAO!!!! Every other commercial on TV is about a new damned drug! oh wait a minute those drugs are okay, despite the host of side effects, seeing that the government is heavily supported by the pharmacuetical industry.
 
Originally posted by Prince
Bullshit, rolling over and playing dead is exactly what the Iraqi people did, that is why they had a dictator in charge for so many years. They were like zombies over there, they felt helpless, powerless, they just accepted whatever they were told.

That is not what America is about! Even if we fight and lose, at least we stood up and fought the battle. What the hell is this country coming to. :no:

I think we are all in need of a serious fucking history lesson!

You know how many black people died in this country standing up for what they believed in? Martin Luther King died for this exact thing! He said we will not accept the way the government is treating us, black people were beaten, killed, murdered, spit, on shit on, but they KEPT ON STANDING UP TO THE GOVERNMENT AND FIGHTING!!! THEY DID NOT GIVE UP!!!

FUUUUUUUUUUUCK!!!!

THIS SHIT PISSES ME OFF!!!!

WAKE THE FUCK UP PEOPLE!

So, what is next? If this shit passes the FDA can pull fucking creatine off the shelves! Maybe the VPX companies better start realizing how far this can go before they find themsleves bankrupt.

Moving on to bigger things...what a crock of shit. There is nothing bigger than this, this is it! This could be the god damned end to it all Eric!!!

I apologize, but I am so freaking passionate about subjects like this, I am about ready to devote my life to fighting the government and corrupt political shit that they are shoving down our throats as the rich get richer.


^^^^ that was the most fucking punk rock thing i have ever read on any bodybuilding forum. i agree with you 110% prince. fuck it lets give them our freedom of speech wihile were at it! this country was established by fighting a government, and now we are turning into the same goddam thing that we fought so hard to claim our independance from in the first place. the problem is that there are no real people left in this country , no one that will fight for there rights. i mean shit, well it doesnt matter what i mean because nobody that is in a position to make a differance cares. fuck it, down with democracy, up with communism.
 
Originally posted by Prince
Oh, and my last word on this...

FUCK EVERY SUPPLEMENT COMPANY OUT THERE THAT IS NOT SINKING EVERY EXTRA DIME INTO FIGHTING THIS THING!

AMEN brotha!!:thumb:
 
Originally posted by Prince

Moving on to bigger things...what a crock of shit. There is nothing bigger than this, this is it! This could be the god damned end to it all Eric!!!

Thats what I was thinking, what could possibly be bigger than this?
 
War on Drugs? LMFAO!!!! Every other commercial on TV is about a new damned drug! oh wait a minute those drugs are okay, despite the host of side effects, seeing that the government is heavily supported by the pharmacuetical industry.

HELL YEAH! Preach on, brother, you are right! It's so hypocritical it makes me sick. Sometimes you see an "anti-drug" ad followed by a pharmaceutical ad. I am truly sickened by it all. You know, there are other countries in which direct-to-consumer drug marketing is illegal. We, of course, are not one of them, yet we spend millions convincing normal people they have problems and need prescription drugs.

You don't even want to know my opinion about what justice should befall these greedy bastards...yes, it would make us all laugh, but I would feel guilty saying it.

That, of course, is the difference between "us" and "them"

We have a conscience.

And the fact that supp. companies have not united to support the cause is proof to how much they care about your and my rights. Play all the semantic and history games you want, the fact that they havenot formed a legitimate lobbying group shows you they are more selfish and greedy than anything. This effectively prooves the governments' point, to a degree.


Our government is fully controlled by corporate interests and it makes me vomit and want no part in it. A revolution is the only thing that would unhinge the entrenched interests that have control.

We are the new Babylon, people. It scares me.
 
Okay, since the gloves are off...

FUCK PROFESSIONAL BASEBALL!!

Those GREEDY FUCKS are the reason we are in this fiasco.

EVERY OTHER SPORT took steps to address PH and other performance enhancing supps, but MLB refuses, pushing this to the forefront of debate.

I used to be a huge MLB fan...collected cards, went to games in Chicago, played little league, etc. Now I despise American Baseball. Those lazy bit$(@ get paid more in one year than I may make in a lifetime, AND have caused PHs to be banned. I can't express any more disgust without offending people.
 
Originally posted by gopro
For brodus:

Big Pharma Assumes Control of United States Government:

Please advise all of our esteemed VPX patrons that it is now official that the Feds have united in a joint task force, i.e., DEA, FDA, and US Customs and are stopping all shipments of pro-hormones and pro-steroids coming into the United States of America. Funny thing is, last time I checked, prohormones/pro-steroids were legal dietary supplements protected by the current law, DSHEA! Big Pharma has assumed control of the United States of America.

This statement came from Jack Owoc, CEO of VPX. He has confirmed to me that this is true. We are all hopeful that this is either innacurate or going to change. Jack is a little more than interested in this of course, and this will greatly affect business. I will post more as I learn it, but DO NOT question my purposes. I am supplying my friends with information from the inside that they may not be privy to...that is all.

As I discussed at length on Avant, it is not so clear cut that PHs and PSs are legal dietary supplements. Not at all.
 
Originally posted by Prince

Martin Luther King died for this exact thing!


Martin Luther King died fighting the PH Ban? :D

If any of you think that this will stop with andros you are sorely mistaken. I seem to remember a few years back some high schoool wrestlers died sucking weight and they were coincidentally taking creatine which caused an uproar. It is this kind of isolated incident that gets things started.
 
The owner of VPX and every other supplement company will do as they wish. You have the right to write letters, scream in the streets, take out ads, and buy some time on a local TV station to rant and rave about all of this.

Personally, I wouldn't mind if all supplements were taken off the market and everyone had to build their body's with just training and food. THEN we'd see who the true hard workers are and how far the human body can go all on its own.

But thats just me.
 
Originally posted by gopro
The owner of VPX and every other supplement company will do as they wish. You have the right to write letters, scream in the streets, take out ads, and buy some time on a local TV station to rant and rave about all of this.

Personally, I wouldn't mind if all supplements were taken off the market and everyone had to build their body's with just training and food. THEN we'd see who the true hard workers are and how far the human body can go all on its own.

But thats just me.

Good point, Eric. Because we all know that no one in bodybuilding uses illegal substances. :eek:
 
Hey, TP it would be greatly appreciated if you could lend some professional "legal" input here? :)

I know you say you have discussed it elsewhere, but could you post something for us here....

Eric, I hear you on the building our bodies naturally, but it's ironic that you make that statement when you're currently employed by a supplement company. :shrug:
 
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