Starting first cyle...need some advice!

[Built]

I don't know how they're made in the US, but in Canada, McDonald's hamburgers are made from 100% pure beef, seasoned with salt and pepper.

White flour isn't Teh Devil - post workout, refined carbohydrates are just fine.

Sauces made with high fructose corn syrup - well, let's examine the sugar profile of high fructose corn syrup: fructose and glucose. This is virtually identical to ordinary table sugar, or the sugar profile of most of the fruits we eat for example. A little bit in your teriyaki sauce isn't gonna make you any fatter than a chunk of apple is going to make you fat.

Now I'm not suggesting you eat an "all junk food, all the time" diet. This stuff is high in calories, flat out. The fries, which used to be fried in natural animal shortening - are now fried in transfats, sadly. This isn't good under any circumstances, for anyone.

But if you're a skinny 18-year-old guy on a bulk, you feed yourself nourishing food, plenty of fruits and veggies, natural fats, plenty of protein etc there are far worse things you can put in your body than the occasional McDonald's hamburger!

 

[data210]

None of the fast food is the devil, but if he really wants to get good gains and be healthy why would he waste his money on fast food? Why not do it right the first time with a clean bulk so he has to cut less fat, and won't be at risk for health issues from processed foods?

White bread isn't the worst thing ever invented, but why would you eat that when there's more healthy 15 grain you can consume? Why eat a patty of cow armpits and assholes when you can go get some steak tips or chicken from a butcher?

To each their own though. In my opinion, if I'm dedicated myself while I'm in the gym, I also dedicate myself out of the gym. I'm not saying NEVER eat fast food if you like it, just don't go on a "mcdonalds diet"

 

[Built]

None of the fast food is the devil, but if he really wants to get good gains and be healthy why would he waste his money on fast food? Why not do it right the first time with a clean bulk so he has to cut less fat, and won't be at risk for health issues from processed foods?

You want to explain to me how the individual food choices impact upon how much fat is gained during a bulk? 'Cause I always thought it was the calories.

White bread isn't the worst thing ever invented, but why would you eat that when there's more healthy 15 grain you can consume?

Because sometimes you actually want a fast carb. Hell, I don't even eat grain - to me, there's no such thing as a healthy 15 grain bread.

Why eat a patty of cow armpits and assholes when you can go get some steak tips or chicken from a butcher?

You're assuming the protein in the rest of the cow isn't good quality protein, is that it? I grew up eating all sorts of off-cuts of meat: thymus gland, brains, liver, kidney, gizzard, lung, stomach, intestine... my mom's a good cook and she grew up on a farm - she always made stuff taste good. There's lots of nourishment in some of these off-cuts. Besides, we're talking about 100% ground beef here.

To each their own though. In my opinion, if I'm dedicated myself while I'm in the gym, I also dedicate myself out of the gym. I'm not saying NEVER eat fast food if you like it, just don't go on a "mcdonalds diet"

I don't think anyone here was suggesting the OP eat nothing but McDonald's food. But to a well-nourished hard-gainer on a bulk, a shake and a greasy cheeseburger may be the best dietary supplement out there.

 

[data210]

No, I'm saying that fast food restaurants use poor quality meat, unhealthy oils for frying, sauces with processed sugars and preservatives, and highly processed breads with many of the nutrients stripped out. Often your consuming some fecal matter along with the meat, because they don't take much care when they slaughter and package.

If he just HAS TO GAIN WEIGHT, with no worry of health issues, or fueling himself with proper nutrients, go ahead and eat Mcdonalds. I don't know anyone that actually feels good after they eat that type of food. I'm not trying to change your mind, but in my opinion, studies, and education, fast food should not be consumed when there are so many other nutrient dense foods you can eat instead.

 

[Built]

I guarantee you, unless you're slaughtering your own meat, grinding your own peanut butter and making all your own food from scratch, you're getting fecal matter, mouse droppings, and rat hairs in your food.

Mmmm... rat hairs...

 

[biggfly]

Sometimes I feel great after a double cheeseburger...come on. Meats from slaughter houses can go all different directions, the ground beef may go to McD's, but the ribeyes and Prime rib may go to Outback or Applebee's...you saying you don't eat meat at these places either??!

 

[data210]

I know anything can find its way into our food, I used to work in a restaurant. I'm saying that I keep processed foods out of my diet the best I can. And one of the categories I keep out is fast food. I'm simply stating that in MY OPINION fast food is garbage, and I choose not to put those things into my body. I don't think I'm out of line by saying a home grilled steak, baked sweet potato, and steamed broccoli is healthier than a bigmac, fries, and a coke. If you do, thats your opinion. Whatever works.

 

[Hench]

Think about how your body is going to respond to the food. Do you think that the calories from a big mac with fries will give you the same nutritional benefits of 8 ounces of steak, sweet potato, and steamed broccoli? Your body will not function at its peak performance with poor diet, even though your eating an amount of calories to trigger weight gain.

I mean "bad calories" by highly processed foods. The white hamburger bun has had many of the nutrients stripped out of it. The beef patty is horrible quality meat, and the sauces are filled with preservatives and high fructose corn syrup. Thats just skimming the surface.

I agree, but that wasnt the point I was making.

You can eat food like McD's as long as the rest of your diet is on point, and you still hit your macros.

 

[data210]

I understand, and agree. If someone is solely concerned with weight gain, Mcd's would work as a calorie supplement. I just figured if he was going to spend the money on gear, why not spend it on nutritious wholesome foods that are healthier?