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Question on Force Production

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Creatine causes water retention and that is why you get stronger .

That is not why you get stronger. Water retention has nothing to do with it. It increases the level of energy substrate in the energy system most used to lift heavy weights.
 
Well it seems you disagree with me and that is fine. Opinions are like assholes.......no need to debate the obvious any more IMO.

That's fine. People can make their decisions based on what was said.
 
That is not why you get stronger. Water retention has nothing to do with it. It increases the level of energy substrate in the energy system most used to lift heavy weights.

It increases water retention almost immediately and that is a fact....what ever else it does takes weeks.
 
That's fine. People can make their decisions based on what was said.

Nice spin but, Intelligent people will, make decisions based on personal experience and common sense. No scientific data was posted here. ;)
 
Nice spin but, Intelligent people will, make decisions based on personal experience and common sense. No scientific data was posted here. ;)

What spin? All I said was people can make their own decisions.
 
I did it again. :(

I already won the argument. The basic argument was that when you cut you typically lose a little to a significant amount of strength, and that's why I don't want to cut right now...

I just wanted more reasons why I'm right. I mentioned to a lesser degree what CP was saying, about losing a little muscle and being in short supply of energy substrates.

I always thought that even just some extra weight in the way of fat and water can up ur lifts slightly...CP makes a good case though, but it doesn't really matter...No sense in people getting worked up over a purely hypothetical non-applicable situation.
 
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