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He trying to get back to a normal life he had and has come to realize that he needed to make several changes in both mind set and life styles in order to fully heal. He is now learning that our child hood expereience and environment we are surrounded by will affect us may be not at that time but 10,20,30 year down the line those unresolved issues will resurface that were burried deep in side us not knowing we just swept them under the rug so to speak. Issues that should have been dealt with which were not could cause us to have hidden stresses that are genetically implanted with in our DNA and as we age that information is past on. Then one day when a stress ful event happens such as Dieting for a bodybuiilding show, college,ect those unresoved issues resurface resulting adding more fuel to the fire leaving Drs stratching their heads of how to handle the situation. This my freinds is known as DNA polymorphism and is becoming more common these days...
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Maybe you have cancer or a tumour. Sorry this thread is too long for me to read the rest of the story.
His case is simple. Unresolved stress issues growing up with a child was causing him metaoblic stress resulting in undermethylation of the liver as wellas neurotranmister imbalnace. This caused changes in his intestinal flora and dybiosis of the bowel. When he adding the excessive sugar couplied with the excessive stress of dieting, caffine ephederine on top of unresolved issues the infection just came out full blown. His body was basic in panic mode and caused elevated cortisol and HPA axis dyfunction (thyroid adrenals testosterone) Since going on a lower carb no gluten or refine sugar diet. His sleep patterns have normalized as well as other noticeable improvements. It will take time to heal but he is on the road to recovery. Lesson to be learned is that if recongized early enough lifestyle modification could have been implemented and recovery time could have been reduced considerable, but we live and we learn.
well i am gonna go on a flagyl IV for lyme and trying to get a candida IV as well...The reason my situation is so unique is that I have spent a good chunk of my life avoiding people...for whatever subconcious reason I don't know...when college came along and i realized i wasn't ready for it (this was the first time I had been around so many people my own age)..i cracked, so to speak..when i got home from college that one year and realized I would just have to go back in the fall, that's when a real stone of depression hit. I am not talking ur run of the mill "I am feeling down bullshit." This is a psychotic moment, much like the one I had the first day of college, when u cannot do anything and just freeze up. Today, I have no desire to get a job or go back to school. My parents cannot figure out why, but when you've been stressed ur whole life and are forced to do things against ur will, it's not hard to see why I cracked None of the antidepressants they gave me didn't do shit..So here's the million dollar question. Is what I have Lyme/Candida and that causing my severe and disabling depression, or is it just straight out depression? would love to have some doctors debate this question
I'd say treat both, and then it doesn't matter.
What you need is incentive...like a car, or something or girl.
What you need is incentive...like a car, or something or girl.
Justin,
Some thing is stressing your body i would say its more of your accumulated stress from your child would with unresolved issues that just got burreed for many years and then slowly accumulated and your listening to the old fart about eating the carbs/dextrose was the breaking point and all of those unresolved issues were borught about and probably you may have contracted lyme many years ago and that extra stress from dieting was just the trigger mechanism. This sent your body into a stressed induced tail spin affecting mind and body leaving you with many issues you have today. One thing that will seperate candida from lyme is that your copper levels as well as your estrogen levels. I am dealing with a mess right now that is very similar but this teen is very luckly that i recognized the patterns and was able to stop the progression and is actually in promise of becoming part of the first case study of teenage ahtlete taken to the extreme. We gathering testing data on him and have even brought in the top dogs from around the country PHd's , RD's to get feed back and about his dieting and training schedule and they are more concerned of long term effects such as diabetes is the biggest one. You got my number. He also used ephederine but only for 2-3 days because it made him very sick.
justin how much water were you drinking during contes prep ? was it over 2 -3 gallons.
If you have journals back from when and what you were eating and doing may be this guy who is such an expert might have triggered off the vicious chain reactions by listening to his advice. If you want provide us with detail of your exact diet and we will consult the experts and get there opinon.
If intested he is over at our board as b.b1988.
http://www.bodyfactoryllc.com/bboard/index.php
Some thing is stressing your body i would say its more of your accumulated stress from your child would with unresolved issues that just got burreed for many years and then slowly accumulated and your listening to the old fart about eating the carbs/dextrose was the breaking point and all of those unresolved issues were borught about and probably you may have contracted lyme many years ago and that extra stress from dieting was just the trigger mechanism. This sent your body into a stressed induced tail spin affecting mind and body leaving you with many issues you have today. One thing that will seperate candida from lyme is that your copper levels as well as your estrogen levels. I am dealing with a mess right now that is very similar but this teen is very luckly that i recognized the patterns and was able to stop the progression and is actually in promise of becoming part of the first case study of teenage ahtlete taken to the extreme. We gathering testing data on him and have even brought in the top dogs from around the country PHd's , RD's to get feed back and about his dieting and training schedule and they are more concerned of long term effects such as diabetes is the biggest one. You got my number. He also used ephederine but only for 2-3 days because it made him very sick.
justin how much water were you drinking during contes prep ? was it over 2 -3 gallons.
If you have journals back from when and what you were eating and doing may be this guy who is such an expert might have triggered off the vicious chain reactions by listening to his advice. If you want provide us with detail of your exact diet and we will consult the experts and get there opinon.
If intested he is over at our board as b.b1988.
http://www.bodyfactoryllc.com/bboard/index.php
well my doctor has decided to just hand me off to one of his colleagues..he recommends a colloidal silver IV..safe to say I won't be paying my doctor any more visits anytime soon
What were your results of your urine test ? Justin you need to look into estrogen domaince/copper toxicity because that would be affecting your immune system. i seem to think you have estrogen problems going on because your homocystein is lowering which typically gets low in estrogen therapy, I have spoken to a few guys thar testosterone perfect and estrodial is fine, but there bad estrogen metabolites are off the charts which is giving them estrogen imbalances. If your dick is nto getting hard in the orning then you got estrogen imbalance going on. Estrogen will kill your imune system and will not allow body to fight off what ever is in there..
the urine test isn't coming back till next week..I still think it's lyme...startingt Samento Cat Claw when it comes in the mail..have heard great things about killing lyme, candida and other intestinal/parasitic fuckers
if i truly have lyme, i should have some kind of reaction to the Samento...Today is Day 1
yes..by Nutramedix
oh yes,,i am quite aware of the herx reaction
You are prolly aware of a huge amount of things now OTB. Much more than you used to be because you've been "advised" by so many. You could prolly take a few classes and then start doin a little advising your self for other people. Regardless of all the input you get I'm just glad to see you working through it all.
Yes justin,
You need to make more people aware of what you have been through, I am the health director where we offer metabolic testing and where we look for metabolic road blocks such as the things you have experienced and we suggest life style modifications and the least possible supplements need to help bring the body into balance. What I am saying is take the knowledge you have and write a book or turn it around and help other people as I have. I will never ever replace or be close to what Trouble ever was, but I have learned to use what i have learned and made a huge impact in peoples life and that is the best feeling of all.
You need to make more people aware of what you have been through, I am the health director where we offer metabolic testing and where we look for metabolic road blocks such as the things you have experienced and we suggest life style modifications and the least possible supplements need to help bring the body into balance. What I am saying is take the knowledge you have and write a book or turn it around and help other people as I have. I will never ever replace or be close to what Trouble ever was, but I have learned to use what i have learned and made a huge impact in peoples life and that is the best feeling of all.
well iam not healthy, still have not gotten to the root of the problem...
so my doctor research eraxis and he has never heard of it the hospitals have also never heard of it..so he called in an oral that the hospital said was extremely successful in treating it...so i will start that tomorrow...i am still waiting for my 24 hour piss test to come back so my thyroid doctor in sf can put me on some thyroid and adrenal support...as far as lyme disease goes, i am trying to beat that via the natural route...Samento salt/c protocol..i don't think antiobiotics do much good for Lyme Disease; at least not in my personal experience.
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I was researching something and my Google search brought up this post. In the beginning reading the symptoms, I thought you sounded a lot like me! Ends up I have Lyme Disease and gluten intolerance (non-celiac).
Most doctors know nothing about Lyme Disease treatment for someone who's had it for years. The treatment for right after a tick bite is about a month, but it's more long-term for those of us who've had it for a long time.
The ONLY doctors that know how to treat chronic Lyme are LLMD's (lyme literate medical doctors). You can go to Lymenet.org's message board and make a post to find one in your area. Lyme treatment for chronic Lyme can be for a year or two, or even more. Shorter treatments won't touch it.
Don't waste any more money on doctos who don't know how to treat Lyme! I fly to NY for treatment because there are no LLMD's in my state. I have both Lyme and babesia, and am on a boatload of meds for it. Chronic Lyme is tricky to treat, so you really need someone on your side who knows how to do it.
I hope you feel better soon. It took me four years (this flare-up) to get a diagnosis, and even then, I MADE my doc test me! This is the fourth flare-up in my life ...
Most LLMD's, and I know for sure the ones in SF, are holistic docs, use many supplements to build the immune system, use therapies like ART, use herbs, but use antibiotics long term where needed.
Interesting that this is a bodybuilding forum ... I think weight-lifting has really helped me stay relatively healthy despite having this wretched disease!
i don't know anyone that's been able to beat Lyme Disease...in my opinion the drugs do nothing if you've had it for a long time..i was on IV rocephin for 2 months did nothing. they also had me on doxycycline and zithromax with flagyl..and i can't afford all those drugs anyways..so fighting Lyme Disease is pretty hopeless unless u go the natural route, which i am trying to do
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Two months is nothing when you've had it long term. On Lymenet there are many people who are better and hang around the forum to lend support to those of us who are still ill. Most of them were on antibiotics for years rather than months and now have built up their immune system. Several there also use Buhner's Protocol from Healing Lyme. You have great support here, but you might like Lymenet for more information and to talk to people who are better.
At one point, you mentioned babesia. If you have that, you may want to take artemisa annua (it has to be annua), it's like the artemenisin you used to take, but it's the whole herb and you can get it without a prescription. The borrelia can live inside the babesia, so if you have babesia, you have to take care of it to get better. I bought my artemisa online, the health food stores didn't have the annua variety.
The meds are expensive, thank goodness for insurance, without it, I know what you mean about cost.
I don't know if you've found ILADS.org, it has some good information.
i've been to ilads, i went to a LLMD in santa rosa...i took the drugs..the effort it would take to find another lyme doctor who would actually be willing to see me would be exhausting, not to mention the fact my insurance wouldn't cover it...
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I see Savage's website on your sig. I'd love to hear him do a piece on Lyme! He's written nutrition books, if I remember right. Very smart guy.
took temp today..92.5 lowest it's ever been. Doc will start me on cytomel (pure T3), armour and cortef starting Monday. will slowly increase dosage over the span of 10 days..he said I had the lowest T3 he had ever seen in someone my age..big fucking surprise..and I am also getting this candida drug that my normal doc proscribed..hopefully Monday as well
candida drug is called Noxafil...peeps can research if they want..it's the shit hospitals use on the immuno-suppresant..like AIDS, cancer, etc..
The sides look like a not fun ride but noxafil looks promising as an overall immune booster and solution to your candida issues. Good luck OTB I really hope this is the one for you. If not just write it off as another chapter in your book "OTB ... Swinging For the Fences".
well i am convinced it's candida and not something else...it been quite hell..having cravings all day long, not being able to keep a job...but i just keep throwing back water and a shitload of EFA/molybdenum pills...someday hopefully i will beat it...but when i beat it would it really matter anymore? it's been nearly 3 years and i've lost everything..house, sanity, physical health, dog...add on extreme childhood stress and i wakeup wondering why i should even care anymore
