Should he get a pre-nup

[Dale Mabry]

I speak drunk, I can translate. Dude pissed on an electric fence 3 times, each time he got his pecker zapped and isn't afraid to piss on that same fence a 4th time if need be.

 

[Eggs]

I'm not a huge believer in prenups... I rather think they are trying to find an easy way out of the marriage and it makes it easier for couples to split. Thats not a way to go into a marriage IMO... it shouldnt be just a business transaction.

As far as he is concerned, it makes sense for him to move because he has the lesser paying job I guess. However, for him to put a big "fuck me over" sign on his back by signing that prenup with her is BS. A person can't ask another to sign a prenup and trust them... that goes without saying. That she doesnt trust him and is looking out for her own best interests before they even have said "I do" is a bad sign.

I dont expect to hear the best about this "to do" in the future. Keep us updated of any major developments

 

[Eggs]

btw, you wrote "trust her love is forever" in the poll. If she was trusting him and love was forever, would she be asking for a prenup to protect her assets?

 

[Dale Mabry]

He will be a fag and sign it, then he will let her put a strap-on on and complete his ass fucking.

Donald Trump was on Howards Stern talking about a friend of his who has been married 4 times, none of them with pre-nups. He was about to get married again and Trump asked him if he was going to get a pre-nup and the dude apparently finally found the right one. It only cost him about tens of millions of dollars per ex wife to find that one, who will most likely not be the one.

 

[GFR]

btw, you wrote "trust her love is forever" in the poll. If she was trusting him and love was forever, would she be asking for a prenup to protect her assets?

I put that option in for the kids and the fools

 

[Big Smoothy]

After reading all of this, it reinforces my belief that when someone is over say, 35 yeas of age, whether they have been previously married or not.

Marriage is a concept that is defined by the government. By the state.

The state basically says that your debts are hers, and her debts are yours.

And in a country where 50% - 1 out 2 marriages - end in divorce, it's better for older folks to just.

Live together and be "symbolically" married.


*Yes, I am aware of state laws regarding palimony after X amount of years, if a couple lives together.

 

[KentDog]

What about benefits of marriage, like tax breaks or being able to decide the fate of your spouse in medical situations?

 

[The Monkey Man]

He needs to protect his interest

 

[ZECH]

I will never get married again without a prenup. If I happen to die before her, she can live in my house until she dies then the kids get everything I have now. If I did get re married and divorced again, all she would get is what she brought to the marriage and what we accumilated together. Not what I brought into the marriage.

 

[bio-chem]

Its called common sense....why make the biggest business decision in your life on emotion.....wake up
Yet another post that convinces me you are a crack head.

a buisness decision? so in your eyes marriage is legalized prostitution. interesting.

 

[The Monkey Man]

a buisness decision? so in your eyes marriage is legalized prostitution. interesting.

I'll state this example again...

If you wanted to get into the stock market and...

Someone told you there was a stock, fund, or opportunity where...

1. You had to invest 100% of your savings to get in...

2. And there was a 60-65% chance that you would lose 50%
of that initial investment

3. And 50% of any profit that your investment accrued
over the duration you held it


Would you put your money in against those odds?

 

[Arnold]

Unless I missed it no one has asked what kind of doctor she is?

I am curious because that is a very large salary for a doctor, considering the average doctor in the US makes about $140k.

I would assume she is something like a brain surgeon???

 

[Arnold]

as far as the pre-nup question, if she has substantially more than him in assets then I see no problem with it, however to not have this taken care of this close to the wedding makes me question the intelligence of them both.

 

[MyK]

giving up an irriplacable job = 82K a yr

his retirement = 60K for 20 yrs (estimate)

leaving his life behind friends, family, colleagues, etc = ????

doing all this for a money hungry female!

I thought you said he has a phd in math, cuz this shit doesn't add up!!!

 

[Eggs]

I'll state this example again...

If you wanted to get into the stock market and...

Someone told you there was a stock, fund, or opportunity where...

1. You had to invest 100% of your savings to get in...

2. And there was a 60-65% chance that you would lose 50%
of that initial investment

3. And 50% of any profit that your investment accrued
over the duration you held it


Would you put your money in against those odds?

Thats why there are so many divorces these days.. people think they are playing the stock market and accidentally get married

Those numbers of 60-65% wouldn't exist if people were serious and intelligent about it. The main reason marriages fail is because people are generally lazy and fail to grow it. If it fails to grow, it gets stale and loses alot of its worth to the couples involved.

Plus, in a country where people dont know what they want to do for work until they are 30, switch jobs every time a new opportunity comes up, play the lotto because they want a "better life", etc.. well, all that doesn't add up in my mind to make people that are going to have long succesful marriages. Why? Because most people around here have a hard enough time doing it succesfully, and then expecting them to handle something of worth long term is almost rediculous.

Anyways, it does help that the average age of those getting married has increased and those people are a few % less likely to get divorced.

All that was really off subject. Marriage isnt and shouldnt be viewed like a monetary investment. I do think things like living wills and what not should be planned for... but as far as prenups, thats just putting extra weight into the divorce bag before it even starts.

 

[bandaidwoman]

Depending on what type of doctor she is (I hazard subspecialty by income either plastic surgery, ENT focusing on cosmetic surgery, OB-GYN, an oral maxillofacial surgeon, orthopedic surgeon that caters to the elite athletes etc.) she should have greater flexibility finding a job and relocating.

However, she may be senior partner in her group practice which would mean a huge buyout and a lot of legal wrangling before she can up and move elsewhere.

But as a whole, physicians have much more flexibility so I feel that if she wants a prenup, it should not be so one sided. ( As someone pointed out, he is giving up his family, friends, and a secure job with good benefits.) If someone is going to get a prenup, at least be less one sided!

 

[Velvet]

if this is a question the marriage isnt a good one

chalk another one up for the 50% divorce rate in america


your buddy just wants to play house I bet

The fact that it's 4 days before the wedding and they haven't figured this all out says something...

 

[bio-chem]

I'll state this example again...

If you wanted to get into the stock market and...

Someone told you there was a stock, fund, or opportunity where...

1. You had to invest 100% of your savings to get in...

2. And there was a 60-65% chance that you would lose 50%
of that initial investment

3. And 50% of any profit that your investment accrued
over the duration you held it


Would you put your money in against those odds?

the example only applies when you look at marriage as an aranged buisness opportunity. the sanctity of marriage unfortunately has expired for some people.

 

[GFR]

Unless I missed it no one has asked what kind of doctor she is?

I am curious because that is a very large salary for a doctor, considering the average doctor in the US makes about $140k.

I would assume she is something like a brain surgeon???

She is an ER Doctor....and the average pay for Doctors lats time I checked was over 250K......she has offers from 250K to 350K.


And it's a done deal....I just got back form the wedding....I see dead people.

 

[ponyboy]

So I guess they didn't sign the prenup. Your friend should now proceed to quit his job and live like a kept man, because that's what he is. I'd start working out and spending money like a madman. And he'd better learn how to cook.

 

[John H.]

She makes 5x as much as he does....they both have stock and investments...the thing is she wants him to quit his job and re-locate for hers....he is a teacher in the highest paid area in the country ( has worked there for 15 years...giving up full retirement ect..if he walks away) and if he leaves he cant go back to that income...not even close.

She wants him to sighn a pre-nup saying if they diverse he gets nothing at all.

Hi Foreman,

SOME money is better than none - I'd forget the marriage myself - there seems to be too much questioning about each other...


If he is getting 82 thou. that is better than no money at all. And he has a job of 15 years... What GUARANTEE is there that she won't drop him at some point later on and leave him with absolutely nothing - it is NOT worth the risk in my book. Maybe there is more going on we do not know about?

Take Care, John H.

 

[Little Wing]

giving up an irriplacable job = 82K a yr

his retirement = 60K for 20 yrs (estimate)

leaving his life behind friends, family, colleagues, etc = ????

doing all this for a money hungry female!

I thought you said he has a phd in math, cuz this shit doesn't add up!!!

lol.

 

[Little Wing]

she is a woman. dr or not her pre nup is loaded with emotion. you better not leave me or your screwed.

 

[The Monkey Man]

So I guess they didn't sign the prenup. Your friend should now proceed to quit his job and live like a kept man, because that's what he is. I'd start working out and spending money like a madman. And he'd better learn how to cook.

House husband is the best job in the world!!!!!

 

[GFR]

So I guess they didn't sign the prenup. Your friend should now proceed to quit his job and live like a kept man, because that's what he is. I'd start working out and spending money like a madman. And he'd better learn how to cook.

Funny as hell....I should E-mail this to him.

 

[ponyboy]

Funny as hell....I should E-mail this to him.

I'm pretty much a kept man right now...my g/f makes 3x what I do. She buys all the expensive meals, she buys me clothes and all I have to do is look good and flirt with her friends and do the occasional nice boyfriend things. This morning she made me breakfast and went to work while I sat on her couch in my underwear watching Sportscentre because I didn't have any clients today. It rocks - plus what I make is well hidden.

 

[maniclion]

I'm pretty much a kept man right now...my g/f makes 3x what I do. She buys all the expensive meals, she buys me clothes and all I have to do is look good and flirt with her friends and do the occasional nice boyfriend things. This morning she made me breakfast and went to work while I sat on her couch in my underwear watching Sportscentre because I didn't have any clients today. It rocks - plus what I make is well hidden.

Same boat I'm in.

 

[Arnold]

...and the average pay for Doctors lats time I checked was over 250K.

the average salary for a surgeon is probably about that, but you just said she was a doctor.

specifics bob, I need specifics.

 

[GFR]

a buisness decision? so in your eyes marriage is legalized prostitution. interesting.

You obviously have no idea of what a marriage is.............it ain't just the church....Im no laywer but I do know its a legal binding contract enforced by the state.....so yes when you consider that you assume all your partners debt, they are 50% owner in any business you start up, share all future profits 50-50....if your lucky, then there is child support, alimony..ect .....I would say yes it is a business decision.

 

[bio-chem]

You obviously have no idea of what a marriage is.............it ain't just the church....Im no laywer but I do know its a legal binding contract enforced by the state.....so yes when you consider that you assume all your partners debt, they are 50% owner in any business you start up, share all future profits 50-50....if your lucky, then there is child support, alimony..ect .....I would say yes it is a business decision.

sad, what you have reduced something as important as marriage to.