Rock's Diet for Jodi

[Jodi]

Weight 1/16/05- 219.7
Weight 1/20/05- 215.8
Weight 1/24/05- 217
Weight 1/27/05- 214.4

Jodi, is this progressing alright, too fast or not fast enough? The weigh days have been after No carb days. Between 1/20 and today I really only lost 1.4lbs.

Looks good

 

[Rocco32]

Looks good

Oh, I didn't see this. Thanks Jodi.

Another question. Today is supposed to be high carb and legs, but I woke up sick with sore throat so no work or gym. Should it be No Carb again then?

 

[Jodi]

Make it a LC day.

 

[Rocco32]

K, thanks Jodi.

 

[Rocco32]

1/27/04 Low Carb

Alright, not the best meals. Didn't find out it would be low carb until after my first meal. Didn't feel good so not alot of food, and had some bread as comfort food

Meal 1- 40g protein, 1tbsp PB

Meal 2- 1 can tuna, Cheese, 1tbsp Mayo, 2 slices Grain Bread

Meal 3- 4oz chicken, 1 cup rice, 5 fish oil

Meal 4- 4oz Salmon, 1 mushroom cap

Meal 5- 1 cup CC, 1TBSP PB

 

[Rocco32]

1/28/04 Normally No Carb

Again, a bit messed up today. Normally No Carb but still not feeling best so didn't think I should COMPLETELY cut carbs out today. Only one meal with carbs. Would have had some prew/o but didn't decide on this until after I already had my meal.

Meal 1 Pre w/o- 40g protein, 1tbsp PB

Meal 2 Post w/o- 40g protein, 1/3 apple, 1 cup oats

Meal 3- 4 oz chicken, 1/2 cup FF CC, 5 fish oil

Meal 4- 1 Can Tuna, FF Cheese, walnuts, 1tsp mayo, 5 fish oil

Meal 5- 40g protein, 5 fish oil

Meal 6- Steak, mushroom cap

Meal 7- 1 cup CC, 5 fish oil

 

[Rocco32]

Weight 1/16/05- 219.7
Weight 1/20/05- 215.8
Weight 1/24/05- 217
Weight 1/27/05- 214.4

Today:
Weight 2/2/05 - 217.4

WTF?!?!? I have not cheated and I've been following the diet to a T. None of the foods I enjoy like tomatoes or sauces. I even cut my PB intake to 1tbsp a day and use fish oil mostly for the rest of the meals. WHY IS MY WEIGHT UP almost to what it was when I started a month ago?!?

Sorry but I just don't think Carb Cycling is for me, I'm going to look into some other diets but this just kinda feels like last year all over again except worse.

 

[Velvet]

When I was carb cycling rocky, my weight cycled too seriously...Are you weighing yourself on the same type of day (ie after no carb day)?

 

[Rocco32]

When I was carb cycling rocky, my weight cycled too seriously...Are you weighing yourself on the same type of day (ie after no carb day)?

Yep, always on Thursday after my No Carb day. I have the same routine to make sure the conditions are the same.

 

[Jodi]

So go to an isocaloric diet. Your training is different now which could also have a HUGE affect on your weight.

 

[Rocco32]

So go to an isocaloric diet. Your training is different now which could also have a HUGE affect on your weight.

Your probably right, no in fact I know your right. Your Jodi I was thinking the same thing, trying to put something together. What is the standard or rule with "cheating" on a isocaloric diet?

 

[tucker01]

What is the standard or rule with "cheating" on a isocaloric diet?

I can't believe you are asking this question Rock

You are training for a Show right..................you know the answer

Personally I think you should stick with it. It was only one week with an increase many things can factor into that

 

[Jodi]

I'm not always right Rock but look at it logically. You just made a huge training change. It shocks your body and this is a good thing but give it a few days. Don't change everything at once and have a little patience.

And if you are serious about competeing, there is no such thing as cheating.

 

[naturaltan]

And if you are serious about competeing, there is no such thing as cheating.

and that's the reason folks that compete are a special breed ... they are able to overcome the need to cheat. It's a tough road Rock ... I know I couldn't do it.

 

[P-funk]

1) yeah, I agree. your body needs to adjust to the diffenerent changes that are happening. Who cares if your weight is up 3lbs??? I mean on acrb cycling you could be holding water form a high carb day. trust me, you did not gain 3lbs of fat in one week!!

2) how much water are you drinking a day?

3) cycling carbs and cycling calories are great. i use these techniques when i have to during my contest prep. But the thing is I look back at some of your posts before the one about your weight and I see this:

Again, a bit messed up today. Normally No Carb but still not feeling best so didn't think I should COMPLETELY cut carbs out today. Only one meal with carbs.

Alright, not the best meals. Didn't find out it would be low carb until after my first meal. Didn't feel good so not alot of food, and had some bread as comfort food

When not performed properly..NO diet works!!!!!!

You need to get with the plan and stick with the plan. If you are looking to compete in June (about 17 weeks out) there is no reason that I should see things like.....Um, had bread.....messed up today. be serious and get the program together.

Failling to plan is planning to fail.

 

[Rocco32]

I can't believe you are asking this question Rock

You are training for a Show right..................you know the answer

Personally I think you should stick with it. It was only one week with an increase many things can factor into that

I knew I could count on you to jump on me LOL!

No, but seriously. I'm fine with not cheating, the reason I asked is I've just been confused after reading the article about Leptin. I know High carb days are what spill over into leptin but if I'm not doing that diet then what do I do differently to not slow my progress. Does that make sense?!?

 

[Rocco32]

I'm not always right Rock but look at it logically. You just made a huge training change. It shocks your body and this is a good thing but give it a few days. Don't change everything at once and have a little patience.

And if you are serious about competeing, there is no such thing as cheating.

I hope you don't think I was being sarcastic Jodi, I was just kidding around and I hope you know how much I think of everything you say and suggest. So do you suggest I stay with Carb cycling awhile longer?!? I just felt extremely frustrated this morning when I weighed and it was up 3 lbs and I felt I looked fat in the mirror. It does freak me out a bit because while I may have a slice of bread here or whatever, I eat a million times better than I used to (excluding the comp last year of course) and don't understand why I seem stuck at this weight range. I'm just getting frustrated.

 

[Rocco32]

and that's the reason folks that compete are a special breed ... they are able to overcome the need to cheat. It's a tough road Rock ... I know I couldn't do it.

Thanks NT. And I will overcome the need to cheat, just want to know my options you know

 

[Rocco32]

1) yeah, I agree. your body needs to adjust to the diffenerent changes that are happening. Who cares if your weight is up 3lbs??? I mean on acrb cycling you could be holding water form a high carb day. trust me, you did not gain 3lbs of fat in one week!!
I realize I didn't gain 3lbs of fat in one week, but maybe I did gain 1lb and the rest is water, that's still disdaining to me.

2) how much water are you drinking a day?
I usually drink 1.5 gallons of water, including what's in my shakes and w/o drink.

3) cycling carbs and cycling calories are great. i use these techniques when i have to during my contest prep. But the thing is I look back at some of your posts before the one about your weight and I see this:






When not performed properly..NO diet works!!!!!!

You need to get with the plan and stick with the plan. If you are looking to compete in June (about 17 weeks out) there is no reason that I should see things like.....Um, had bread.....messed up today. be serious and get the program together.

Alright, your totally right here. My fault.

Failling to plan is planning to fail.
Your right with that quote to. I need to set more serious guidelines. I was kinda of testing the water so to speak and wasn't being specific enough with my questions to Jodi but I realized today that if I lose 2lbs a week, it will take me roughly 16 weeks to get into the shape I want for the competition. Doesn't leave alot of room for error huh. I'm ready to plan

I put my responses up above in bold.

 

[Jodi]

I hope you don't think I was being sarcastic Jodi, I was just kidding around and I hope you know how much I think of everything you say and suggest. So do you suggest I stay with Carb cycling awhile longer?!? I just felt extremely frustrated this morning when I weighed and it was up 3 lbs and I felt I looked fat in the mirror. It does freak me out a bit because while I may have a slice of bread here or whatever, I eat a million times better than I used to (excluding the comp last year of course) and don't understand why I seem stuck at this weight range. I'm just getting frustrated.

Yes stick with it. You need to learn some patience Rock. We can tweak your diet more in a few weeks but for now let it be. You DO NOT need to refeed while you are carb cycling. That is what high carb days are for and besides, your refeeds would look juust like high carb days because competition refeeds are all clean, not bagels and such.

 

[P-funk]

you may of gained 1lb of muscle also. you never know. just stick to it.

 

[Rocco32]

Yes stick with it. You need to learn some patience Rock. We can tweak your diet more in a few weeks but for now let it be. You DO NOT need to refeed while you are carb cycling. That is what high carb days are for and besides, your refeeds would look juust like high carb days because competition refeeds are all clean, not bagels and such.

Alright, I'll stick with it. And I know I need to learn patience, sorry about the freakout. I'll try to be better So here is my training split now Jodi, what do you suggest for diet break-up for this split? -

Day 1- Chest/Back
Day 2- Legs
Day 3- Off
Day 4- Shoulder/Arms/Traps
Day 5- Off
Day 6- Chest/Back
Day 7- Legs
Day 8- Off

and on and on...

 

[Rocco32]

you may of gained 1lb of muscle also. you never know. just stick to it.

Your right, I hope I did Well, I'm going to have a pizza and some chinese food tonight and then start tomorrow.

 

[Rocco32]

Your right, I hope I did Well, I'm going to have a pizza and some chinese food tonight and then start tomorrow.

J/K

 

[Jodi]

Alright, I'll stick with it. And I know I need to learn patience, sorry about the freakout. I'll try to be better So here is my training split now Jodi, what do you suggest for diet break-up for this split? -

Day 1- Chest/Back High
Day 2- Legs Low
Day 3- Off No
Day 4- Shoulder/Arms/Traps Low
Day 5- Off No
Day 6- Chest/Back High
Day 7- Legs Low
Day 8- Off No

and on and on...

See above.

 

[Rocco32]

Great, Thank you Jodi.

 

[Rocco32]

2/3/05 Low Carb

Meal 1 Pre w/o- 1Tbsp PB, 40g protein, 1 cup oats, 1/3 apple

Meal 2 Post w/o- 40g protein, 1 cup oats, 1/3 apple

Meal 3- 1 cup rice, 4oz chicken, 1/3 apple, 5 fish oil

Meal 4- 1 can tuna, mustard, cheese, walnuts, 5 fish oil

Meal 5- 40g protein, 5 fish oil

Meal 6- 6oz chicken, veggies, 5 fish oil

Meal 7- 1 cup CC, 1TBSP PB

 

[Rocco32]

Alright, a few questions-

1. I buy my chicken from Safeway. I wait until it's close to the expiration date then buy it in bulk super cheap. Anyway, I just read the label and it says Boneless, Skinless Breast with Rib Meat, enhanced with up to 15% solution. Solution ingredients- water, salt and sodium phosphate. Is this fine for me or not?

2. I've been marinating my meats in different marinades from the grocery store. I always picked the ones with very low sugar. Is that fine for now or should I cut that out completely also.

3. I have probably 1/4 serving of cheese a day in my Tuna. It's Bistro blend and not high fat. I use very little, just some for taste. Do I need to cut that out or not?

4. I found lowfat Turkey Kielbasa (2.5g fat). Is it alright every now and then (like 1-3oz) to supplement that with my meal when I have "cravings". Just the taste seems to satisfy me.

5. Should I be watching my sodium intake right now or not?

I think that's it for now Thanks Jodi.

 

[Jodi]

1. Fine for now.
2. Competition diet - then that means Nope, use dry, low sodium seasonings like Mrs. Dash only. You can also use chili pepper, chipotle, garlic etc. Just not those packets.
3. No dairy allowed in competition dieting - I know it's strict but it's the way it goes.
4. Do I really need to answer this one?
5. Just don't overload your food with sodium. Don't add salt to foods but don't worry too much about the sodium in foods right now.

 

[Rocco32]

Alright, that helps out alot Jodi. Thank you, I think : LOL