shoulders with which chest workout

[jadakris31]

i am going to do chest twice a week 5 sets each workout.. one monday one thursday...

monday is one of these two

flat bench 1 x 2,4,5
incline dumbells 2 x 4 - 6

or

incline press 3 x 8
flat dumbells 2 x 10

then thursday is one of these two

decline barbell press 1 x 8 , 7, 6
peck deck 2 x 10

or

speed benching 8 x 3
2 supersets cable crossovers / decline smith (6 - 10 reps)


.. i do my best to focus on taking shoulders out of my benching by arching my back a little but still keeping my ass on the bench .. traps down and shoulderblades together but it seems no matter what i do i hit my shoulders ALOT... furthermore im going to do shoudlers once a week with one of the two chest workouts of the week... what i be better off doing shoulders with heavy pressing (mondays) with less sets for shoulders (maybe like 6) or on thursdays when decline is the main press and do more sets (around 7)

anything is welcome.. starting next week

 

[CowPimp]

Try both ways. It depends if you like to use antagonistic muscles or not. If you do, then I would suggest hitting your shoulders on decline day. I think it's really a matter of personal preference.

 

[universe]

What's wrong with working your shoulders? is it because you feel that you need to push the weight using only your arms and chest? your chest will still get enough of a workout and will start to look good after a while.
I know a person who was born with a deformed chest and lost his dream of body building. your problem is short term.
When you get a real problem, post. Sorry buddy, but I've heard much worse.

 

[jadakris31]

thanks cowpimp ill try it on decline day...

What's wrong with working your shoulders? is it because you feel that you need to push the weight using only your arms and chest? your chest will still get enough of a workout and will start to look good after a while.
I know a person who was born with a deformed chest and lost his dream of body building. your problem is short term.
When you get a real problem, post. Sorry buddy, but I've heard much worse.

what the shit are you talking about... benching is a compound movment.. shoulders lats chest triceps.... when i bench i use my shoulders too much... very simple but somehow too complex for you to understand... benching is primarily for chest ... not shoulders...(except CG)

when i have a real problem post? are you an idiot? this forum is not for coming out of closet or complaining about your dilemmas... its a forum for bodybuiling -- i posted a bodybuilding question... not a complaint about how my body is.. im fine with it.. but i always want to imrpove... read and understand before you type and waste all of our time

 

[Saturday Fever]

If you're trying to bench for your chest, you NEED your shoulders to rotate forward to allow recruitment of the pecs.

If you demobilize your shoulders, your chest will not lift, your triceps will. Although benching with triceps is proper if you want to avoid injury. There are better ways to stimulate the pecs.

 

[jadakris31]

i know that too but its possible to use more shoulder then you want... i.e. if you dont pull your shoulderblades back --- i was just asking about a routine or a training scheldule.... not how to bench -- bowpimp pretty much anwsered it and i guess i ust have to try and see what works... but universe said some stupid stuff that wasnt so off the point

 

[Mudge]

When you get a real problem, post. Sorry buddy, but I've heard much worse.

This forum was intended for people seeking training advice and tips, not to whine, and the poster was not whining about anything.

I use powerlifter bench style and I still get a plenty stimulated chest, I haven't done any cable or fly work in a month or so.

 

[Brak86]

I train my chest 2x a week as well. If i were u, i wouldnt work ALL SHOULDERS on one day, because then ud hit shoulders 3x a week with the 2 chest and 1 shoulder workouts. If i were u, id split it up so i worked chest and anterior deltoids one day, incorporate posterior delts on back day since they get worked by some back workouts, and lateral delts u can slide in i guess on chest day as well. Just my opinion. It seems to be working for me so far.

 

[P-funk]

What's wrong with working your shoulders? is it because you feel that you need to push the weight using only your arms and chest? your chest will still get enough of a workout and will start to look good after a while.
I know a person who was born with a deformed chest and lost his dream of body building. your problem is short term.
When you get a real problem, post. Sorry buddy, but I've heard much worse.

Not to deviate from the original thread Jadakris has started but i gotta ask......How the hell can a person loose their dreamof bodybuilding if they were born with a deforemd chest? it is not like they lifted weights prior to that and had something happen to them that would keep them from bodybuilding. This person had the problem form the get go so there was really no dream to take away.

Second....the inclusion of your story in response to Jadakris's question is just idiotic.

 

[jadakris31]

ditto