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I don't think he meant that at all. I'm pretty sure he was simply stating that the entities are pretty much one and the same thus it matters little who is in office.
I think alot of people make the mistake of thinking Bush was the one running the show. Obama was presented as the opposite to Bush but does many of the same things, that, I think, is showing people that even if you have two very different people in office the outcome changes little.
Yes, the system is setup to only allow the bribe-taking sort of person to be president, but that does not absolve Bush or Obama of their actions against the country.
 
yea thanks obuma ..sumthang bush never did.but i'm sure its his fault somehow:coffee:

It's not Bush's or Obuma's fault really. Not the Repub's or Demo's either. Fact is, this started a long time ago. It encompasses both Repeb's and Demo's, it has control of our jobs (lack of jobs) our income, health care and that of the worlds now.

The fake war on terror, the fake war on drugs and so on, are just more things used to keep us frightened and under control. Keep us fighting among ourselves and to most of all, keep the people from working together to save our country, rights and our very lives.

The politicians in this country are completely owned and operated but the corporate structure running this world into the ground. That includes corporations, big unions, big banks and so on.

That being said, we cannot count on our own government to help us anymore. It is high time to stop pointing fingers at Obuma, Bush or anyone else. We must either put aside our differences and come together as Americans or give up being anything but slaves.
 
It's not Bush's or Obuma's fault really. Not the Repub's or Demo's either. Fact is, this started a long time ago. It encompasses both Repeb's and Demo's, it has control of our jobs (lack of jobs) our income, health care and that of the worlds now.

The fake war on terror, the fake war on drugs and so on, are just more things used to keep us frightened and under control. Keep us fighting among ourselves and to most of all, keep the people from working together to save our country, rights and our very lives.

The politicians in this country are completely owned and operated but the corporate structure running this world into the ground. That includes corporations, big unions, big banks and so on.

That being said, we cannot count on our own government to help us anymore. It is high time to stop pointing fingers at Obuma, Bush or anyone else. We must either put aside our differences and come together as Americans or give up being anything but slaves.

Completely agree. There are many people on this board that will also agree with you but then turn around and express hatred towards people within this country that do not look or act like them. Same people probably think that their opinion is fair and play no part in the actual problem, but in my opinion they couldn't be farther from the truth. Racists, bigots and other narcissistic individuals are playing right into the plan, as hatred and lack of compassion towards each other is the direct opposite of unity.
 
Completely agree. There are many people on this board that will also agree with you but then turn around and express hatred towards people within this country that do not look or act like them. Same people probably think that their opinion is fair and play no part in the actual problem, but in my opinion they couldn't be farther from the truth. Racists, bigots and other narcissistic individuals are playing right into the plan, as hatred and lack of compassion towards each other is the direct opposite of unity.
Unity is never an option..It just won't happen to much distrust ...until or if it all comes to the end of the world then it will be like the omegaman..people of all colors in a town band together.to survive.thats the only way it would happen...:coffee:
 
Clinton was a boss.

Clinton got lucky that the tech boom happened when he was in office as that's really the only time in the past 3 decades where a large portion of the US population saw real income growth. debt has been fueling consumption since the 80's. this low wage model with debt fueling the financial sector at the personal and federal level has proven to be unsustainable.
 
Yes, the system is setup to only allow the bribe-taking sort of person to be president, but that does not absolve Bush or Obama of their actions against the country.

Thinking about a Bush or a Obama is exactly what is wanted. Why do you think they are reporting what kind of beer the man likes to drink? Forget about Bush, forget about Obama, its not about them it's about us.

We are the people you deal with day to day, we are the people that might save your life one day, we are the people that return your lost wallet with all the money still in it. Believe that and you will have a positive influence. being mean and cold-hearted because that's how everybody else is, is a cheap cop-out, not to mention it is VERY un-christian (for those who that matters to). We already agree that who is in office doesn't matter. A country is built, rebuilt, fixed and improved from only one direction, the ground up.
 
Unity is never an option..It just won't happen to much distrust ...until or if it all comes to the end of the world then it will be like the omegaman..people of all colors in a town band together.to survive.thats the only way it would happen...:coffee:

Unity is very much an option. You might have never seen it but then again I suspect you haven't seen much outside your bird cage. You don't need trust to unite, trust would help but is not needed. Only thing you need to trust is that you yourself will do the right thing.

This is the problem to many people have, they expect certain things from certain people and once that doesn't happen everything is ruined. Trust yourself, that's the only logical option. Compassion is infectious, very infectious.
 
Unity is very much an option. You might have never seen it but then again I suspect you haven't seen much outside your bird cage. You don't need trust to unite, trust would help but is not needed. Only thing you need to trust is that you yourself will do the right thing.

This is the problem to many people have, they expect certain things from certain people and once that doesn't happen everything is ruined. Trust yourself, that's the only logical option. Compassion is infectious, very infectious.

Son i was in the army.So i know what trust is...thats real trust...:coffee::coffee:
 
The "bird cage" phrase was not meant as an insult. People usually live sheltered all their life but form opinions as if they have any facts but from their surroundings.
 
Been all arount this planet seen talked and killed the people and its been a good time:coffee: true a birdcage is not leaving outside you state.:coffee:
 
You saying we all need to join the Army or what :hmmm:

Because they don't want me...
 
Been all arount this planet seen talked and killed the people and its been a good time:coffee: true a birdcage is not leaving outside you state.:coffee:

Yes but not only that, you can move your birdcage lol. I know people that where stationed around the world and have little to no knowledge of the people there or their culture but then I know others that made it a mission to get to know and try to understand the different peopl. The difference in the two is huge. I don't know you so I can't call you either or but I hope it taught you something.... other than killing and fucking ladyboys is fun :winkfinger:
 
if you need An And..then you'll never get it..:coffee:

i was simply asking what your point was, we didn't disagree on what trust was. We disagreed on weather it was needed to bring people together, but you gave me a definition of trust rather than it's purpose/the need for it.
 
Hijacked another thread, my bad.
 
Been all arount this planet seen talked and killed the people and its been a good time:coffee: true a birdcage is not leaving outside you state.:coffee:

being in the military and being out of country is not even remotely similar when you are there on vacation or working, etc....it's apples and oranges
 
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We are the people you deal with day to day, we are the people that might save your life one day, we are the people that return your lost wallet with all the money still in it. Believe that and you will have a positive influence. being mean and cold-hearted because that's how everybody else is, is a cheap cop-out, not to mention it is VERY un-christian (for those who that matters to). We already agree that who is in office doesn't matter. A country is built, rebuilt, fixed and improved from only one direction, the ground up.
This is a bit ambiguous, so I'm gonna need clarification.
 
I voted for Bush in 2000. I voted for Obama in 2008. Apparently I'm a fucking retard, and a glutton for punishment, so I won't be voting again. Nothing surprises me anymore.
 
I voted for Bush in 2000. I voted for Obama in 2008. Apparently I'm a fucking retard, and a glutton for punishment, so I won't be voting again. Nothing surprises me anymore.
i stayed home and smoked meth and speedballed:coffee:
 
Like DGG said, the legal ones.
:coffee:On a sidenote.I'm happy to say all the mexicans lost the houses they bought near my house in Paradise valley.My parents say the block is all white now..Well done Az well done..:coffee:
 
Very fucking nice! :clapping:
indeed most are from cali but now i'm the only tanned home owner in 5 block..the thing that got me most was 20 people living in the house they would pool the money to get a big nice house and turn it 3rd world with crappy cars and non-english speakers:coffee:
 
indeed most are from cali but now i'm the only tanned home owner in 5 block..the thing that got me most was 20 people living in the house they would pool the money to get a big nice house and turn it 3rd world with crappy cars and non-english speakers:coffee:

I lived in a neighborhood that was all white for 3 years with no problems. Then at least 2 Mexican families moved into one house. I had a bike, a snow shovel, and a sled stolen.

Care to guess who was the only house in 4 square blocks that has cars in various states of repair in front of their house?

I really do like the precedent that Arizona is setting for everyone else. When the others states see the benefits that they reap from ousting the illegals, other states will follow. Many others are already passing laws and have more planned.
 
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