Squatting with a hoodie

[Mudge]

Mudge has bad knees.

No bad knees, just not enough core. I am switched my ab training a few weeks ago and are doing GMs again. This is why my dead and squat aren't where they should be.

the most you have squated is 385? but you did bench 405?

I have benched 450 (shirted), 425 raw, never tried pulling more than 5 plates, and squatted 385 for 2 or 3 - its in my training logs somewhere, I dont remember. I am 6'2" and my ab work isn't up to par apparently, because I just dont squat well, but I have leg pressed 1210x20 not counting the sled.

 

[Doublebase]

In theory, shouldn't you be able to squat more then you bench and deadlift more then you squat?

 

[largepkg]

as a matter of fact, you little smart ass, thats right. if you need padding for your squat so your little mincy traps don't hurt then you best leave the heavy weights to the men and go join a pilates class. Its extremely important to not use padding or shirts or anything thats going to obstruct the grip and placement between the bar and your bar. you can roll your eyes and be a patronizing little bastard all you want but if you ever plan to get your squat past 250 and into a heavier range, its gonna be important that the bar doesn't roll off your back or that it doesn't move in the slightest in mid motion. Fuccin little adolescent no it alls

I use a pad. I believe you should use whatever you feel comfortable with. I certainly am not the biggest here nor the smallest. I squat 315 x 12 with a pad. Does that make me a potential pilates member?

We use the tools to help. The pad is a tool for me.

 

[largepkg]

In theory, shouldn't you be able to squat more then you bench and deadlift more then you squat?

I'm not sure you can paint that broad a stroke. It does work out that way for me though.

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[Mudge]

In theory, shouldn't you be able to squat more then you bench and deadlift more then you squat?

World record bench 1005
World record dead 933
World record squat last I heard 1275

Sled pulling is probably in my future.

 

[joesmooth20]

i haven't done squats without one on for probably 3yrs. Hoodies rock

 

[HardTrainer]

World record bench 1005
World record dead 933
World record squat last I heard 1275

Sled pulling is probably in my future.

notice the bench is higher then the deadlift, its because the guys that bench that much only move the bar half the distance of normall guys as they have shuch puffed out chests and short joints the bar dosnt have to travel much to touch the chest, while deadlifting is almost imposiible to cheat in that way

 

[HardTrainer]

World record bench 1005
World record dead 933
World record squat last I heard 1275

Sled pulling is probably in my future.

mudge man why cant you squat more? i can nearly squat what you do but my bench is no way near your and my quads are smaller also i am tall like you.

 

[Mudge]

while deadlifting is almost imposiible to cheat in that way

Sumo.

mudge man why cant you squat more? i can nearly squat what you do but my bench is no way near your and my quads are smaller also i am tall like you.

Core strength. I had problems with my wrists squatting, so I generally just dont squat. It works everything BUT my legs. I leg press far more, so when I want a good leg workout I generally leg press. Like I posted, I am doing good mornings, and I changed my ab routine in hopes of upping my core strength because I would like to do a push/pull meet.

 

[devildog88]

Hey Mudge,
I wouldn't worry about squating! Your legs look good so what ever you are doing seems to be working! I have fucking pins and I squat twice a week and can't seen to get them to grow!

 

[Mudge]

Until I start squatting in the 500s for reps I likely wont get much leg stimulus from them.

When I think back to when I joined a commercial gym, I was squatting between 95-185, 185 would be a big ass squatting day for me back then. All my squats are ATF fwiw.

 

[musclepump]

I've squatted 505 for one rep. Yes, with a pad. Never feels as if it will roll.

 

[Squaggleboggin]

The bench is probably bigger than the deadlift because of bench shirts. I know this will probably start an argument, but I don't think that if you need a shirt to help you that you can actually bench that much. I'm not saying they aren't useful for people with injuries and other types of situations, but I think the record for benching should just be the raw bench. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wrist straps are used for deadlifts when a person's forearms aren't as strong as his/her back; what exactly do shirts do besides provide a spring-like action to add more weight?

Oh, and I don't appreciate the way you decided to generalize my entire generation on your little power trip, gr81. Please grow up.

 

[Mudge]

When deadlifts are done they wear a suit, although it does not seem to help as much as when squatting or benching. Just so that we are on the same page, while a suit for deadlifting is allowed, chalk is the only hand assistance legal - no straps.

Glen Chabot was one of the premier raw benchers before he dissapeared, he was close to the 700s but tore his pec twice. That is why raw benching big weights is not popular, the shoulders and chest muscles were not built for 700+ pound bench presses. With drugs, and even some genetics for some people, humans are pushing more weights than nature built some of us for. Thats common sense, everything has a breaking point. Shirts are for safety, but YES they also happen to give a boost in the bottom portion of the range. And if you know your "gear" then you will get enough snap out of your shirt that tricep strength gets to take over and you carry the momentum through the rep, locking out 200+ pounds over a raw bench potentially.

If you are benching 300, 400 or even 500 pounds you may go your entire life without a pec tear. But the guys lifting serious weights need those shirts.

 

[Mudge]

I've squatted 505 for one rep. Yes, with a pad. Never feels as if it will roll.

I've had a pad roll on me once when I was very sweaty, I wasn't supporting the weight forcefully enough with my wrists. Ended up hurting my wrists for about 3 weeks killing my benching as well.

 

[gr81]

Oh, and I don't appreciate the way you decided to generalize my entire generation on your little power trip, gr81. Please grow up.

you thikn I get a power trip out of arguing with little ones like you, think again. The fact of the matter is using a pad is not effective. Tell me how many serious squatters or anyone in a meet uses a shirt of pad, go ahead. Not one person does it. I don't care how many people here do it, they shouldn't. It has nothing to do with your generation, I coach several kids in strength training that are your age or older and of course I have no problem with them or their age, its you rolling your eyes like you know something..

 

[Mudge]

If you like a pad, use it! But yes it is true, you wont see a pad hardly ever, if ever, in meets. I dont happen to know but they might not even be allowed, I've never seen one used at the Arnold or any other PL meet.

 

[gr81]

wouldn't you agree mudge, that its vital to have the bar as stable as possible during the squat, ESPECIALLY when going heavier? a person needs to find that ridge that comfortable for them, that spot, and using a pad will never be as stable as without..

 

[PreMier]

You never see them in meets because its a 'pussy pad'. "owww my pussy hurts"

But seriously, like the g-man says.. you want the bar to be stable. Any slight fatigue and it could slip(just like Mudge mentioned above). I would work on finding good bar placement, rather than risk using a pad. Not to mention bar placement is crucial.

 

[Yanick]

doesn't seem to me like a pad would be useful to a PL'er seeing as most squat low bar.

i used to get black and blue and peeled skin and popped cartilage, but it all goes away with time. and i recently started oly lifting heavy and when that bar hits your shoulders/collar bone etc it leaves black and blues and cuts but that is pretty much going away too.

 

[Mudge]

wouldn't you agree mudge, that its vital to have the bar as stable as possible during the squat, ESPECIALLY when going heavier? a person needs to find that ridge that comfortable for them, that spot, and using a pad will never be as stable as without..

Almost everyone will tell you where between the traps they like to nudge the bar, I can always find a place to hold it and I'm not any 300 pounds or anything like that. When I go low bar which is difficult for me, it puts a bit more strain on the shoulders but I would never use a pad in such a situation because my arms are litterally holding it up. This causes a bit of shoulder strain, and couple that with back sweat since we are doing multiple sets and not a big single with a huge squat suit on, and you can rest assured a pad would not be my prefered way to go.

Of course for the people out there that dont sweat when they workout, maybe a pad works great. The only thing that leaves marks on my body that I can recall are when I do calves where the weight is on my shoulders. When the arm is down there is not a lot of meat on the top of the bone there, and it leaves marks. I dont see a lot of other marks on my backside from squatting

 

[jahnetour]

with trap development there should be a nice little groove where you can put the bar nice and comfortably