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NeilPearson said:
Excess protein beyond that can contribute to osteoporosis and can be hard on the kidneys

Glomerular Filitration Rates are raised in all acute(up to a month) and long term studies of high protein diets however there was no changes in urinary albumin from the begining and end.
GFR increased but so did kidney volume(measured via the MRI), GFR expressed per kidney volume didnt change.

Basically It doesnt harm the kidneys in simple terms

Skov AR et al. Int J Obes Relat Metab Disord
1999: 23:1170-77.

The concept of osteoporosis is the whole calcium in vs. calcium out and the acid/alkaline but the diet is already net acidic therefore the milk, broccoli, and protein shakes will supplement the diet with the calcium needed.


Also another thing people forget is the thermic effect of protien. It is 2.5x-3.5x thermic effect then fat or carbs
 
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How about now:

Breakfast:
1/2 cup Oatmeal (cals: 150, protein: 8?)
3 whole Eggs (cals: 240, protein: 21)
Milk (cals: 120, protein: 12)(thats what my milk carton says for 1 cup)
Multivitamin
Glucosamine
.....i cant eat anymore lol and hate egg whites nor do i have enough $$ to go through a box every 2 days but i do buy the healthy omega-3 eggs

Pre-workout:
No-explode - 72cals

Midmorning: POST WORTKOUT
Protein/glutamine shake (protein: 40gs, cals: 200)
Piece of fruit apple, orange, or pear (60cals)
1cap (serving is 3 a day) flax/fish/borage oil supplement -13cals
Almonds - 8 protein ,150 cals

lunch:
Salmon, chicken, or turkey (protein: 40gs, cals: around 400)
Brown rice (150cals, protein?)
1cap (serving is 3 a day) flax/fish/borage oil supplement 13cals

Midafternoon:
Protein/glutamine shake (protein: 40gs, cals: 200)
Piece of fruit apple, orange, or pear (60cals)
1cap (serving is 3 a day) flax/fish/borage oil supplement 13 cals
Maybe 150 cals of almonds

Dinner:
Chicken, ground turkey (protein: 40gs, cals: 400) + cooked in extra virgin olive oil 1T 100cals
Broccoli (120: cals, protein 10g)
1cap (serving is 3 a day) flax/fish/borage oil supplement 13 cals

Late night:
Shake (protein: 22gs, cals: 120)
1 California Avocado (177cals, protein??)
Multivitamin

Cals about 2300
Protein about 250
 
ill throw in some fat free jello if i am having some cravings
 
CRASHMAN said:
Breakfast:
1/2 cup Oatmeal (cals: 150, protein: 8?)
3 whole Eggs (cals: 240, protein: 21)
Milk (cals: 120, protein: 12)(thats what my milk carton says for 1 cup)
Multivitamin
Glucosamine
.....i cant eat anymore lol and hate egg whites nor do i have enough $$ to go through a box every 2 days but i do buy the healthy omega-3 eggs
0.5 cups oats has 5g protein.
3 whole eggs is too much fat in this meal - instead have 1 or 2 whole eggs.
Add some cottage cheese for some more protein if you can't use egg whites.
Is the milk SKIM?? If not - swap to skim.

Pre-workout:
No-explode - 72cals
?? You take 2 doses of this?? Why? You do not need that much...

Midmorning: POST WORTKOUT
Protein/glutamine shake (protein: 40gs, cals: 200)
Piece of fruit apple, orange, or pear (60cals)
1cap (serving is 3 a day) flax/fish/borage oil supplement -13cals
Almonds - 8 protein ,150 cals
Dump the almonds PWO - you DO NOT want fat in this meal.
Take out the oil too... And you should have got just fish oil - the rest is not needed.
Swap the fruit to a banana - those fruits are too high in fructose and fibre.
Increase carbs in this meal eg: skim milk, dextrose, thinly rolled oats.

lunch:
Salmon, chicken, or turkey (protein: 40gs, cals: around 400)
Brown rice (150cals, protein?)
1cap (serving is 3 a day) flax/fish/borage oil supplement 13cals
Add vegetables - eg: 1 or 2 cups of green things
150 cals worth of brown rice has ~3g protein (~0.75 cups)
If you have chicken or turkey you will need to add more fats eg: 1 tbs olive oil

Once again - dump the oil supplement and get PURE fish oils.. Then take 6-8g a day of these.

Midafternoon:
Protein/glutamine shake (protein: 40gs, cals: 200)
Piece of fruit apple, orange, or pear (60cals)
1cap (serving is 3 a day) flax/fish/borage oil supplement 13 cals
Maybe 150 cals of almonds
Have the almonds....
Otherwise this is fine.

Dinner:
Chicken, ground turkey (protein: 40gs, cals: 400) + cooked in extra virgin olive oil 1T 100cals
Broccoli (120: cals, protein 10g)
1cap (serving is 3 a day) flax/fish/borage oil supplement 13 cals
This is good (although 1 tbs oil is ~135 cals).
Same info re the oil supplement...

Late night:
Shake (protein: 22gs, cals: 120)
1 California Avocado (177cals, protein??)
Multivitamin
:grin: You realise that 1 whole avocado is ~200g... which is ~320 cals and 14.5g carbs, 31g fat and 6g protein... You really don't need all of that fat in this one meal.

Take ~100g of avocado and add it to your lunch (with some vegetables!!!) then use those almonds from your PWO shake here instead... 15-20g of fat is fine.

Also - the shake (if it is whey) is a poor option - it is too rapidly digested... Things like cottage cheese (or a casein shake), low-fat hard cheese, eggs, lean meats etc are all better choices.
 
Also - the shake (if it is whey) is a poor option - it is too rapidly digested... Things like cottage cheese (or a casein shake), low-fat hard cheese, eggs, lean meats etc are all better choices.

add muscle milk to that list - i think its a great before bed drink.
 
soxmuscle said:
add muscle milk to that list - i think its a great before bed drink.


Yo, I got some MM yesterday at Vitamin World, they had a sale, 2 jugs for 40 bucks which I thought was good.
 
ANCAM said:
Lose the milk and try to work out a routine with exercising, when you get on a routine it helps your metabolism and your body adjusts to the change in food intake.

Are dairy products really bad? i dunno i intake alot of dairy, have milk with my shakes , have cheese with my sandwiches eat cottage cheese... i am currently bulking.. so to much dairy?
 
gogo said:
Are dairy products really bad? i dunno i intake alot of dairy, have milk with my shakes , have cheese with my sandwiches eat cottage cheese... i am currently bulking.. so to much dairy?
Dairy is fine. Drink your milk.
 
BigDyl said:
Yo, I got some MM yesterday at Vitamin World, they had a sale, 2 jugs for 40 bucks which I thought was good.

definitly a great price - next time i buy supps in the next week or so, i'm going to be buying some muscle milk. i love the stuff.
 
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