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Scared Shitless

Idiot yes you are!!!! You have an exclusive chance to get back to normal life. Do you know how many uncurable patients would send their souls in order to have this chance?? Why did these people withstand far more than 2 years.. even if their chance of recovering is simply 0,001% ??? Why did they go on if they had such a small chance???

You don't have cancer, nor any mysterious infectious disease. The only disease you have is your STUPIDITY!
 
so now i got sick because i'm stupid? just one day out of the blue huh
 
You didn't know you would get into these problems. I didn't know it too.

You're an idiot because you're refusing to get better.
 
OTB you see i don't want to really see you dead. You're the best match to my problems on the whole internet and I do somewhere in me feel for you. But you can bet your pants i don't really feel anything for your childish part of yourself. That leaves me completly cold and disgusted. You see i'm not a heartless manwhore but you leave me almost no choice. So you have to decide.. let the good part of you win or leave that boy called OTB drown in stupidity.
It's up to you... i gave you all my advice as the one who suffers from something you also have.. you can beleive me i felt exactly the same... think i don't understand you?? still think i don't know how your pain great is?? BULLSHIT.. i know EXACTLY.. i coudln't even read shit on the internet i was so FUCKED UP.. i coudln't sit behind the computer because it made me feel so sick i had to go to bed for 5 hours everytime to feel atleast a bit better.... i coudln't even have damn sex with my GF.. i was like impotent... my GF thought i'm hypochondriac.. my familly thought too... HELL ON EARTH... almost everybody wanted to dump me because they were frustrated... now who's been in worser shit?? Your or me?

you have one problem and that's your personality that was here before the shit started to happen .. that's all.

By this i'm not going to write anything more to this topic. It's up to you and nature to decide your future...
 
i do the fuckin relaxation tapes..i do the breathing exercises...i have tried practically everything. I am still doing acupuncture. BUT NOTHING WORKS...This "all up to me" approach is bullshit. I have been trying since day 1; and where has that gotten me?
 
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whenever i type in mitochondrial dysfunction, i get two substances that seem to cure the defects: L-Carnitine or Acetly-L-Carnitine, and ALA..i have been taking L-Carnitine for several weeks now, with no effect..maybe I will try ALA as well, although I thought that messed around with your blood sugar levels...oxidative stress..how was it caused? i guess from overtraining and ephedra...that's the best i can come up with though
 
okie doke
 
I know you have been trying but you were doing NOTHING that would help you from the day1. Get it?? NOTHING.. you could only start doing the correct thing since April 2006 ... it's been only 2 months?? It took me 4 full months of completly perfect regimen (biodfeedback tested, mental workouts, stress reconfiguring, whole foods diet, excercise and a very special thing called yawning which helped me most in 2 days...)

... In order to see if your relaxation is working you need to get tested on a biofeedback machine ... + it takes months (6-12) of successful and correct relaxation to see benefits.. that's how long it takes to deplete all the stress storage in your hypothalamus.. + you have to have a perfect whole foods diet and excercise.. these 2 things help the efficiency of the regimen. All the cells in your body that have been stressed your whole life (bad lifestyle,drugs,stress etc etc) in your body can amazingly get healthy again if they have the proper conditions. Regeneration of your body didn't stop but it's very slow and it's ALWAYS possible to reverse it to an almost perfect state. You can still get much more healthy then the rest of the population if you would mantain proper relaxation,whole foods diet,excercise in your everyday life.

And again you're an idiot because you haven't been doing it that long for seeing any real benefits. You have to work on yourself mentaly too.. look for things that might cause you feel anxious, too excited and etc etc.. you have to rebuild your response to things to act calmly.. even to your ilness. You see OTB you were doing things to get better but never did them for proper long time and you don't know if you really do them right (i mean the relaxation). Bye... that's really all I can say.. if you don't beleive me well you know where you can go ;)

now this was really my last post..
 
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OTB, I think with your high stress response level and lack of natural antioxidant capacity, the RALA would be best used later on.

Theanine, GABA, magnesium citrate, taurine, sam-e, these will help you best. You must be careful not to use too much of th ALCAR, a small dose is best.
 
TRouble wouldn't the ALCAR help to increase parasympthetic system response from increasing acetylcholine production. Most recommend 1000 -1500 mgs, but would 500 mgs would be even more advisible. Could too much ALCAR deplete choline and cause cell membrane alterations due lack of PC formation? Still even at 250 mgs of gaba i am still getting that hypoventalation from it why am I so senstive to it ?
 
saw another psychiatrist..he, believe it or not, used to be a bodybuilder...he also agreed that i was suffering from a physical problem, and said my doctors were stupid for not leaving me on the thyroid medication for longer than 2 months..So, he put me on Cymbalta, even though he told me it wouldn't make me physically feel better. He also said it was odd that Wellbutrine made me sleepy, as the drug is supposed to give u energy.
 
Good,
i have heard good things from cymbalata. It can take any where from 3-4 months for thyroid to be at peak. Does he work with a medical dr and will further probe into your thyroid. You should let the psychatrist and your MD natural path handle it from here may be they can get together to some kind program to get you back to balance. Yeah phyiscal problem your thyroid and endocrine system is out of balance, but that is for drs to determine no one else. Thyroid is very difficult thing to treat because there are alot of things typical drs will not look at mainly rt3, antibodies, ect and needs a well trained professsional to deal with and not treat you by numbers but how rather your symptoms. It has been highly proven alot of psychological problems resolve when thyroid is at optimal level :thumb:
 
have these horrible shooting pains in my hamstrings and calves...
 
OTB, are you currently on Welbutrin? If so, read this:

Important Safety Information About WELLBUTRIN XL
WELLBUTRIN XL is not for everyone. There is a risk of seizure when taking WELLBUTRIN XL, so don???t use if you???ve had a seizure or eating disorder, or if you abruptly stop using alcohol or sedatives. Don???t take with MAOIs, or medicines that contain bupropion. When used with a nicotine patch or alone, there is a risk of increased blood pressure, sometimes severe. To reduce risk of serious side effects, tell your doctor if you have liver or kidney problems. Other side effects may include weight loss, dry mouth, nausea, difficulty sleeping, dizziness, or sore throat.

WELLBUTRIN XL is approved only for adults 18 years and over. In some children and teens, antidepressants increase suicidal thoughts or actions. Whether or not you are taking antidepressants, you or your family should call the doctor right away if you have worsening depression, thoughts of suicide, or sudden or severe changes in mood or behavior, especially at the beginning of treatment or after a change in dose (see Patient Information: What is important information I should know and share with my family about taking antidepressants?).
 
no i stopped wellbutrine...now they have me on cymbalta..
 
i wish there were some kind of pill i could take that would bonk me out and i wouldn't wake up...a gun would have had the risk of not doing the job and leaving me braindead
 
Just go jump into traffic instead of whining like a little girl.

Ive read every post in this thread and its totally out of control. Youve had every dz known to man.

Fix yourself or kill yourself. Shit or get off the pot.
 
Justin you need to find the determination that you had for bodybuilding and put it into wanting to get better. That is what I did and why i am still here today other wise I would not be. I was at the end of my rope many times, but i reached deep down inside for that drive and passion and you can too. Drs wanted me on 15 different kinds of drugs I told them to shove it up there ass and seeked out my own explanation and here I am today after almost 3 years of spending hours of reading and learning and I am finally making the turn after all this time when I knew I was right but drs could not pick up on it, but the accuputure was on it from the start although I could not explain why...Now I know and correcting this problem with out any drugs and getting my life back once again. You can too. Go back and re read about bile acids. Trouble was trying point the way by telling you that there is some kind of malfunctioning in your fat metabolism and liver congestion and chain reactions it causes.
 
nsimmons said:
Just go jump into traffic instead of whining like a little girl.

Ive read every post in this thread and its totally out of control. Youve had every dz known to man.

Fix yourself or kill yourself. Shit or get off the pot.
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hey if jumping into traffic would cause instant death, i would...but that's very unlikely
 
Oaktown,

I (and many others here) support you and want you to keep fighting this, until you find the answer and get yourself out of pain.

Hardasnails finally found out after 10 months. But he did find out. You're taking longer, but there will be a light at the end of the tunnel.

At 21 you have a lot of time left. Don't check out early.


Peace
 
Mr_Snafu said:
Oaktown,

I (and many others here) support you and want you to keep fighting this, until you find the answer and get yourself out of pain.

Hardasnails finally found out after 10 months. But he did find out. You're taking longer, but there will be a light at the end of the tunnel.

At 21 you have a lot of time left. Don't check out early.


Peace
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Its been almost 2.5 years but whose counting. Reason why they could not catch mine was because when I had blood drawn stupid drs did not tell me to stop my mineral supplements 3-4 days a head of time thats why I kept coming up low normal. if I would have stopped them then it could have been caught a long long time ago, but i am back in the gylm again and starting from ground zero, but muscle has memory. I am giving my self one more month to recovery and then I am starting to apply for work for time..
 
had Spectracell blood drawn today..this is one of the last tests i will ever take..everyday i look back and try to pinpoint what i did exactly that sent my body spiraling downward, yet i never seem to come up with an answer
 
You were given your answer.

Its a forest and trees affair. As long as you ignore whats in front of you and stare off in the distance in dim hopes of some sign - when you are tripping over it in front of you - you will continue to be blinded by your ignorance.

Hybah as spelled it out and so have I. HANS has told you that we have his problem pretty well scoped out and has given you plenty of encouragement.

You had your answer weeks ago. Wake up! Time for you to get healed.
 
Trouble said:
You were given your answer.

Its a forest and trees affair. As long as you ignore whats in front of you and stare off in the distance in dim hopes of some sign - when you are tripping over it in front of you - you will continue to be blinded by your ignorance.

Hybah as spelled it out and so have I. HANS has told you that we have his problem pretty well scoped out and has given you plenty of encouragement.

You had your answer weeks ago. Wake up! Time for you to get healed.
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the relaxation techniques, deep breathing, massaging, acupuncture and supplements u have recommended have not done jack for me...no disrespect intended...the problem goes much deeper than that
 
saw neurologist today..will run EGG and cat scan on brain...also some kind of blood test for my muscles
 
If we do not hear from him again I will know the reason why..
 
Well I guess he was just never meant to be healthy. And the only thing that was the problem was his personality. Ridiculous... i wonder how many people end like this all around the world.. with the enviroment changes, stress, stupid life style, body exploiting, horrible diets we'll see more people like OTB. I already see them here and ALOT of them. And alot of them doesn't want to learn a thing because they're somehow brainwashed by this stupid blind world we're living in.

Like my 27 yrz old brother... he has problems with stress BIG TIME... always ultra nervous, tensed, strongly grinds teeth while sleeps, nose always stuffed (maseter muscle bracing.. not a flu or sinusitis) sleeps almost 10 hours a day but still feels tired, got problems with digestion for over 3 years, immunity none, thin and weak, often sick, smokes weed, drinks alot of alc, parties all the time, atleast the diet is quite ok but still full of refined carbs.. Has a good job and earns nice money and his girlfriend studies nuclear physics but still.... he's a timebomb.. I tried to explain him a hundred times that we're both prone to these problems thanks to mother's genetics but he just don't want to listen. He says.. "well if I have to get sick in the future i will get sick.. i'm not going to do anything about it now.. it's destiny". LOL WHAT DESTINY?? Damnit who chooses the destiny??.. we do... oh my another complete idiot who's just too lazy to be responsible for his health.

Sad sad sad but hey, life's a fight.. only the stronger will remain.

Btw HAN .. i think it's a very bad idea to start bodybuilding now... the muscle tension could be a big problem.. i'm very sensitive to my own body and can sense almost anything (this hypersensitivity ain't good at all.... it does more bad than good) i feel that when i carry heavy stuff around for a longer time my body is softly slipping into the flight-or-fight-mode again.. maybe this will be happening to you too and if you overdo it... you can be flying in it again :(..
I do jogging and it actually makes me feel less tensed.. the exhaustion doesn't cause flight-or-fight mode to me...
You need to be 100% sure that you're symptom free and then can workout but very very softly for the first few months.. but maybe you're a different case than i am.. who knows..
 
Well I kind of brought this on my self from trying to be healthy and not thinking about stupid things I did. Main thing was clogging my liver with to many fats and heating them up which killed my antioxident supply. Well thinking I was doing something healthy again by cooking (boiling and then turning it down but the oil has already been damaged) not thinking with EVO and with my veggies in wok was only adding insult to injury. I kept the EVO next to stove with easy access and light was shining straight on it through the windows . So everything that one could do wrong I did. We live and we learn. So I keep practice the stress reduction and remove the rancid fats and replace with more EVO, udos, in shakes not heating any more oils ever again !! i am weight training slowly not full tilt and taking brisk walks out side for 45 minutes a day getting listening to relaxing music, mediation and prayer before bed. All supplements that have been recommned. Now getting rid of the rancid fats will help build up antioxident and mineral reserve and better digestion, reduce phyiscal stress, and cell membranes with stop uncoupling.
 
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