Solid meals vs liquid

[r0dxx]

I am still very confused about this subject. I've asked many times but I'm still a little iffy. When I say shake or liquid, the protein source is a powder form either whey (morning/pre/post) and casien (other times) but it is grouped with oats or almonds/walnuts.

My morning and pre w/o shakes are mixed with milk and oats, and the other shake between dinner and bedtime is taken with walnuts and is casien mixed with milk.

Lets say...I have a shake for breakfast, then a solid food meal, then a pre workout shake, then a solid food meal, then a shake, then a solid meal before bed...

How would my gains be hindered, if everything is in check total calories and ratios for the day? For example I am on a 3000 calorie diet...

Everyone says stick to solid meals. If I were to eat all my meals solid other then pre/post, would I really see any significant physical diffrerences? Would my body fat be different, would I have much better gains?

Other then the body using more calories to digest whole food, and that you feel fuller, I don't really see what the big deal is? Can anyone give me some insight. Usually I do 4 solid meals and 2 shakes, but lately it seems to be half and half 3 solid and 3 shakes since, I've been on the run.

My 3 solid meals are usually cottage cheese, tuna, or egg beaters. Sometimes cottage cheese twice.

 

[GFR]

I eat 6x a day, 4 are solid food 2 are liquid

 

[r0dxx]

I eat 6x a day, 4 are solid food 2 are liquid

I do the same thing...But some days are 3 solid and 3 liquid. Probally 3 days a week, but usually 4 solid.

 

[NEW_IN_THE_GAME]

well i eat 8-10 meals . i know it is alot but hey. 5-6 are whole food, if i want to snake i have protein shakes. like if i am working out. i drink a pre and post shake and one before bed. so three a day, and 5 whole food meals. but if i want a snack i grab a scoop and some oats. keeps me away from candy. good thing i never really liked it. my whole food meals are. 96/4 ground beef, chicken breast, whole eggs and whites, and tuna. and stuff like oats, whole wheat breads, and rice. plus in each shake i add a banana and oats. 80grams oats preworkout, and 100g post. till i get some more vitargo or dextrose.

so for you i would say 4 whole food or 5 and 1-2 shakes. shakes post workout, and when you wake. whey and glutamine will stop the catabolic responses of the night. then like an hour later have whole food, before bed have a cup of cottage cheese. which i do not really like. you will be set

 

[FenderBender]

I say experiment!!!

If your not in a rush to compeat: take very carful measurments, Log your meals and workouts,and your mood/enegy levels. Do say 12 weeks with all "solid food", and then 12 weeks with shakes and the like.

Compare and analize your results and see how your body reacts and you'll have some imperical data to back it up.

One of the reasons I say to log your mood is to check it against the results. there are times when I could have sworn that I was "getting fat, or was soft" but the results showed different. Our minds can play nasty tricks on us.......

 

[myCATpowerlifts]

I say experiment!!!

If your not in a rush to compeat: take very carful measurments, Log your meals and workouts,and your mood/enegy levels. Do say 12 weeks with all "solid food", and then 12 weeks with shakes and the like.

Compare and analize your results and see how your body reacts and you'll have some imperical data to back it up.

One of the reasons I say to log your mood is to check it against the results. there are times when I could have sworn that I was "getting fat, or was soft" but the results showed different. Our minds can play nasty tricks on us.......

I'm sure he wants to spend half a year figuring out how many shakes he should have

 

[FenderBender]

I'm sure he wants to spend half a year figuring out how many shakes he should have

I feel its alot better to take 10 min. a day for 6 months and get some real feedback on whats going on, rather than depending on the opinions of some dipshits (myself included) on a forum

Come on, I don't think its just me, but don't alot of you take notes, or do you just wing it ???? How many things have we bought into because we were told its supposed to be good for you. At 19, if Arnold would have said hike 10 miles in the snow naked, build a snow woman and F--- it 3 times doing push ups inbetween ,to gain 20 lbs of muscle.......well OK thats just stupid, I could never do a snow woman more than twice before frezing my pecker off

.....But at 19 I was very impressionable. The original poster states he has 5 year goals of packing on some serious muscle......So myCAT, whats wrong with taking a few notes to have another tool to work with ????

 

[myCATpowerlifts]

I feel its alot better to take 10 min. a day for 6 months and get some real feedback on whats going on, rather than depending on the opinions of some dipshits (myself included) on a forum

Come on, I don't think its just me, but don't alot of you take notes, or do you just wing it ???? How many things have we bought into because we were told its supposed to be good for you. At 19, if Arnold would have said hike 10 miles in the snow naked, build a snow woman and F--- it 3 times doing push ups inbetween ,to gain 20 lbs of muscle.......well OK thats just stupid, I could never do a snow woman more than twice before frezing my pecker off

.....But at 19 I was very impressionable. The original poster states he has 5 year goals of packing on some serious muscle......So myCAT, whats wrong with taking a few notes to have another tool to work with ????

Your analogy sucks bro, it's not even comparable to what we are talking about...

Anyway, I understand where you are coming from, but this isn't quite rocket science. Of course everyone is different and such, but basic guidelines should be fine for any healthy person.

We all know real food is better than liquid. So I would advise him to just take a shake after his workout. And maybe one WITH breakfast.

 

[FenderBender]

Your analogy sucks bro, it's not even comparable to what we are talking about...

Anyway, I understand where you are coming from, but this isn't quite rocket science. Of course everyone is different and such, but basic guidelines should be fine for any healthy person.

We all know real food is better than liquid. So I would advise him to just take a shake after his workout. And maybe one WITH breakfast.

Uh, my analogy was a joke, hence the D )

I agree with you that this isn't rocket science, but boy do I wish that someone would have suggested to me when I was 19 to start logging my diet and workouts, it would have saved me alot of grief.....but thats me.

My only point is to get people to reley on what their own bodys telling them instead of the opinions of strangers who don't know them.