rep range & progression question

[fqqs]

if i'm doing for example 4 sets with same weight in 6-10 rep range and my routine says that I should increase weight slightly next workout once I hit upper rep range for all sets

and i did db bench press:

100x10
100x10
100x9
100x8 (last rep with a tad of partner assistance)

then i must wait till I hit 10,10,10,10 reps or can I increase weight only a little bit (smallest increment available) next workout?

to sum up: when my program says 4x6-10 with same weight - can I increase weights if i caompleted ALMOST all planned reps or should i wait until i finish all 10 reps in all 4 sets

or am I ovethinking it and it doesnt matter as long as I put a lot of effort into each set and go close to or to failure ?

 

[brazey]

The key is to lift more (progress) each workout. Lifting more could be more weight, more reps, more sets, etc. So to use your example;

100x10
100x10
100x9
100x8 (last rep with a tad of partner assistance)

Progression could be as small as getting that last set of 8 with no spotter assistance; getting 3 sets of 10 & 1 set of 8, and so on. You can progress any way you like as long as you're enjoying your routine and getting stronger.

 

[exphys88]

I agree with brazey. As long as you're providing some type of overload, whether it be more reps or more weight, you're progressing. If it were me, I'd start throwing in an occasional one set of a little higher weight for one set until I completed all 4 sets at 10 reps for the 100 lb db's. I try not to over think these things, because the end result won't really matter as long as you're overloading.

 

[fqqs]

I'd start throwing in an occasional one set of a little higher weight for one set until I completed all 4 sets at 10 reps for the 100 lb db's.

could you show an example please?

 

[ThreeGigs]

For example, if your target is 4 sets of 90 x 10, you attempt:
100 x 10
90 x 10
90 x 10
90 x 10

In other words, use a heavier weight for just your first or second set.

But, I wouldn't progress until you completed all reps of all sets at your working weight (or above) without assistance. Personally, I know I have good weeks and bad weeks, so I don't add weight until I can do 12 on the last set. example:
90x10
90x10
90x10
90x12

Being able to get those last 2 reps on the last set guarantees I'm ready to add weight.

But, to answer your original question:
Yes, you should wait until you can hit 10, 10, 10, 10 with no assistance.

 

[fqqs]

Ill do as you suggested, ill up weights when i hit upper rep range in ALL sets. either going to failure in last two or in none of them.

but it should not mean i wont lift with great effort in each set, yeah? for example in first two sets i can do slower negatives and "more clean" reps than in last sets. you know what i mean? or is it bad idea?


and another question - is it acceptable to take longer rests between sets as i move to further sets? for example when im fresh 2 minutes between sets in db press suffice. but after a couple of sets i feel like i need to take more time, even up to 3-4 minutes. is that ok or should my rest between sets stay fixed?


and for your info, my routine is:

MONDAY: Squats 5x5-10
Leg Extensions: 3x15
Leg Curls 3x6-10
Stiff leg Deads 4x10

TUESDAY: Incline DB Press 4x6-10
Weighted Dips 4x6-10
Cambered bar Skullcrushers 4x6-10

THURSDAY: Weighted Chins 3x4-6
BB Rows 3x6-8
Deadlifts 3x8-10
Cable rows 3x10-12
BB Curl 4x8-12

FRIDAY: Seated BB Press 3x6
Seated DB Press 2x8-10
Standing Calf Raise 4x10