Soy Milk and Estrogen?

[BillHicksFan]

1. Im working in a Soy milk factory so I have unlimited protein shakes, but will they give me bitch-tits (or have any negative affect) despite the fact I supplement with test?

2. Will drinking Soy milk make me gay?

 

[bdeljoose]

I don't think soy milk will make you gay. It might make you carry a man purse, grow a beard, put your hair in a pony tail and wear sandals with socks. JK. I have never tried soy milk.

 

[BillHicksFan]

I thought only fags drink soy milk, but it tastes pretty good and sometimes I forget my lunch. Im running test without an AI and I'm a little concerned about the repercussions.

 

[bdeljoose]

I would probably concerned also. They pay you pretty good there?

 

[BillHicksFan]

Enough to be able to afford AIs.

 

[SFW]

I liked soy milk. But im running an ai. If u were, you'd have no worries. Btw, how much T are you abusing without an AI?

 

[BillHicksFan]

I liked soy milk. But im running an ai. If u were, you'd have no worries. Btw, how much T are you abusing without an AI?

Jumped on a test only cycle 3 weeks ago.
750mg test sust/week, give or take. As its UGL, probably take. I have some outdated sten aromasin here but I plan to order more soon. Its 2 years old. Is it worth risking?

In your opinion, is soy really that bad or is it not worth worrying about?

 

[OfficerFarva]

It has a lot of phytoestrogens in it so for that reason alone I'd avoid it. I also hate the taste lol. Your aromasin is probably still ok but only blood work will let you know.

 

[exphys88]

The idea that soy products will make you grow boobs is ridiculous. phytoestrogens are actually good for you, as well as all the other phytonutrients in soy milk. Don't buy into the propaganda. Japanese men have been eating soy products for generations and they don't have boobs. In fact, they're very healthy when they stick to their cultures original diet.

The issue with soy products, is that the people that eat them are usually vegetarian and eat tons of it. A diet that is overly saturated with one food product is not healthy regardless of what the food is. Soy products, as part of a well balanced diet are healthy.

 

[MuscleGauge1]

I don't think soy milk will make you gay. It might make you carry a man purse, grow a beard, put your hair in a pony tail and wear sandals with socks. JK. I have never tried soy milk.

LOL This^

 

[BillHicksFan]

The idea that soy products will make you grow boobs is ridiculous. phytoestrogens are actually good for you, as well as all the other phytonutrients in soy milk. Don't buy into the propaganda. Japanese men have been eating soy products for generations and they don't have boobs. In fact, they're very healthy when they stick to their cultures original diet.

The issue with soy products, is that the people that eat them are usually vegetarian and eat tons of it. A diet that is overly saturated with one food product is not healthy regardless of what the food is. Soy products, as part of a well balanced diet are healthy.

Japanese men dont have boobs but they do have extremely small penises. Coincidence?

Thanks for your response, exphys. I was just kidding about the man-boobs but more concerned about estrogen related cancer and other sides that I wouldn't be aware of without blood work. I'll throw in some aromasin to be safe as I should be doing that anyway.

Do you think that consuming 5 litres a week would be ok for a gear user with a balanced diet?

 

[colochine]

I used to work for A soy milk plant a few years back, some of it is very good lol. I was drinking a ton of
It and I think the good flavors are pretty fattening.

I also looked up isoflavones relationship to estrogenic side effects. I could not find any conclusive data. I did read however consumption or large quantities of soy products by pregnant women could influence the sex of the unborn child.

I got a better job and gave up on the research however lol.

 

[BillHicksFan]

I used to work for A soy milk plant a few years back, some of it is very good lol. I was drinking a ton of
It and I think the good flavors are pretty fattening.

I just drink the protein and vitamin enriched soy without added sugar but yeah, it tastes surprisingly good after you get used to it.

I also looked up isoflavones relationship to estrogenic side effects. I could not find any conclusive data. I did read however consumption or large quantities of soy products by pregnant women could influence the sex of the unborn child.

That's impossible. It's the male sperm which determines the gender of the unborn child. They could turn out to be extremely gay but I cant find any conclusive data to back that up.

I got a better job and gave up on the research however lol.

Gee thanks. My self esteem has just sky-rocketed, although I didn't mention ​what role I recently attained.

 

[Powermaster]

The idea that soy products will make you grow boobs is ridiculous. phytoestrogens are actually good for you, as well as all the other phytonutrients in soy milk. Don't buy into the propaganda. Japanese men have been eating soy products for generations and they don't have boobs. In fact, they're very healthy when they stick to their cultures original diet.

The issue with soy products, is that the people that eat them are usually vegetarian and eat tons of it. A diet that is overly saturated with one food product is not healthy regardless of what the food is. Soy products, as part of a well balanced diet are healthy.

Japanese men don't eat nearly as much soy as we think they do and they soy they do eat isn't the GMO shit we use here in the US.

OP Read the label. I think you'll find you are taking in way more sugar (added for flavor) than actual soy protein. In other words, to get enough protein from the soy milk you'll have to drink allot of it and then you'll also be taking in a huge amount a sugar which is probably the most detrimental of any of the other sides you may get from drinking soy milk.

 

[BillHicksFan]

Japanese men don't eat nearly as much soy as we think they do and they soy they do eat isn't the GMO shit we use here in the US.

OP Read the label. I think you'll find you are taking in way more sugar (added for flavor) than actual soy protein. In other words, to get enough protein from the soy milk you'll have to drink allot of it and then you'll also be taking in a huge amount a sugar which is probably the most detrimental of any of the other sides you may get from drinking soy milk.

Youre right, and I'm well aware of this. It's 8% protein and 15% carbs. Far from ideal but I've been using the "anything is better than nothing" rule and as I haven't trained in almost a year due to injury the doms is insane!
I'll get more organised shortly but this new shift work schedule has thrown out my routine. Usually I'm anal about my meals and never miss a beat.

There's no GMO products on our line and there's organic to chose from as well. It's made from local beans to milk on site and none of that pre-made powder shit that other companies produce.

Im also taking t3 so that will help in the meantime until I get my new routine down.

 

[theCaptn']

1. Im working in a Soy milk factory so I have unlimited protein shakes, but will they give me bitch-tits (or have any negative affect) despite the fact I supplement with test?

2. Will drinking Soy milk make me gay?

Soy is a pre-cursor for trannydom

 

[BillHicksFan]

Soy is a pre-cursor for trannydom

In that case I'll start dropping off a few litres to my neighbour on a daily basis. Who knows, in 12 months time we could possibly spark up a friendship.

 

[exphys88]

Japanese men don't eat nearly as much soy as we think they do and they soy they do eat isn't the GMO shit we use here in the US.

OP Read the label. I think you'll find you are taking in way more sugar (added for flavor) than actual soy protein. In other words, to get enough protein from the soy milk you'll have to drink allot of it and then you'll also be taking in a huge amount a sugar which is probably the most detrimental of any of the other sides you may get from drinking soy milk.

I buy the plain kind w no added sugar, but I only drink it probably a couple times a month. You're right, most of it has a ton of sugar, but if you don't eat a lot of sweets, it's probably not a big deal.

 

[exphys88]

Japanese men don't eat nearly as much soy as we think they do and they soy they do eat isn't the GMO shit we use here in the US.

OP Read the label. I think you'll find you are taking in way more sugar (added for flavor) than actual soy protein. In other words, to get enough protein from the soy milk you'll have to drink allot of it and then you'll also be taking in a huge amount a sugar which is probably the most detrimental of any of the other sides you may get from drinking soy milk.

since you negged me for my post, I'm going to call you out on your post and ask you to back up your claims.

First, provide some evidence that gmo foods are bad for us. You must've read some research about this, or you wouldn't be making these claims, right?

Second, what does "don't eat nearly as much soy as we think" amount to? Do you have numbers on this?

third, explain this statement: "sugar which is probably the most detrimental of any of the other sides you may get from drinking soy milk." I didn't realize sugar caused sides, and what are the other "sides" that soy milk produces? btw, there is soy milk that doesn't have added sugar. Please back up with evidence.

soy beans are a legume and can be incredibly healthy if eaten as part of a well rounded diet, just like every other legume. It's not intelligent to demonize particular foods as good or bad, and it shows your lack of education on the subject. There is no food that is "bad" for us, there are just some foods that we should eat more of, and others that we should eat less of.

This does not mean I'm advocating eating tons of soy products, just like I wouldn't advise someone to eat tons of red or processed meats. It's what we do most of the time that determines our health.

 

[Powermaster]

since you negged me for my post, I'm going to call you out on your post and ask you to back up your claims.

First, provide some evidence that gmo foods are bad for us. You must've read some research about this, or you wouldn't be making these claims, right?

Second, what does "don't eat nearly as much soy as we think" amount to? Do you have numbers on this?

third, explain this statement: "sugar which is probably the most detrimental of any of the other sides you may get from drinking soy milk." I didn't realize sugar caused sides, and what are the other "sides" that soy milk produces? btw, there is soy milk that doesn't have added sugar. Please back up with evidence.

soy beans are a legume and can be incredibly healthy if eaten as part of a well rounded diet, just like every other legume. It's not intelligent to demonize particular foods as good or bad, and it shows your lack of education on the subject. There is no food that is "bad" for us, there are just some foods that we should eat more of, and others that we should eat less of.

This does not mean I'm advocating eating tons of soy products, just like I wouldn't advise someone to eat tons of red or processed meats. It's what we do most of the time that determines our health.

Drink that shit if you like, me no way am I drinking soy milk or any of that GMO crap. Feed that factory shit to the starving people in impoverished counties, me, I'm sticking to good old fashioned small farm grown food.

Effin Bro science....

 

[exphys88]

I actually eat mostly organic and non gmo foods. But if you want to be objective, you have to accept that there is zero evidence that doing so makes you healthier.
Personally, i assume that soon we may start to see a difference, but until then, you can't make claims without backing it up w peer reviewed science.

 

[Powermaster]

Soy Alert! Brochure - Weston A Price Foundation
Here's one of many.
Bottom line: soy milk is a processed food. Last time I checked soy beans don't have tits.

 

[brazey]

Good to see a fellow WAPF member on the board!

 

[exphys88]

Soy Alert! Brochure - Weston A Price Foundation
Here's one of many.
Bottom line: soy milk is a processed food. Last time I checked soy beans don't have tits.

now that's some scientific stuff right there! lol

you're right, soy milk is a processed food and should be consumed in small portions just like every other processed food. It's not the devil though, so stop with the propaganda.

 

[bjg]

soy milk is very good source of protein ..its estrogenic effects are not a bad thing at all and it will not affect your muscles at all ...it was jut a propaganda advertising against soy;;;i drink it all the time and i don;t have tits so far

 

[bjg]

soy milk is very good source of protein ..its estrogenic effects are not a bad thing at all and it will not affect your muscles at all ...it was jut a propaganda advertising against soy;;;i drink it all the time and i don;t have tits so far

 

[TJTJ]

...I did read however consumption or large quantities of soy products by pregnant women could influence the sex of the unborn child...

No way this is true. That would mean Soy has the ability to mutate and alter already predetermined genetic sequences.

OP, A good alternative to Soy would be Almond Milk. The only two I drink is Orignial, which has a bit of sugar. Or Unsweetened which doesn't taste like much but I dont care about flavor. IMO Ditch the Soy and go with the Almond Milk.

 

[exphys88]

No way this is true. That would mean Soy has the ability to mutate and alter already predetermined genetic sequences.

OP, A good alternative to Soy would be Almond Milk. The only two I drink is Orignial, which has a bit of sugar. Or Unsweetened which doesn't taste like much but I dont care about flavor. IMO Ditch the Soy and go with the Almond Milk.

I heard almond milk will make your ears grow and make you blind.

Almonds don't have nipples, therefore we shouldn't drink almond MILK.

 

[colochine]

No way this is true. That would mean Soy has the ability to mutate and alter already predetermined genetic sequences.

OP, A good alternative to Soy would be Almond Milk. The only two I drink is Orignial, which has a bit of sugar. Or Unsweetened which doesn't taste like much but I dont care about flavor. IMO Ditch the Soy and go with the Almond Milk.

Environmental effects on fetal sex determination.

 

[MuscleGauge1]

In that case I'll start dropping off a few litres to my neighbour on a daily basis. Who knows, in 12 months time we could possibly spark up a friendship.

12months. Don't wait so long. Ring their doorbell in 3months. Should be enough time for the boobs to grow.