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i went to the doctor again yesterday. he said in about 1.5 weeks i will have another blood test done to determine tsh levels and will adjust armour medication accordingly. In the meantime, I am being referred to a detoxification doctor who will help me in cleansing my body of all the heavy metals, especially lead, I have unknowingly and unexplainably accumulated over my life.that's about all i can do right now...
 
lead??

did they say how you got a dangerous amount in your blood system??
 
I am glad you are finally getting the proper treatment. Once you get those metals out of our body it will give your body a better chance to rebalance itself. I may be joining you in detox as well.
 
P-funk said:
lead??

did they say how you got a dangerous amount in your blood system??
nope..no idea whatsoever..
 
just went to my dr today and we discuseed certain varaibles that are contributing factors when dieting

Test ran
CBC
metabolic panel
plasma zinc
plasma copper
serum ceruoplasm - enzyme produced by copper if it is high then copper is high
alkaline phophatase - enzyme produced by zinc
homocysteine levels - incator of folic acid, zinc, b-6, b-12
cholsterol
full thyroid
testosterone
igf-1
dhea
pregnolone
cortisol AM
PTH - parathroid hormone tell if any calcium metabolism problems
vitamin D

I seem to think i am not copper defienct other wise ferritin levels would be on the low end and they are fine. I know I am zinc deficient 741 (700-1200) dr wants me at 1100




1. too much oatmeal - binds to other minerals (zinc iron magnesium,calcium)
2. over sexual activity - reduces zinc and selenium through ejaculation
3. Over traning and cardio - reduce zinc through sweating
4. Steroids - reduce zinc (needed to build muscle at fast rate)
5. Dextrose postworkout - strips body of zinc and several minerals
6. Stress at work
7. Reducing red meat intake -reduced zinc
8. increasing protein = increase demand for enzymes produced by zinc
9. caffine before breakfast = strips minerals as well

as you can see just by not absorbing right nutrients I was setting my self up for makjor problems. Zinc deficiency lead to hypothyroid stressing the adrenals causing them to lower testosterone and eventually burn out leaving and imbalance of more copper to zinc and possible more heavy metals such as cadnium, aluminum,mercury, lead. i will find this out next week when I do the piss test to find out. But thing pisses me off was that all the indicators where there along time ago and nothing was done!!
 
Did either of you go to a sports doctor? Someone who works with athletes? I think that may have been the problem since general practitioners are so used to dealing with the general population and not high performance machines like bodybuilders they probably don't get too many cases like these, most of their problems are fatasses with high cholesterol, blood pressure, sodium etc..
 
P-funk said:
lead??

did they say how you got a dangerous amount in your blood system??
Hate to sound mean Oak but did you eat paint chips as a child?:p

Maybe the water pipes in his home or work place are old lead or have lead fittings? If at work he may have been ingesting a lot more than his fellow employees and suffered sooner since the average Joe doesn't drink alot of water.
 
I wish you the best of luck oaktownboy :)
 
I was thinking the paint chips too! :lol: If you have lead poisoning than when you are detoxed you should feel a lot better! The lead has probably caused all of your problems. That sux. Glad they finally found it. Maniclion, you are right on the same track as I am!! Good luck to you oaktown!
 
thx
 
Gustin,
I had a just feeling it might have been some yeast infection involved mainly from high protein diets and causing acid to the body. Also to add invaiable of caffine, ephederine major sweating and training and you are looking at mineral defciency mainly potassium which if that goes low it messes up with cellular nutrient transport so you may be absorbing your food but its not getting to the cells. I am going to go soon and have an RBC blood potassium level check because when I added up my precontest diet I was only getting 2000 mgs of potassium a day and with caffine ephederine 3 times a day for 12 weeks and heavy cardio with traning that is no where near enough to be sufficent. I needed more like 5000-8000 grams a day to compensate for the loss. I am absorbing all my minerals but they are not getting transported into the cell. I did an experminet thinking it was sodium I was low on and that was a mjor mistake. I almost ending up at the hospital becuase it caused m heart to race and profuse sweating. MY fever shoot up to 104
 
new doctor has me on antibiotics and i am starting chelation of heavy metals thursday..he's also requesting more blood tests..he thinks there's a good possibility i have Lyme's DIsease..don't ask how i could have acquired it...no idea..but he said it would explain for the heat, lack of energy, lack of minerals/vitamins, skin turning purple..he also pointed out that my feet are swelling..again i have no idea why they would be..i don't go out running or long walking..will give another update after detox session..pz
 
I hope you dont have lime disease(AKA rocky mountain fever). Do you live near a wooded area? Ever notice any ticks?
 
i live in oakland bruh...lol..no woods..just dirty streets..haha...i do have a dog that sometimes picks up ticks when I take her to the bay.
 
Just wondering, because Lime Disease is caused by infected ticks(usually deer). Not sure if you knew or not.
 
yeah i knew which is why it's so hard to comprehend me having it..
 
And drs just wanted to give you anti depressants and I am so glad that you did not go that route. Lyme disease if not detected could have ended up into multiple sclorsis becuase that is what my brother has from it. He had a lesion at base of his spine and skull and over years it became 2 more and they grew. So I am glad that you caught it and get to route cause of things.
 
Two girls I know just found out they had lyme disease. They have just been tired all the time and couldn't do much at all.. Now they're going to start heavy antibiotics to try to get rid of it. They didn't have any GI symptoms though, which you have seemed to have.
 
im not saying i have lyme disease for sure..it's just a strong possibility..i still need a few blood tests run to confirm it...
 
This is the best source of LYme disease information and I have worked personally with dr. Burrascano and find this site immensly informative. (ILADS ) Scroll down and see if you fit the symptoms. I have a few patients with neurological lyme's and have worked with him personally with them. Super nice guy.

http://www.ilads.org/burrascano_1102.htm

Lyme disease is still a clinical diagnosis because of the pitfalls of testing. I've had to confirm lyme's using the Bowen test.

The ELISA test is unreliable, and misses 35% of culture proven Lyme (only 65% sensitivity!) and is unacceptable as the first step of a two step screening protocol. (By definition a screening test should have 95% sensitivity.)


Of patients with acute culture proven Lyme disease, 20-30% remain seronegative on serial Western Blot sampling. Antibody titers also appear to decline over time; thus, the IgG Western Blot is even less sensitive in detecting chronic Lyme infection yet the IgM Western Blot may work. For "epidemiological purposes" the CDC eliminated from the Western Blot analysis the reading of bands 31 and 34. These bands are so specific to Borrelia burgdorferi that they have been chosen for vaccine development. However, for patients not vaccinated for Lyme, a positive 31 or 34 band is highly indicative of Borrelia burgdorferi exposure.


When used as a part of a diagnostic evaluation for Lyme disease, the Western Blot should be performed by a laboratory that reads and reports on all 16 bands as part of their routine comprehensive analysis. Laboratories (such as SmithKline) that use FDA approved kits (for instance, Mardex's Marblot) are restricted from reporting all of the bands, as they must abide by the rules of the manufacturer. These rules are set up in accordance with the CDCs surveillance criteria. and increase the risk of false negative results. These kits may be OK for surveillance purposes, but offer too scanty of an analysis to be useful in patient management.


PCR assay and detection of pieces of the spirochete through antigen assays both give stronger indication of the presence of the Lyme pathogen; but currently these tests don???t conclusively prove that live Bb spirochete are present and causing active illness. PCR tests are now available, and although they are very specific, sensitivity remains poor, possibly less than 30%. This is because Bb causes a deep tissue infection and is only transiently found in body humors. Therefore, just as in routine blood culturing, multiple specimens must be collected to increase yield; a negative result does not rule out infection, but a positive one is significant.

5. Bowen "Rapid Identification of Borrelia burgdorferi" (RIBb). The Bb antigen is identified by the presence of fluorescing structures upon microscopy. At Bowen Research & Training Institute, Inc., located in Palm Harbor , Florida , ongoing research is being conducted using the Bowen Q-RIBb (Quantitative Rapid Identification of Borrelia burgdorferi) test developed by Dr. JoAnne Whitaker. Originally a CLIA approved lab until April of 2003, the institute, lacking in vital grant funding, changed its status from that of a clinical lab to a research facility under the State of Florida Health Department. Since its inception, the main focus at the institute has been the development of an accurate test for the Borrelia burgdorferi (Bb) antigen, the causative agent of Lyme disease. The Bowen Q-RIBb test just recently received its preliminary US Patent approval. Although the Bowen Q-RiBb Test is not presently approved by the FDA for Lyme disease; an application for FDA approval is now pending.

Thus, if your tests are negative, find out what test were done!
 
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Simple blood antibodies test will determine if you have it or not. Personally If you do have it antibiotics will take care of it and be done with it becuase it still may be in early stages. Personally I still think the toxic metals and mineral imbalances from dieting. are the root cause. I did some thing very dangerous and almost ended up a trip to hospital but it gave me an indication where I was lacking. From dieting, caffine, 3 gallons of water a day and pissing like a race horse I most likely caused an electrolyte imbalance then add protein on top, dextrose post workout with no minerals to counteract acidity created. i through my body into a potassium deficiency and now I look back I was holding water in my face and around my ankle becuase body was holding on to the water and lossing the potassium = not good.
 
first detox session was today..2 hours for minerals...the other part consists of a 3 hour session for aminos..imagine sitting still for 3 hours with a needle in ur arm...not the greatest feeling...anyways i hope this gets me feeling better..also taking the prescribed antibiotics and am continuing my armour for my thyroid
 
oaktownboy said:
first detox session was today..2 hours for minerals...the other part consists of a 3 hour session for aminos..imagine sitting still for 3 hours with a needle in ur arm...not the greatest feeling...anyways i hope this gets me feeling better..also taking the prescribed antibiotics and am continuing my armour for my thyroid

good luck oak.
 
the part i'm really confused about is why i have a hard time calming down...like if i get excited at all i start having these horrible breathing problems..must be a lack of certain vitamins or minerals in my body
 
It sounds to me like you are having panic attacks. Which is a chemical imbalance in the brain. You could be lacking seratonin. JMO
I thought that about 20 threads ago...tyou have symptoms of panic attacks...look into it. ;)
 
on the flip side i get extremely suicidal and i can't stop thinking about the past..this a point which i really don't understand..i try all i can to think of the future but all my brain seems to be set on is makin my life a living hell..sometimes i start crying for no reason..i had such a bright future..i don't even have enoguh ebnergy to go to the doctor's today
 
You out of balance and it takes time to get back into balance. Like I said I had major pains on bottom of my feet I have been upping my potassium and they have slowly going away. You have been lacking things for a while I had the same thing emotional out breaks for no reason at all, but I am doing better each day since i have been balancing things out with out throwing other things out of wack.. Its a fine line we rid and we tetter one way or another but drs are not use to dealing with athletes and only general public. When are bodies are out of balance we will feel it alot harder then average jow will. I keeped relfecting on pass as well becusae I want to get back to where I was.
 
Panic Disorder is a serious condition that around one out of every 75 people might experience. It usually appears during the teens or early adulthood, and while the exact causes are unclear, there does seem to be a connection with major life transitions that are potentially stressful: graduating from college, getting married, having a first child, and so on. There is also some evidence for a genetic predisposition; if a family member has suffered from panic disorder, you have an increased risk of suffering from it yourself, especially during a time in your life that is particularly stressful.

Panic Attacks: The Hallmark of Panic Disorder

A panic attack is a sudden surge of overwhelming fear that comes without warning and without any obvious reason. It is far more intense than the feeling of being 'stressed out' that most people experience. Symptoms of a panic attack include:

racing heartbeat
difficulty breathing, feeling as though you 'can't get enough air'
terror that is almost paralyzing
dizziness, lightheadedness or nausea
trembling, sweating, shaking
choking, chest pains
hot flashes, or sudden chills
tingling in fingers or toes ('pins and needles')
fear that you're going to go crazy or are about to die
depression

I stopped there because it's a lot to read and I know how you must feel about reading all of these "diagnosing you tips" let me know if you would ike to know more.
 
Some of the symptoms of potassium deficiency include: tiredness, high and low blood pressure, acne, dry eyes, irritability, irregular or rapid heartbeat, muscle weakness, depression, confusion, anxiety, insomnia, frail skeletal structure, bone and joint pain, decreased reflexes, high cholesterol, constipation, edema, and water retention. Respiratory problems, excessive thirst, evidence of protein in urine, less than adequate growth, infertility and headaches are other symptoms of potassium deficiency

To find out if you have a potassium deficiency a RBC Potassium test is only test will tell you serum will not show it
 
goin to next detox appointment...forcing myself is a better description..mayne why can't i just die
 
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