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Spawn. How well does it work and what do i need

loeyz

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I have started to work out and eat right and I am looking for a supplement to aid my hard work. I have read countless positive reviews on a pill called Spawn and literally have not heard to many bad things about it. My question is basically, is this true, and what else should I take with this. I am 5'7 230 pounds and want to get down to about 190-200 as my first major goal. I want to build muscle as a lose weight. I need to know what products I should take along with Spawn. I need exact names and no abbreviations because I dont understand those terms. Thank you for any advice and info!!!
 
Hey, whoah - let's see your diet and training before you go head-first into supplement land.

How about this - read the link in my sig on getting started, and come back with some numbers and your workout, k?
 
I should of posted this with my question but heres the deal. I do not plan on taking anything right away. I only plan on taking something a little ways down the road when Im well on my way to my goals. I used and the calculator and this is what I got for results. (I am 5'7 around 235 pounds.)
Lean Mass - 148 lbs (63%)
Fat Mass - 87 lbs (37%) I know I am very overweight and i have recently started walking/jogging 5 days a week,and doing pushups and situps as well. I cant afford the gym right now and have no equipment to work out. Im looking for weights and stuff on craigslist. I have started eating better but dont think i can afford to go buy healthy foods. If someone could help me with a workout plan and a good diet plan I would greatly appreciate it. The supplement question was for down the road when im making progress already.
 
loeyz, it's good to read ahead and do research. It's always a good idea to scope out where you're going.

Regarding diet and training - read the link in my sig on getting started. I actually wouldn't recommend jogging while you're significantly overweight; not only is cardio overrated for significant fat-loss, quite frankly - and as a former fat jogger, I speak from experience - you're too heavy for it to do your feet and knees any good. Walking is always a good idea though, and if you like to ride a bike that's an option as well.
 
yea i noticed that. After jogging my feet and sometimes my knees hurt a little more than usual. My goal weight is around 180 and Ill do whatever it takes. I am going to read that link. I appreciate it..and any additional help is welcome from all.
 
I must be honest and say that confused the Heck out of me. My eyes burn lol. Is it possible, at all, for someone to sum that up into something basic. What vitamins I need to take,when I need to take them, and some good exercises. Also, I plan on eating less carbs but not going on a total no carbs diet
 
That link is the simplest thing I could recommend.

What part did you have trouble with - we'll break it down one step at a time.
 
Sure I can sum it up.

Diet: Take in less calories than you use (maintenance) and you will lose weight. More and you will gain. Track your calories and weight (fitday.com is great for this), shoot for about 2-3 lbs lost per week, and tailor your calories accordingly.

Shoot for 200+ grams of protein daily, keep your carbs low, and fats reasonable. Start with about 2300-2500 cals per day and see where that gets you. If you lose less than 2 lbs in a week, go try a little lower, if you lose more than 3 raise them slightly.

Weight training: At your level of fitness, 2-3 Full body workouts per week is plenty. You will obviously be dieting down, and will only be trying to hold onto muscle at this point. There are others here much more experienced at setting this up, but here is an example, (Built, stop me if I am wrong on any of this):

Workout 1:
Squat: 3x8
Chin-ups: 5x5
Military Press: 3x8

Workout 2:
Deadlift: 3x8
Lunges: 3x8
Dips: 3x10

Workout 3:
Bench Press: 3x8
Romanian Deadlifts: 3x8
T-Bar rows: 3x8

These are pretty basic, but at your level of fitness, they are plenty. You can always change it up in a couple of months if your progress slows, but at this anything would be great and will move you in the right direction.

Skip a day between workouts.

Cardio:

If running is hurting you, just start walking 3 times a week. 2-30 mins per day, with your heart rate at 120 bpm at least (no science behind this number I dont think, its just to make sure you aren't cheating).

When you can handle HIIT training start using that.

Don't jog. Jogging is just not all that great. Walk or run.

Supplementation:
Stick to the basics for now. A multivitamin, fish oil, and possibly a decent whey and creatine, although these aren't neccessary.

That's about as basic as it gets bro. As a former fatty I can honestly say that it's in your court. You probably aren't fat becuase of hereditary issues, genetic this or thyroid that. You are fat because it is more fun to eat and sit on your ass. I did it, and the vast majority of fatties did it, and the only way to fix it is to get off your ass and do it.

I am not nearly as experienced as the majority of the people on this site, but if I can help in anyway let me know.

How did I do Built?
 
Muscle Gelz Transdermals
IronMag Labs Prohormones
You nailed it. :)
 
I really do want to thank both of you. I have battled weight my whole life and mostly due to confidence. There is no history of obesity in my family unless you count the old people who just kind of well, Got old. I am about to be 24 and am so sick and tired of the life I live. Its funny because my father is big into working out. The only reason I dont go to him is because I want t osuprise him with my weight loss and body transformation. Also to, I was wondering what you all thing about this. I am the type that likes to research online and I came across something that dealt with low testosterone levels and I seem to fit the criteria well. Im guessing this could be due to always being over weight, but also I was born about 2 months premature and was wondering if that might have something to do with it. I think this because last year I started going to the gym pretty hard for a few months and really did not see any muscle gains(was also doing 45 min of cardio on the bike each gym visit,4-5 days a week) I know im going off topic but I figured since youll are helping me i might as well throw it out there...again..THANKS!!!
 
Getting your blood work done and having your test levels checked isn't a bad idea, but I would be 99.99% sure that this isn't the issue. You probably weren't putting on much muscle mass because of a flawed diet and exercise program. Also, if you were fat, it can be hard to notice muscle gains. 45 mins per day of cardio 4-5 times a week sounds like a disaster for muscle mass in my opinion.

The hardest thing for me is that I wanted results, and I wanted them right there right then. It just doesn't work that way. This takes time, patience, and a lot of dedication. That's the bad news, the good news is that it is not difficult to do.

I literally have my friends asking me what juice I am on, the guys I work with come to me for exercise advice, and I look pretty darn ok, and this is coming from someone who was 265lbs in February.

Try the above program for 3 months. That sounds like a long time, but it isn't at all. 1/4 of a year invested to completely change your life is a small sacrifice. Take before pics, then take a pic once a week, keep them, dont show them to anyone, and watch your transformation. Record your weight and measurements once per week. These are all things that will keep you motivated.

Remember, you don't have to starve yourself. 2300-2500 cals a day is a lot of food, and you can still eat what you want in moderation. In the meantime, if you have the means to get your test levels checked do it. Nothing to lose by finding out:)

You can do this, and I wish you luck.
 
thanks. Just came down with swine so once this is past i am starting. And you are 100% right about how 3 months is nothing. 3 months fly's by when you do nothing lol. Why not do something while doing nothing. I like the idea of before,during, and after pics. Thanks
 
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