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KentDog

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Hey everyone, I'm relatively new to prohormones and anabolics altogether. I was wondering what would be a good first cycle for gaining mass and if a post cycle of anything (to keep test levels normal) is necessary. I was considering M1T, 1AD / 4AD / Andro. What do you guys think? Is M1T hard to get? Diet will be clean and very high cal.
 
hey man,

as you mentioned in your pm, i cycled m1t for 9 days about 3 weeks ago. i respond really well to the stuff so i like to keep the cycles short to keep the sides away. i gained, honestly, 12 pounds in the 9 days. of course, this includes water weight, but m1t has always kicked ass for me. 20 mg/day, one in the am and one pm. i would recommend starting at 10 mg/day just to make sure that the sides arent going to be a problem. mine are basically non-existant until i get into weeks 3 and 4.

ive never cycled anything other than m1t, and i dont know how hard it is to get it - mine is still left over from the pre-ban era. i have enough to last me to probably about 20 more lbs of lean mass gain, maybe 30 if i do it well. i find that the biggest gains are at the beginning of the cycle; i think two 2-week cycles are better than one 4-week cycle.

at this point, you might just want to go to full-blown injectables if you can find it. m1t is just as illegal, more expensive, and less effective.

and for pct, you ALWAYS should use it. if you dont, you will get fat and lose almost everything. trust me. i use nolva for pct - 1 week at 60mg/day, 1 week at 40mg/day, then two weeks at 20mg/day. just put it in your drink when you wake up.

i dont know what you can use at the moment - if you want legal, try superdrol. its being discontinued, so you would want to hurry up. i may just grab some myself yet because im not ready to try injectables. http://www.bulknutrition.com/?products_id=2041. most people say that it works, so i figure since i respond so well to m1t that i should respond to superdrol. i think 1-4 AD is still legal, too...
 
DimebagDarrell said:
m1t is just as illegal, more expensive, and less effective.

and with several times the side effects of test
 
Thanks for the response guys! I'm having a hard time finding this stuff.. I can get 1-AD and 6oxo. Is 6oxo any good for PCT? Or should I try to find Nolva? Do any of you guys know anything about D-Bol? And what is Test E and Cyp? I have not heard of them. Tough Old Man, can you describe your gains from using them?

What is a reasonable price for these anabolics? I have heard 1-AD sells around $100 a bottle (for a 4-week cycle). Is this a good price, or is the guy just trying to rip me off?
 
KentDog said:
Thanks for the response guys! I'm having a hard time finding this stuff.. I can get 1-AD and 6oxo. Is 6oxo any good for PCT? Or should I try to find Nolva? Do any of you guys know anything about D-Bol? And what is Test E and Cyp? I have not heard of them. Tough Old Man, can you describe your gains from using them?

What is a reasonable price for these anabolics? I have heard 1-AD sells around $100 a bottle (for a 4-week cycle). Is this a good price, or is the guy just trying to rip me off?
Look before anyone decides to jump onto the gear wagon, they need to have enough knowledge to prevent him or her from killing themselves. Steroids is not something to take lightly. I'd suggest you go to http://www.steroid.com/main.php and look for Steroid profiles. Spend a lot of time there researching and then come back and ask questions. I'm telling you for god sake to obtain all the knowledge you can before injecting. I'm sorry I could help you but I refuse. Sorry as I'm not trying to be mean but want you to re-think your postition first. Man your in college and know how to study or you wouldn't be there. So now you have another class. Enjoy

Tough
 
Yeah, I definately agree with you. Just so you know, I'm not planning on taking any gear for months from now; I'm doing my research now. I would just like to know everyone's opinion on what has worked best for them first. If I didn't care I wouldn't be asking questions. But sorry, I do realize that most of my questions are very newbie questions and can be annoying.
 
Also, I only asked about the 1-AD and 6-oxo because they are the most easily obtainable for me at the moment. And I asked about the price because the only info I can find on the pricing is for stuff pre-ban. I figured you guys could help me out on that.
 
KentDog said:
Do any of you guys know anything about D-Bol? And what is Test E and Cyp? I have not heard of them. Tough Old Man, can you describe your gains from using them?
My friend you did ask about other info. Here it is! I'm not worried about new people asking questions as that's what this forum is all about. This does not bother me.
 
:confused: I never said I didn't. I was merely stating the reason why I was asking about 1-AD and 6-oxo (at the moment, they are probably the frontrunners due to attainability). Anyway, good looking out Tough. It is true that a lot of people are taking supplements without any researching prior, therefore taking them unsafely.

I will continue to do research, however, in the meantime, I would still appreciate any input on my questions from anyone who has used anabolics.
 
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KentDog, I would go with what tough said. But as far as my input goes, I did my research for about 8 months and decided to go with test e (testosterone enanthate) at 500 mg a week. I do two injections per week, each one 250 mg, one Monday morning and one thursday evening. I plan to run it 12 weeks followed by Nolva for pct. 12 weeks is too long for some, its up to you. I split my injections to keep blood levels more stable. This is my first cycle and I will post my gains at the end and after pct. Good luck researching.
 
doeslayer said:
KentDog, I would go with what tough said. But as far as my input goes, I did my research for about 8 months and decided to go with test e (testosterone enanthate) at 500 mg a week. I do two injections per week, each one 250 mg, one Monday morning and one thursday evening. I plan to run it 12 weeks followed by Nolva for pct. 12 weeks is too long for some, its up to you. I split my injections to keep blood levels more stable. This is my first cycle and I will post my gains at the end and after pct. Good luck researching.
:thumb: :clapping:
 
I figured I may as well repeat here what I said in your PM, because other people should hear it, too:

Using 6-oxo after a hard cycle is like putting Honda Civic brakes on a Porsche 911 GT2.

Stick with the good stuff (nolva), it's just as easy to find, cheaper, and more effective.
 
hey pirate from hell you still out there some where got a?
 
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