slight insomnia lately and lethargy while on Dbol/Tcyp/Eq...any advice?

[that_guy]

I have searched and although found some info, I didn't really see a lot of input on the subject. I am wondering if any of you guys had any advice.

Currently on week 7 of my cycle which is:

Weeks 1-6 30mg/d of Dbol
Weeks 1-12 Test Cyp 400mg/wk
Weeks 1-12 Eq 400mg/wk
Weeks 8-16 50mg/d Anavar with PCT starting at Week 12 and going for 6 weeks (week 18)

1.) Shots are M/Th @200mg of each compound
2.) 500IU of HCG taken the night before (Sun/Wed) each week which started at week 4.
3.) AI's were Ndex @ 20mg/d and Aromasin @ 25mg/d while on the dbol and have been reduced to 10mg/d and 12.5mg/d respectively
4.) 25mcg/d of T3 in the mornings

I felt great the first 3-4 weeks and now I feel like I am tried all the time. Sometimes I cant sleep at night which obviously compounds the effect during the day. Caffeine does not even help anymore even at 400mg in one shot. My diet is:

400G of Protein/d
200-300 CHO/d (400-500/d on lifting days which is 3 days per week)
100G of Fat/d
1 gallon of water/d

I am up a solid 15lbs (recently lost about 5lbs when dropping the dbol). Strength is still increasing and gym performance is good. Water retention is low with little sides (except the lethargy/tiredness) but I have notice my face is a little puffy and feels "tight" upon waking and goes away as the day goes on but overall I am not smooth looking and can see abs.

Any suggestions?

TIA

 

[that_guy]

so out of 86 views, no one has any input? btw, forgot to mention at start of cycle I was 205 and currently am 227

 

[tinyshrek]

Really hard to say bro... Could be blood pressure which dbol def can cause... Also some people complain of anxiety type issues while on EQ so that may be it as well.

 

[gamma]

I have insomnia and anxiety with test and hcg only. So who knows everybody is so different . Jus part of it either deal with it and continue on, drop down your doses one compound at a time to finger out with one is causing it , or stop the cycle .

 

[dieseljimmy]

I have the same issues early in every cycle. I also snore early in every cycle. Which leads me to think wieght gain(and water retention) in th chest/shoulder/neck area results in slight changes in sleeping positions or pressure is applied to some part of your breathing operation...
The snoring, rolling around at right, and sleep quality seems to get better as cycle goes on. My body seems to adapt.
im actually going thought insomnia right now. I also wake up hungry which does not help going right back to sleep.

 

[that_guy]

thanks for the posts guys, appreciate it. helps give me some better insight at least.

 

[Digitalash]

dbol gave me some lethargy towards the end, if it's real bad I would drop that or just finish your kickstart. I feel great on just test though and was better almost immediately after stopping the dbol

 

[Chrisotpherm]

I had similar experience running
d-bol at 50mgs a day and test use was at 750mgs a week. I know it wasnt from the test as I have ran many tiles before with no sleeping problems. After adding in dbol my bp went up and that led me to believe as to why I couldn't sleep as I was uncomfortably hot and sweaty at night.

 

[effinrob]

i was having the same problem at night hot and sweaty and couldnt sleep... im running 600mg eq and 600mg test. I honestly think it was just my body adjusting to the hormone change because i have been sleeping good now and not soaking my bed by sweating massive amounts

 

[that_guy]

dbol gave me some lethargy towards the end, if it's real bad I would drop that or just finish your kickstart. I feel great on just test though and was better almost immediately after stopping the dbol

I have been off the dbol for about 10 days now. I dropped 3-4 lbs since (figuring due to water since my strength is still climbing)

 

[that_guy]

I had similar experience running
d-bol at 50mgs a day and test use was at 750mgs a week. I know it wasnt from the test as I have ran many tiles before with no sleeping problems. After adding in dbol my bp went up and that led me to believe as to why I couldn't sleep as I was uncomfortably hot and sweaty at night.

Yeah, my BP is slightly elevated but like I mentioned, I have been off the dbol for about 10 days now and have not checked my BP but am assuming it has gone down since I normally don't have a problem with it. I also was/still am slightly having the night sweats but thought it was from the 25mcg of t3. The only thing I am on now besides that lose does of t3 is Test cyp and EQ both at 400mg/wk. Maybe its the EQ, don't know but I have run it before (years ago) and don't remember these sides from it.