Starting carb cycling

[Spency234]

Yes I have read the articles. I am also trying to cut right now.

First I will go through the days.

Sunday - No Carb

Monday - High Carb (Also my chest/tricep workout day)

Tuesday - No Carb

Wednesday - Low Carb (Back and bicep)

Thursday - No Carb

Friday - High Carb (Legs)

Saturday - Low Carb

I will also probably do one day of cardio on a no carb day, whatever day I feel like it.

Ok, now for what I will be eating:

NO CARB

Meal 1 - Protein Shake and 5g of fish oil.

Meal 2 - Can of tuna and 1C of salad.

Meal 3 - Eggs (half whites half whole), 1 C of salad and 5g of fish oil.

Meal 4 - Chicken breast or Salmon

(this is where I will be working out)

Meal 5 - Protein shake, 5g of fish oil and 1C of green beans.

Meal 6 - 1.5C of 1% cottage cheese and 1.5 tablespoons of PB.

LOW CARB

Meal 1 - Protein Shake, 1C of oats, and 5g of fish oil

Meal 2 - Can of tuna and 1C of salad.

Meal 3 - Eggs (half whites half whole), 1 C of salad, 1C of fibre one cereal, and 5g of fish oil.

Meal 4 - Chicken breast or Salmon

(this is where I will be working out)

Meal 5 - 2 scoops of protein powder, 1C of oats, and 1C green beans

Meal 6 - 1.5C of 1% cottage cheese and 1.5 tablespoons of PB.

HIGH CARB

Meal 1 - 2 scoops of protein powder, OATS, and 5g of fish oil.

Meal 2 - Can of tuna and 1C of salad.

Meal 3 - Eggs (half whites half whole), 1 C of salad, FIBRE ONE CEREAL, and 5g of fish oil.

Meal 4 -Chicken breast or Salmon and BROWN RICE

(this is where I will be working out)

Meal 5 - 2 scoops of protein powder, OATS, 5g of fish oil, and 1C of green beans.

Meal 6 - 1.5C of 1% cottage cheese and 1.5 tablespoons of PB.




Now, I would like you to critique everything I have put together here but I also have a few more questions.

1. What do you mean by "natural" peanut butter?? Will plain ol Skippy Extra Crunchy do??

2. How much of an effect will one night of drinking have on this diet?? I usually only go out Saturdays, but don't want to ruin all my hard work on that one night??

 

[Monolith]

Ok... you say youve read the article, yet youve staggered your days as No/High/No/Low/No/High/Low??

No offense, but TP likely knows more about diet than you do. Follow his advice, and follow the plan as stated. If it needs to be tweaked down the road, then it can be tweaked. You dont want to start haphazardly screwing with things from the get-go.

Natural peanut butter is just that - natural. Not the skippy's, jiff, or anything like that. Ideally you want to get fresh ground peanuts - some stores will have a peanut grinder you can use. If not that, most major grocery stores carry jars of natural peanut butter (an easy way to tell is if its got freestanding oil at the top of the jar). You want a peanut butter with no added sugar (which is what jiff, skippy, etc has).

As for the drinking... im not sure how much of an impact it'll have on this diet, since i dont drink much. Hopefully someone else can comment.

 

[aztecwolf]

i don't know that much about cycling carbs but i think you need more on your high carb days
natural pb ingredients, peanuts and salt and that is it

 

[jaim91]

Shouldn't the cycling be more like no/low/high/no/low/high?

 

[Spency234]

Originally posted by Monolith
Ok... you say youve read the article, yet youve staggered your days as No/High/No/Low/No/High/Low??

No offense, but TP likely knows more about diet than you do. Follow his advice, and follow the plan as stated. If it needs to be tweaked down the road, then it can be tweaked. You dont want to start haphazardly screwing with things from the get-go.

Natural peanut butter is just that - natural. Not the skippy's, jiff, or anything like that. Ideally you want to get fresh ground peanuts - some stores will have a peanut grinder you can use. If not that, most major grocery stores carry jars of natural peanut butter (an easy way to tell is if its got freestanding oil at the top of the jar). You want a peanut butter with no added sugar (which is what jiff, skippy, etc has).

As for the drinking... im not sure how much of an impact it'll have on this diet, since i dont drink much. Hopefully someone else can comment.

I never said I knew more about the diet he CREATED. By saying I read the articles I meant his articles, so where in the world would you get the idea that I thought I knew more about that diet.

Anyway, in his second article, found here he says you can get away with a schedule like I'm putting together. Correct me if I'm wrong of course.

i don't know that much about cycling carbs but i think you need more on your high carb days
natural pb ingredients, peanuts and salt and that is it

When I say BROWN RICE, and OATS on my high carb day I mean I'm going to eat until I'm satisfied, no measuring.


I did leave some things out though, like on my carb meals I will be eating an apple first, and for my egg meals I will be eating 6, 3 whole and 3 whites.

Can someone who knows the diet comment please??

 

[tucker01]

Originally posted by Spency234
Yes I have read the articles. I am also trying to cut right now.

First I will go through the days.

Sunday - No Carb

Monday - High Carb (Also my chest/tricep workout day)

Tuesday - No Carb

Wednesday - Low Carb (Back and bicep)

Thursday - No Carb

Friday - High Carb (Legs)

Saturday - Low Carb

I will also probably do one day of cardio on a no carb day, whatever day I feel like it.

Ok, now for what I will be eating:

NO CARB

Meal 1 - Protein Shake and 5g of fish oil.

Meal 2 - Can of tuna and 1C of salad. is this enough P

Meal 3 - Eggs (half whites half whole), 1 C of salad and 5g of fish oil.

Meal 4 - Chicken breast or Salmon add veggies

(this is where I will be working out)

Meal 5 - Protein shake, 5g of fish oil and 1C of green beans. dropp the fish oil

Meal 6 - 1.5C of 1% cottage cheese and 1.5 tablespoons of PB.

LOW CARB

Meal 1 - Protein Shake, 1C of oats, and 5g of fish oil fruit

Meal 2 - Can of tuna and 1C of salad.

Meal 3 - Eggs (half whites half whole), 1 C of salad, 1C of fibre one cereal, and 5g of fish oil. Fruit

Meal 4 - Chicken breast or Salmon Veggies and make this a carb meal

(this is where I will be working out)

Meal 5 - 2 scoops of protein powder, 1C of oats, and 1C green beans Fruit

Meal 6 - 1.5C of 1% cottage cheese and 1.5 tablespoons of PB.

HIGH CARB

Meal 1 - 2 scoops of protein powder, OATS, and 5g of fish oil. Fruit

Meal 2 - Can of tuna and 1C of salad.

Meal 3 - Eggs (half whites half whole), 1 C of salad, FIBRE ONE CEREAL, and 5g of fish oil. fruit, not enough carbs

Meal 4 -Chicken breast or Salmon and BROWN RICE fruit

(this is where I will be working out)

Meal 5 - 2 scoops of protein powder, OATS, 5g of fish oil, and 1C of green beans. Fruit

Meal 6 - 1.5C of 1% cottage cheese and 1.5 tablespoons of PB.




Now, I would like you to critique everything I have put together here but I also have a few more questions.

1. What do you mean by "natural" peanut butter?? Will plain ol Skippy Extra Crunchy do??

2. How much of an effect will one night of drinking have on this diet?? I usually only go out Saturdays, but don't want to ruin all my hard work on that one night??

What are your Stats? Weight, Body type??

Can you break down the P,C,F content?? ie www.fitday.com

 

[Twin Peak]

Spence, you have done a fairly good job setting this up.

As Mono mentioned, your weekly plan isn't "ideal" that said, it is not terrible either, and if fits your schedule much better, that is paramount; the best diet in the world will not work, if you can't stick with it.

But with only two High Carb days per week, the rule of thumb is You-Better-Eat-A-Buttload.???

Also, your daily breakdowns look decent. You'd be better off making sure you get your fruit in there, but in general, I think this is well put together.

As to drinking, yes it will hinder any diet.

(1) You are consuming useless calories. And at 100-300 a drink, can really add up.

(2) Alchohol will slow your metabolism down for up to 48 hours. When you drink, drink lots of water with, after, and the day after, your drinking.

So, what I usually recommend is that is this is a real "cut" then drinking once per month is the most you should do.

If this is more of a lifestyle-I-want-to-drop-a-few-pounds-by-the-summer diet. Then once every two weeks should be fine.

 

[Spency234]

Well last time I checked (and I don't think too much has changed) I was 6'1", 210 pounds, and a little over 20% bodyfat. As for bodytype, I am mostly mesomorph.

I'm working on getting my diet put into that Fitday database, thanks for the response.

 

[Fit Freak]

I don't think it needs to be this complicated....you may find this difficult to adhere to.

Why not try something like start out low...say 100 grams...then decrease it by 25 grams a day the next 2 or 3 days...then have a moderate to high carb day...maybe like 300 grams or something...then repeat?

Just my 2 cents.

You can also just run....LOW / LOW / ZERO / HIGH / ZERO / REPEAT

 

[Spency234]

Originally posted by Twin Peak
Spence, you have done a fairly good job setting this up.

As Mono mentioned, your weekly plan isn't "ideal" that said, it is not terrible either, and if fits your schedule much better, that is paramount; the best diet in the world will not work, if you can't stick with it.

But with only two High Carb days per week, the rule of thumb is You-Better-Eat-A-Buttload.???

Also, your daily breakdowns look decent. You'd be better off making sure you get your fruit in there, but in general, I think this is well put together.

As to drinking, yes it will hinder any diet.

(1) You are consuming useless calories. And at 100-300 a drink, can really add up.

(2) Alchohol will slow your metabolism down for up to 48 hours. When you drink, drink lots of water with, after, and the day after, your drinking.

So, what I usually recommend is that is this is a real "cut" then drinking once per month is the most you should do.

If this is more of a lifestyle-I-want-to-drop-a-few-pounds-by-the-summer diet. Then once every two weeks should be fine.

Alright, I really am looking to lose alot of bodyfat so I probably should just go no/low/high. Also with the alcohol I think I should probably get my priorities straight, and as of right now I think I would rather have my abs showing then make an ass out of myself once a week (although it is fun.)

 

[nikegurl]

Originally posted by Spency234
Alright, I really am looking to lose alot of bodyfat so I probably should just go no/low/high. Also with the alcohol I think I should probably get my priorities straight, and as of right now I think I would rather have my abs showing then make an ass out of myself once a week (although it is fun.)

 

[Spency234]

Alright, found myself some natural PB... DAMN the stuff is sticky.

I also went in to buy some fish oil and all they had was capsules. How does this sound to you guys?

Flax Seed Oil..... 400mg
Borage Oil.......... 400mg
Fish Oil................ 400mg
Natural Vitamin E.. 10 I.U.

It recommends 3 a day... will that be enough??

 

[Spency234]

Sorry I don't usually like to "bump" my topics... I figure if everyone wants it to die let it die.

But I want to know if these capsules are worth keeping??

 

[Spency234]

Welll I'm just going to continue using this thread for my questions.

What do you guys think about carrots?? I buy salad in a bag and it comes with lettuce oinions and grated carrots in it. Will this affect my carb intake on no-carb days??

 

[atherjen]

hmm personally I would go with just plain fish oil caps. you may want to consider purschasing those sort after you are through with those ones.
as for how many to take- Jodi will be able to say for certain.

as for the carrots on no carb days-yes you would want to steer clear of those- they are a higher sugar vegetable- on carb days they are fine IMO.

 

[Premo55]

Personally I take between 20-25 fish oil caps a day. I remember TP's recommendation was 20, but he's revised that depending on your body type. Since I just rely on fish oil and the saturated fats in my meats for fat sources, I use that as my fat source exclusively.

Peace.

 

[Twin Peak]

Fish oil is where its at.

5-15 grams a day depending on your bodytype (endos the most, ectos the least).

You can (and should) halve that number if you are supplementing with SesaThin??? -- which you should be.

 

[Twin Peak]

Originally posted by atherjen
hmm personally I would go with just plain fish oil caps. you may want to consider purschasing those sort after you are through with those ones.
as for how many to take- Jodi will be able to say for certain.

as for the carrots on no carb days-yes you would want to steer clear of those- they are a higher sugar vegetable- on carb days they are fine IMO.

Solid post Jen.

When is your comp, anyway?