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Red bull

Originally posted by sara
http://www.needmorestuff.com/redbull2.htm

how does the ingredient sound?


Originally posted by Spottieottie
I heard of things on the news about people dying when drinking alcohol and red bull. Probably very rare but it can happen

"Once again, the media never let the facts get in the way of selling a story. The caffeine content in a can of Red Bull is 80 milligrams. A brewed cup of coffee (6-8 ounces) has 100 milligrams of caffeine. So you'd easily get more caffeine from 3 or 4 good espressos than even 10 cans of Red bull. People sitting in cafes across the world are not dropping dead.

Taurine is a sulfur containing nonessential amino acid formed from methionine within the body. It is actually one of he most abundant free form amino acid in human milk. Since 1984 taurine has been added to infant formulations, which suggests as a single amino acid it must be safe and plays a vital role in growth and metabolism.

Dietary sources of taurine occur in animal foods, it is virtually nonexistent in plant foods. The "massive" dose of taurine in one can of Red Bull that every one is concerned about is 1 gram. That's right, one lousy, freakin gram!

You can not tell me that your average 200 pound bodybuilder that easily consumes over 400 grams of animal protein every single day, would not have a higher intake of taurine! Come on! Where do these people get their information? I suppose you don't have to have a long neck to be a goose!

Combining taurine and caffeine with large amounts of alcohol may be a different story. However, this caffeine, high protein/taurine and alcohol mix has surely been replicated in various other dietary circumstances by many hundreds of thousands of people all over the planet at some stage. Have there been deaths reported previously documenting this cocktail?

Am I the only one that has to point out the obvious?

Where and by whom are these large amounts of Red Bull drinks consumed? Where had each of these people been previously before their deaths? Rave parties!

Now, what's the other little thing that people like to pop at rave parties?

But adding this to equation of these unfortunate deaths makes too much sense doesn't it? And grieving, angry family members of those that died, desperately want someone or something to blame. No body would like to hear that their little angle liked popping street drugs on weekends."
 
Nice post, ah1...well said.

I drop 4 grams of taurine in my gatorade pre-workout, and pop a 100-200mg. of caffeine...and horror of horrors, I even drink a few beers on occasion.

But I don't eat mad amounts of MDMA and LSD and then dance for 12 hours straight, and then drink red bull as my only source of fluid, so my chances of Red Bull death are 0.

I'll bet there was a drug OD at a rave, a reporter came through and saw an empty can of red bull on the floor, and Voila, the urban legend is born.

"No way--all we were doing was drinking red bull, eating candy, and inhaling Vicks Vapo-Rub because it gives us fresh breath...I didn't see any drugs here, officer"

If you guys are scared of Red Bull f'in you up, you really better stay far away from all of the Thermogenics on the market!
 
Yea well this isn't too recent but I did find an article of the three people who have died supposedly of the use of red bull and alcohol.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/1435409.stm
I didn't stop drinking it because of this "scare". I just can't stand the taste of it.
 
out of the millions of sales of red bull and only three deaths, it's not very likely that red bull killed them. I just wanted to point out that these people were not at raves so they could not have been taking ectasy. I'm sure you could find many articles supporting the use of it or not supporting the use of it. This is the same with any thing like cigarettes.
 
media does a good job at blowing things out of proportion
 
Thanks for the article, Spottie.

Not drinking it at dance parties?

so they could not have been taking ectasy.

From the article:

One woman, named only as Therese, 31, collapsed on the floor of a nightclub in March this year.

Sounds like a drug overdose to me, and MDMA is by far the most popular club drug, and even more so in Europe.

As far as safety:

Last year, one billion cans of Red Bull were bought worldwide.
 
o sorry not millions, billions.
 
believe me when i tell you, I am not condemning alcohol, or drinking, or Red Bull, or anything like that. however, I am sayin that all those Red Bull and Vodka drinkers please be weary. I am bartender and have been for quite a while (4years) and i have served and drank PLENTY of RedBulls and Vodka. But i stopped drinking them after i witnessed a few bad experiences. The paramedics that were on each of the scenes likened the incidents to the same side effects they have treated for speed-ball patients. Explained easily as, redbull is a stimulant that arises both heart rate and awareness. Alcohol is a depressant that lowers inhibitions and weakens receptors. When the two are combined, they do not balance nor cancel each others effects. In fact they actually both work to effect the body the way they do at the same time. Meaning, people feel dizzy, laughy, happy, pumped, etc. because their energy level is spiking and their neuro-receptors are numb. Soooo, people can feel like they are not being slowed by the alcohol, but then again, they also feel invincible... this combo can be very dangerous if practiced in excess... Just be careful people.
 
And you're sure these people who passed out weren't on any other drugs?

So how many drinks were these people drinking and how drunk were they when they passed out? What happened--heat exhaustion? Vomitting? Passing out? All of this happens to people who drink too much of any alcoholic beverage. Here in Chicago I see it at least once a month, and it doesn't even surprise me anymore.

I'm not disputing your experience at all, and I agree, it COULD be like a speedball (although that's a horrible comparison if you know what a real speedball is), but I think we're talking about some very heavy drinking to go to the level of needing real medical treatment (beyond some fluids and ressurance that "yes, ma'am, you are wasted and fell on the floor.")

If Red Bull itself was so dangerous, how come we don't have reports of people who are addicted to LAN tournaments and online gaming, who buy Red Bull and Monster by the CASE and drink in excess of four-five cans a day-->why aren't they just falling over dead?

You know, I threw up one time after drinking red bull and vodka, but I also drank about 50 other things, and never once thought it was the RB and Vodka...I pretty much thought it was ME being a dumbass.

I still think it's the alcohol that's hurting these people. You only get about half a red bull in a RB&vodka anyways.

Who would WANT to drink more than a couple? I think only the truly foolish are getting ill on these.

Red bull is pisswater compare to ANYTHING people on this board take for a rush, if you want to talk stimulants. Let alone the stuff they sell in my gym's vending machines.

Also, there is almost as much caffeine in Coke, and people seem to do fine on Whiskey and Coke (provided they aren't on a mission to get blasted).

I'm not saying that Red Bull and Vodka is the path to righteousness...I'm saying unless you're a total dumbass, there is absolutely nothing to worry about. A billion satisfied customers say it's alright.
 
didnt think my post was soooo inciting that it would get some worked up... but since it has, i apologize. And just to note, most bars, except the cheap ones i guess in Chicago, do not only serve half can a RedBull with a RB and Vodka. Most serve them in pint glasses(16oz) and a RB is 8oz and it gets a 4 count of Vodka(roughly 2oz)... and the rest is ice. I have served plenty of these to people over time and i wasnt saying that EVERY PERSON WHO HAS MORE THAN A FEW OF THESE is effected the same way... i am saying however, that no two people react the same when exposed to the same things. Not to mention there are always other elements that could effect the equation (i.e. dehydration!!!(side-effect of RedBull), drug abuse, alcoholic imbibement, empty stomach) And also, please note that i make these statements out of concern for the general populous... take my words as you please and just have fun and be careful. :thumb:
 
actually i rather to have a cuppa real coffee instead
 
There is a new, no cal energy drink made with natural herbs. It's not bad at all and gives you quite a jolt. I bought a few at the FAME show...they're called "red ripper"
 
Red bull with vodka is the only way i can chill with my friends and enjoy a party otherwise Im asleep like a hour after i start
 
Isn't alcohol "bad" for a bodybuilder/someone trying to get in shape...?
 
jaim91 said:
Isn't alcohol "bad" for a bodybuilder/someone trying to get in shape...?
Why do you even ask that question? There are alot of "bad" things for people. Its alright to drink every once in awhile. When it becomes everyday its a problem.
 
No, but some people drink Red Bull very often. So, if they take the reccomendations, and put Jagermeister or vodka in their drinks, then it could be bad,
 
i was once told that red bull/vodka is bad for you a the vodka slows your heart and the red bull speeds it up, is this true?
 
What a bad combination
 
You guys are such babies. You'll risk infection and shruken testicles from injecting steroids, but my GOD, how dare you mix a red bull and vodka..and..GASP...DRINK IT!

Anyone that's worried about keeling over from this "deadly" combo isn't the knid of person that would, so chill out.

Where were you when Liquid Clenbutrx came out? Or Redline?
 
:hehe:
 
brodus said:
You guys are such babies. You'll risk infection and shruken testicles from injecting steroids, but my GOD, how dare you mix a red bull and vodka..and..GASP...DRINK IT!

Anyone that's worried about keeling over from this "deadly" combo isn't the knid of person that would, so chill out.

Where were you when Liquid Clenbutrx came out? Or Redline?
:rofl:

I prefer SF Monster and Vodka :nanner:
 
Yeah, MONSTER is nice! I also like Rockstar.

I actually think an energy drink + a good, clean vodka is about the safest thing you can have without totally ruining your training. The metabolic fx of the Alcohol aren't nearly as bad, from what I can feel and see the next morning.
 
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