those were small deficits i should add..nothing off the scale..and no, i am not on thyroid medication
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i would like to thank DoubleBase for being the only one to donate to my fund. at least there is someone out there that cares...
yeah you're right...thinking people actually cared..boy was i wrong
I still plan to donate. You need to give it some time. Like a month or so, and I'm sure there will be others.
Double D said:
That's not very nice.
I think a 2-3 day ban is in order.
not really
How do we know this kid aint makin up shit??Is he for real?
How do we know this kid aint makin up shit??Is he for real?
You can't expect people over the internet to just hand out money like that. For those that you have made friends with, I am sure you will get donation. For those that don't know you or have not been involved or watching your progress it's not going to happen. People don't just hand over money to ones that don't know. Have some respect for people and their privacy and don't call out on them when they don't donate. Not all of us are in a financial situation that money can be freely handed over to a stranger. Learn some respect!oaktownboy said:
Jodi said:
Exactly. Hey Dyl feel free to hand everything you got over, because its easy to do that whenever you don't have 2 hungry babies at home. With gas being over 3 dollars a day and having to drive to work an hour away, yeah I think we are all hurting a little bit.
True Story, but I think it's a little harsh when the guy is dying and people are spitting in his face.
Theres lot of people dying in this world everyday, and I dont have the time nor money to worry about them. So whenever I hear someone say no one cares then I take that as an insult. Hell people care, but we cant be handing money off to just anyone who carries a post on for a hell of a long time. I hope he is bullshitting, but if hes not I feel for him. But for him to say "no one cares" and basically calling us heartless, well that doesnt sit real well with me. I take it personally.
ok fine...i hope when something happens to u in ur life and u ask people for help and no one does, u remember what u just told me...see how u feel when someone spits in ur face as u slowly die
My wife has a brain tumor. If you would like to know where my money goes then there you are. She had brain surgery about 4 years ago and now its back. She doesnt run around feeling sorry for herself she simply goes on day by day giving everyone everything she has. Shes a very loving person and her take on it is live everyday to the fullest because she doesnt know how much longer she has. Oh I know how things are in situations like that, but for you to act like you are the only damn person in trouble in this world you are not so get over it.
oaktownboy said:
I think it sucks what is happening to you, and I cannot empathize with your situation. Everyone on this board has problems, I am sure you believe yours to be the worst, most people feel they have it worse off than anyone else. From a psychological standpoint you have already given up. Even if they diagnose you with fibro, it doesn't matter, they don't understand fibro any more than you understand what is going on with yourself. I know many people in similar situations, I worked in clinical research for the very disease you hope to be diagnosed with. You have people who define themselves by what they do and people who define themselves by what is done to them, you are the latter. You have no control over what is happening to you and that sucks, but you do have control over your attitude and how you handle your situation. I would love to tell you that I believe you will go to heaven when this is all over and be surrounded by virgins or whatever the hell you want. The simple fact of the matter is that you are more likely wormfood. You give up, that's fine, but you do it to yourself. I have no respect for anyone who even remotely contemplates suicide, it's the pussy's way out. When you become 18 you don't magically become a man, you become a man by the way you act and the way you respect life. When you think you have it bad, I can assure you that there are far worse things than to throw up every now and again. Go to Africa and tell me you have it bad.
Its been a while in the making. I got with her whenever I was about 16 and they found out about it whenever she was 14. She got into a car wreck and they said it could be nothing or maybe a small tumor and that they would have to keep an eye on it. Well after a few years past she started getting terrible headaches. So she went to the doc and he said she had a tumor the size of an egg. They waited about a week to get everything prepared to take it out. Whenever they went in they couldnt get it all out because it was wrapped around her sesory nerves around her nasal region. So they figured they could cut out enough so that she would be able to live with it. So thats been about 4 years ago since that happened. And now shes having terrible headaches again. She has to go get an MRI tommorow and I think we all already know whats its going to be. Its been a tough road, but I wouldnt change any of it for the world.
Thank you. We have been praying hard and we know she will get through this. The only thing that really scares me is the fact that they can never cut it all the way out, so the way it looks they have to do surgery about once every 5 years. Shes a super strong person.
I know what you are going through. I had a tumor taken out of me in 2002. It was the size of a tennis ball. Scary times and a lot of stress wondering if or when it will come back. Sounds like her's isn't malignant? Good luck with everything.Double D said:
I don't think enough people know what is going on with you. Maybe do a general write up and have one of the mods make it a sticky for you. I have been following this thread for a while now. It is huge now and most people on here don't even venture in reading all the posts. You're welcome BTW.
Oaktownboy, my son has had some major problems, though his started about two weeks after he stopped using an ephedra product. He has had heart palpatations, head pain ,severe anxiety, brain fog, terrible memory, depression, which I beleive is from all the suffering has gone through. I had to pull a gun out of his mouth on Christmas Eve. Watching him suffer I kinda know what you are going through. He is on xanax, only the doctors don't prescribe enough , he eats em up. Antidepressants make him feel worse. When he runs out of his xanax he will try supplements, which he does feel an improvement on, but once he gets his xanax refilled he does"t stick to the supplements. The supplements he has felt an imrovement on are:
*ImmuneTree colostrum- not all colostrum is made the same, this one is supposed to be one of the best- stick to it. It takes time. Balances neurotransmitters and thyroid taken with chickweed or Myrrh (herbs).
*Alph lipoic acid- helped him to sleep.
*Chickweed (an herb)
*Olive leaf (an herb that has killed every pathegen it has been tested on. I read where bacteria is changing in form so may not show up in tests.
*Jarrow whey protein to balance neurotransmitters.
*Dulse- a seavegetable that provides essential minerals all in balance, mineral are lacking in our food supply because our food is not grown organicly. Also go to a health food store and buy and eat lots of fresh organic fruits and vegetables.
*Eat 1 avocado a week- it is loaded with nutients.
Something I have been begging him to do because it is a healing miracle substance is to use castor oil packs. It is used for cancer, removes toxins from the body. pain, joints, AIDS, Diabertes, renews organs, do a search on it to find out more.A castor oil pack is a white cotton towel soaked with castor oil. Make sure you are not dehydrated when you do this. A 16 oz. bottle only costs about $8.00 You are also to take 1 tbs a week of olive oil when you use the castor oil packs. Use the packs 3 to 7 times a week. You can save the towel and put in the refrigerator to reuse for about two weeks. If you forget to put it in the refrigerator once in a while it is still ok because castor oil is antiviral and antibacterial.
*If the pack that you are using for application is a Wool Flannel or Cotton Flannel material such as a towel, then protect your heating pad by placing plastic wrap on top of the heating pad. Next, fold the wool or cotton flannel into 3 layers and place it on top of the plastic wrap. Add castor oil to the flannel. The castor oil should be added to saturate all three layers of flannel, but not so much that it drips from the flannel or wool.
Wait about 5 to 10 minutes for the oil to become warm.
When you are ready to begin, flip the castor oil pack and heating pad on to your abdominal area or where ever you have pain, and relax.
Turn the heating pad on high for a few minutes than turn to low.
General application time is between 1-2 hours.
After your session, clean the oil from your body with a dilute solution of water and baking soda if desired. Some people leave it on. Many people store the castor oil pack in a plastic storage container between uses. Be sure to keep the pack out of the sun and in a cool dark place such as the refrigerator.. After 3 days of using the castor oil pack take about 1 teaspoon of olive oil (NOT castor oil) by mouth. Taken usually in the evening before retiring. Always seek medical advice prior to use. Do NOT use during pregnancy or during menstrual flow.
Also if you can not afford to buy the supplements go to churches and explain your situation. Not all churches will help but you should find a couple that will give you money to buy them. Especially if you bring doctor bills with you to prove it. Tell them that doctors haven't been able to helpyou.
It says in the bible that God gave us the leaves of the trees for healing.
It also says we will have anxiety when we eat are bread and drink our water because it is not natural anymore with all the chemecals added to it. Try to eat as much all natural and orgainic food as possible.
God bless you and give you answers
*ImmuneTree colostrum- not all colostrum is made the same, this one is supposed to be one of the best- stick to it. It takes time. Balances neurotransmitters and thyroid taken with chickweed or Myrrh (herbs).
*Alph lipoic acid- helped him to sleep.
*Chickweed (an herb)
*Olive leaf (an herb that has killed every pathegen it has been tested on. I read where bacteria is changing in form so may not show up in tests.
*Jarrow whey protein to balance neurotransmitters.
*Dulse- a seavegetable that provides essential minerals all in balance, mineral are lacking in our food supply because our food is not grown organicly. Also go to a health food store and buy and eat lots of fresh organic fruits and vegetables.
*Eat 1 avocado a week- it is loaded with nutients.
Something I have been begging him to do because it is a healing miracle substance is to use castor oil packs. It is used for cancer, removes toxins from the body. pain, joints, AIDS, Diabertes, renews organs, do a search on it to find out more.A castor oil pack is a white cotton towel soaked with castor oil. Make sure you are not dehydrated when you do this. A 16 oz. bottle only costs about $8.00 You are also to take 1 tbs a week of olive oil when you use the castor oil packs. Use the packs 3 to 7 times a week. You can save the towel and put in the refrigerator to reuse for about two weeks. If you forget to put it in the refrigerator once in a while it is still ok because castor oil is antiviral and antibacterial.
*If the pack that you are using for application is a Wool Flannel or Cotton Flannel material such as a towel, then protect your heating pad by placing plastic wrap on top of the heating pad. Next, fold the wool or cotton flannel into 3 layers and place it on top of the plastic wrap. Add castor oil to the flannel. The castor oil should be added to saturate all three layers of flannel, but not so much that it drips from the flannel or wool.
Wait about 5 to 10 minutes for the oil to become warm.
When you are ready to begin, flip the castor oil pack and heating pad on to your abdominal area or where ever you have pain, and relax.
Turn the heating pad on high for a few minutes than turn to low.
General application time is between 1-2 hours.
After your session, clean the oil from your body with a dilute solution of water and baking soda if desired. Some people leave it on. Many people store the castor oil pack in a plastic storage container between uses. Be sure to keep the pack out of the sun and in a cool dark place such as the refrigerator.. After 3 days of using the castor oil pack take about 1 teaspoon of olive oil (NOT castor oil) by mouth. Taken usually in the evening before retiring. Always seek medical advice prior to use. Do NOT use during pregnancy or during menstrual flow.
Also if you can not afford to buy the supplements go to churches and explain your situation. Not all churches will help but you should find a couple that will give you money to buy them. Especially if you bring doctor bills with you to prove it. Tell them that doctors haven't been able to helpyou.
It says in the bible that God gave us the leaves of the trees for healing.
It also says we will have anxiety when we eat are bread and drink our water because it is not natural anymore with all the chemecals added to it. Try to eat as much all natural and orgainic food as possible.
God bless you and give you answers
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Rondee, where do I start?
I've addressed the base cause of OTBs problem: low methylation from excess hitamine suckout of sam-e, following chronic CNS excitation of glutamine- and histamine sensative acid-releasing receptors in the stomach and gut.
This causes excessive bile production, taurine leaching from a precariously under sulfurated body - due to very poor diet and typically, bad sleep habits as well.
In the autistic (not the type you'r thinking, I'm referring to high functioning autistics) and in chronically stressed individuals, transsulfuration and methionine remethylation are low.
Your castor oil is addressing the histamine excess from CNS stimulation (stress) of the gut.
Diarrhea and biogenic amines: regional changes in brain histamine concentration and serotonin metabolism following castor oil-induced diarrhea in rats. Sakurai E, Yamasaki S, Iizuka Y, Hikichi N, Niwa H. Yakugaku Zasshi. 1991 Apr-May;111(4-5):241-6
Regional changes in concentrations of histamine (HA), serotonin (5-HT) and 5-hydroxyindoleacetic acid (5-HIAA) in the rat brain were investigated after diarrhea induced by castor oil. Significant decreases in body weight were observed from the 3rd day after daily oral administration of castor oil (2.5 ml/kg). HA concentrations in most brain regions decreased in diarrhea induced by a single administration of castor oil. A significant decrease was recognized particularly in the case of the hippocampus. The influence has begun to appear in the thalamus and hypothalamus in consecutive (3 d) administration. HA concentration in the striatal and hypothalamic regions of the rat treated with castor oil for 9 d significantly decreased in comparison with the control group. On the other hand, an inhibition of 5-HT turnover was observed in the thalamus at 3 h after a single administration of castor oil. However, this inhibition was not found in rats treated with castor oil for 3 d. Moreover, 5-HT concentration in the midbrain significantly decreased in rats that acquired the adaptability for the occurrence of diarrhea. These data present a new finding that the occurrence of diarrhea or acquisition of adaptability for diarrheal occurrence affects the central histaminergic or serotonergic neuron system.
The biogenic amine excess is a side effect of the perturbed gut flora, a result of lack of fiber, poor nutritional status, and lack of sleep, or poor sleep hygiene, that go hand in hand in inducing this unfortunate condition.
In plain English, the pathogens that take up residence do so because the person has had either a long history of chronic stress, poor diet and a lack of specific trans-sulfuration pathway amino acids (betaine, taurine, inositol, choline, cysteine and glutathione precursors), cofactors and minerals (B6 and zinc in particular) - combined with a lack of exercise and adequate rest (meaning at the proper hours to ensure correct release of cortisol and control of blood glucose during the day). A diet enriched in fast metabolising carbs also causes gut bacteria to produce an excess of acetate, which in the acidic gut and also in liver is quickly converted to glutamate - and this produces the characteristic inflammation, gut distension, pain, rapid peristalisis and bile ecess observed in OTBs and your son's condition.
I hope you can understand this post - the condition is correctible if and only if a series of lifestyle changes are made.
Your castor oil and phytochemicals are bandaides that help, but do not address the root cause - intestinal dysbiosis and fermentation pathogenicity in the colon.
This is the third time I have posted this information. If I hear, one more time, from OTB that nobody cares, nobody understands, and nobody is helping, I will close this thread permanently.
Rondee, you will find and purchase three items:
All the Whey Protein Blend (you can find the company thru this website, its a sponsor, but thats conincidental to my recommendation), to which you will add, cautiously 1-2 tablespoons of rice bran. Also add glucosamine sulfate, 1 gram. Feed your boy a 30 gram dose of whey, twice or three times a day.
Primal Defense. A probiotic blend with minerals added.
http://www.beyondprobiotics.net/primaldefpow.htm
Third, you will begin feeding your boy, slowly at first, organosulfur amino acids. S-adenosyl methionine (sam-e, 200 mg twice per day on an empty stomach), TMG (betaine anhydrous), 1/2 gram twice per day just before meals, taurine (0.5 gram, in water, couple times per day - cautiously...this can cause upset in the super sensitive gut system). Ditto with magnesium citrate - 1/4 tsp dose, couple times a day, try it with a meal.
Sleep must be tightly regulated. The patient is NOT allowed to spend more than a few hours a day on the computer or in front of a TV screen - the excitatory brain glutamate chemistry is aggravated by the brain wave state induced by monitors and bright contrast.
Fresh air, and short frequent (twice daily) exercise is a must.
Stress reduction and control is absolutely required here. Meditation, prayer, quiet whole body relaxation techniques are a must.
Never, never should similarly affected individuals use CNS stimulants of any kind, particularly those use for weight loss. Missed meals and missed sleep are not an option.
With care, this condition is completely reversible and can be maintained in a permanent remission state. Disease will return if antibiotics clear out normal healthy gut bacteria, if sleep and diet patterns are allowed to slide into formerly bad habits and if stress peaks and remains high.
Note the serotonin-induced depressive conditions in the brain.
I've addressed the base cause of OTBs problem: low methylation from excess hitamine suckout of sam-e, following chronic CNS excitation of glutamine- and histamine sensative acid-releasing receptors in the stomach and gut.
This causes excessive bile production, taurine leaching from a precariously under sulfurated body - due to very poor diet and typically, bad sleep habits as well.
In the autistic (not the type you'r thinking, I'm referring to high functioning autistics) and in chronically stressed individuals, transsulfuration and methionine remethylation are low.
Your castor oil is addressing the histamine excess from CNS stimulation (stress) of the gut.
Diarrhea and biogenic amines: regional changes in brain histamine concentration and serotonin metabolism following castor oil-induced diarrhea in rats. Sakurai E, Yamasaki S, Iizuka Y, Hikichi N, Niwa H. Yakugaku Zasshi. 1991 Apr-May;111(4-5):241-6
Regional changes in concentrations of histamine (HA), serotonin (5-HT) and 5-hydroxyindoleacetic acid (5-HIAA) in the rat brain were investigated after diarrhea induced by castor oil. Significant decreases in body weight were observed from the 3rd day after daily oral administration of castor oil (2.5 ml/kg). HA concentrations in most brain regions decreased in diarrhea induced by a single administration of castor oil. A significant decrease was recognized particularly in the case of the hippocampus. The influence has begun to appear in the thalamus and hypothalamus in consecutive (3 d) administration. HA concentration in the striatal and hypothalamic regions of the rat treated with castor oil for 9 d significantly decreased in comparison with the control group. On the other hand, an inhibition of 5-HT turnover was observed in the thalamus at 3 h after a single administration of castor oil. However, this inhibition was not found in rats treated with castor oil for 3 d. Moreover, 5-HT concentration in the midbrain significantly decreased in rats that acquired the adaptability for the occurrence of diarrhea. These data present a new finding that the occurrence of diarrhea or acquisition of adaptability for diarrheal occurrence affects the central histaminergic or serotonergic neuron system.
The biogenic amine excess is a side effect of the perturbed gut flora, a result of lack of fiber, poor nutritional status, and lack of sleep, or poor sleep hygiene, that go hand in hand in inducing this unfortunate condition.
In plain English, the pathogens that take up residence do so because the person has had either a long history of chronic stress, poor diet and a lack of specific trans-sulfuration pathway amino acids (betaine, taurine, inositol, choline, cysteine and glutathione precursors), cofactors and minerals (B6 and zinc in particular) - combined with a lack of exercise and adequate rest (meaning at the proper hours to ensure correct release of cortisol and control of blood glucose during the day). A diet enriched in fast metabolising carbs also causes gut bacteria to produce an excess of acetate, which in the acidic gut and also in liver is quickly converted to glutamate - and this produces the characteristic inflammation, gut distension, pain, rapid peristalisis and bile ecess observed in OTBs and your son's condition.
I hope you can understand this post - the condition is correctible if and only if a series of lifestyle changes are made.
Your castor oil and phytochemicals are bandaides that help, but do not address the root cause - intestinal dysbiosis and fermentation pathogenicity in the colon.
This is the third time I have posted this information. If I hear, one more time, from OTB that nobody cares, nobody understands, and nobody is helping, I will close this thread permanently.
Rondee, you will find and purchase three items:
All the Whey Protein Blend (you can find the company thru this website, its a sponsor, but thats conincidental to my recommendation), to which you will add, cautiously 1-2 tablespoons of rice bran. Also add glucosamine sulfate, 1 gram. Feed your boy a 30 gram dose of whey, twice or three times a day.
Primal Defense. A probiotic blend with minerals added.
http://www.beyondprobiotics.net/primaldefpow.htm
Third, you will begin feeding your boy, slowly at first, organosulfur amino acids. S-adenosyl methionine (sam-e, 200 mg twice per day on an empty stomach), TMG (betaine anhydrous), 1/2 gram twice per day just before meals, taurine (0.5 gram, in water, couple times per day - cautiously...this can cause upset in the super sensitive gut system). Ditto with magnesium citrate - 1/4 tsp dose, couple times a day, try it with a meal.
Sleep must be tightly regulated. The patient is NOT allowed to spend more than a few hours a day on the computer or in front of a TV screen - the excitatory brain glutamate chemistry is aggravated by the brain wave state induced by monitors and bright contrast.
Fresh air, and short frequent (twice daily) exercise is a must.
Stress reduction and control is absolutely required here. Meditation, prayer, quiet whole body relaxation techniques are a must.
Never, never should similarly affected individuals use CNS stimulants of any kind, particularly those use for weight loss. Missed meals and missed sleep are not an option.
With care, this condition is completely reversible and can be maintained in a permanent remission state. Disease will return if antibiotics clear out normal healthy gut bacteria, if sleep and diet patterns are allowed to slide into formerly bad habits and if stress peaks and remains high.
Note the serotonin-induced depressive conditions in the brain.
Double- D There is a diet that treats tumors and cancer. It is called the Budwig diet. Since they can never remove the tumor completely she might want to try this for at least six months and try to stay on cottage cheese or yogurt, flaxseed and oil mixture petty much every day to prevent it from coming back.
Dr.Johanna Budwig Mix:
*Put in your blender:
1 cup Organic cottage cheese (low fat, not too hard one, best make your own)(or organic yogurt)
2-5 Tbsp. of flaxseeed oil-
1-3 Tbsp. of freshly ground up organic flaxseed (coffee grinder ($15) works fine)
enough water to make it soft
little cayenne
fresh fruit such as blueberries or strawberries.
optional:
little garlic
little red pepper
little champagne
Make it very soft.
Eat some of it every day.
1) SUGAR IS ABSOLUTELY FORBIDDEN. Grape juice may be added to sweeten any other freshly squeezed juices.
2) Other 'forbiddens' are:
- All animal fats.
- All Salad Oils (this included commercial mayonnaise)
- All Meats (chemicals & hormones)
- Butter
- Margarine
- Preserved Meats (the preservatives block metabolism even of Flax Oil)
3) Freshly squeezed vegetable juices are fine - carrot, celery, apple, and red beet.
4) Three times daily a warm tea is essential - peppermint, rose hips or grape tea - all sweetened as desired with honey.
TRY TO DO THESE FOUR THINGS AT LEAST UNTIL THE TUMOR IS GONE. I make cakes and cookies using wholewheat, honey or turbinado suger instead of white suger. I do use butter when making cookies but yogurt can be substituted for oil when maging cakes. I also just add a few tablespoons of virgin olive oil.
Try to stay away from junk foods and hydrogynated oils
Budwig claims that the diet is both a preventative and a curative. She says the absence of linol-acids [in the average western diet] is responsible for the production of oxydase, which induces cancer growth and is the cause of many other chronic disorders.
The beneficial oxydase ferments are destroyed by heating or boiling oils in foods, and by nitrates used for preserving meat, etc.
The theory is: the use of oxygen in the organism can be stimulated by protein compounds of sulphuric content, which make oils water-soluble and which is present in cheese, nuts, onion and leek vegetables such as leek, chive, onion and garlic, but especially cottage cheese.
A person requires daily about 4 oz. of cottage cheese mixed well with 1.5 oz. of flaxseed oil and 1 oz. of milk. A blender or egg beater works fine. The mixture can be sweeten with honey or otherwise flavoured naturally. Fresh fruits can be added. Every morning 2 spoonfuls of freshly ground flaxseed oil should be taken in luke warm buttermilk or yoghurt.
The diet is indicated for all kinds of chronic diseases, especially heart ailments (corony thrombosis), gall disorders, diabetes, arthritis, tumors,and malignancies. It improves failing hearing and sight. It is the ideal nutrient for children and infants. It is suggested that this diet be supplemented with lactic acid ferments .
Organic wheat grass is also good and can be bought in a supplement form online or at a healthfood store.
http://www.cancertutor.com/Cancer/Budwig.html.
Good luck and God Bless!
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so...what happened to Justin??
Justin's been getting professional treatment from a special center for CFS. He had indept blood tests done with results. Hes getting more blood work done tommorrow looking into hidden virus and diseases over looked by traditional medical drs. Bascially they are examing him very thoroughly from all aspects. They see patience like him daily and he feels comfortable how they are handling and explaining things. Basically he is getting the help he so needed over 2 years ago
That is good to hear. Keep us updated.
