Starting winny/clen cycle w conflicting weekend lifestyle

[funnyman]

What's up fellas!? New to these boards, but Im about to start winny but I have some concerns.

My stats

31 yr old
5'10
185-195 on cut
200-215 on bulk
My comp is somewhere in the middle

I have a very good understanding of nutrition and supplementation and have been training for 10 years.

Now I am a rare breed with a very conflicting lifestyle on the weekends. During the week I eat clean, supplement the basics, and do not partake in alcohol ect.

My weekend lifestyle is quite different. I go out every saturday night and binge drink and my cheat day is on sundays. I understand this is a big no no no matter who you are and ESP if you're trying to take your training seriously. I'm well aware of this conflict of interest but I am a big proponent of work hard to play hard. It's literally my weekly release and I would not have my sanity without this therapeutic release "session" lol. Throughout history people needed to unwind and I'd rather not be judged on this. My friends don't share the same goals as me and the best advice would probably be get new friends, but thats not happening at this time.

I have taken clen in the past and have had excellent results with it while maintaining the same weekend lifestyle. This was in the summer with a shore house, where we binge drank the whole weekend. I didn't take it on weekends though, only during week!

My question is I know taking 2 orals puts stress on your liver in the first place. Should i Run them separate? I already bought both. And is it ok to always take the weekends off to be safe when running these esp win!?

Then i need to know about PCT
Should I be taking a test booster and milk thistle after or during?

 

[Tre]

Well clen isn't methylated dude.

Winny is.

Winny without test is pointless your Weiner won't work at all during cycle




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[stillatit]

not to mention Winny will suck you dry and alcohol dehydrates you too . and throw in binge weekends?

 

[Tre]

I think you need to stay natty and toss the idea of that stack.

You need to research these things for yourself first because binge drinking and winny (methyls) don't mix..




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[Tre]

Skipping doses on weekends isn't going to help, you can't just skip 2 days all the time and expect the winny to shred you up.




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[Bigjim5]

Sorry dude but you sound like a dumbass. Haven't you done any research? Why do you want to run winstrol and nit just some test? I'm assuming you've never used any AAS? Just run some test and cut back on drinking a bit.
Or stay away from any AAS and work your ass off and party all you want and except all that goes along with it.
You would not likely benefit much more from what you want to do then training hard and eating right would do for you anyway. Winstrol is not a miracle drug.

 

[funnyman]

Yeah these are my concerns. Esp the sex drive. I understand it could be a dangerous combo and was trying to figure out how to minimize damage. I understand it is counter productive and I'm taking on risk. Have been told you could run this without test and i don't do needles. Thought maybe it would help with my training even if i took weekends off. Ive been known to have slightly high estriol levels, and since win is anti estrogenic, figured this could help in that area. Then add a test booster for free test support? Im here for advice to how to make this work. Have users I know personally saying ill be fine. You can call me a dumbass all you'd like, but a dumbass wouldn't ask the questions and do the research I'm doing. Im here to learn and listen to similar experiences

 

[johnsonl3872]

Yeah these are my concerns. Esp the sex drive. I understand it could be a dangerous combo and was trying to figure out how to minimize damage. I understand it is counter productive and I'm taking on risk. Have been told you could run this without test and i don't do needles. Thought maybe it would help with my training even if i took weekends off. Ive been known to have slightly high estriol levels, and since win is anti estrogenic, figured this could help in that area. Then add a test booster for free test support? Im here for advice to how to make this work. Have users I know personally saying ill be fine. You can call me a dumbass all you'd like, but a dumbass wouldn't ask the questions and do the research I'm doing. Im here to learn and listen to similar experiences

I think you need to get over the needle fear and get some test. If you are going to party be sure to get enough water afterwards. Test and clen should work well. Winny has too many crappy sides like joint pain and ED issues. Cycle clen 2 weeks on 2 weeks off.....


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[funnyman]

Yeah my libido has drastically decreased recently without running anything. Don't know if its just I'm at that age or what. But I like that Im getting penis advice from a johnson! lol
The needle fear is real though! Always felt like thats a slippery slope too. If i get over my needle fear, I might start liking it. Did I mention i like to party? lmao

 

[johnsonl3872]

Yeah my libido has drastically decreased recently without running anything. Don't know if its just I'm at that age or what. But I like that Im getting penis advice from a johnson! lol
The needle fear is real though! Always felt like thats a slippery slope too. If i get over my needle fear, I might start liking it. Did I mention i like to party? lmao

Just inject on drinking days. Use your quads or delts it really doesn't hurt...just make sure to use alcohol wipes and new needles....


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[funnyman]

I thought about running test, but i think if i were to do that, I d go to an endo and do it under doctor supervision. Could work. Esp w the high estriol results in the past.

 

[funnyman]

And again I only drink once a week

 

[bnmsupar]

I think you should try to drop that lifestyle, even if its hard just try to drink less and less on weekends.

PS: Winny will suck you so dry, along with the dehydration from liquor

 

[funnyman]

What about anavar? Since that is the least toxic of the orals. Can anyone comment on that?

 

[johnsonl3872]

Anavar is great if you are already in good shape....less than 15% BF...otherwise it is just an expensive waste...


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[Tre]

No cycle 4 you.

If you have can't pin, AAS aren't for you.




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[bocn]

Suck it up buttercup and inject the fkin sauce already... pick a butt cheek and jab, dont over think it.. theres also utube vidz to give u step by step instructions

 

[sassy69]

Because AAS alters the basic proportions of your sex hormones, it isn't like popping an aspirin. The body operates on keeping balance in all things - both in daily amounts as well as over time - and doing AAS sporadically or in response to short-term schedules - like weekend binges, not only does it beat the fuck out of your body and totally jack up your sex function, you really need to commit to it or don't. The people who do it half way usually get half-way results and a lot of extra stress on their systems that maybe aren't immediately apparent, but have the potential to really cause problems after a while. Esp when guys are younger, they feel invincible and live large - but it takes its toll later if you don't know what you are doing or try to rig up some sort of protocol that doesn't take into account the true way things work. You got great advice in this thread for a beginner - so before you make dumb mistakes - spend the time researching - particularly the "beginner cycle" threads & stickies and consider your priorities if or when you choose to go to the dark side. It affects too many fundamental things to not give the whole decision enough thought to do it right and have respect for your body while you do it. Approaching it this way will also contribute to your body's ability to keep up training and staying healthy over time instead of blowing it all out while you are young and paying the price when you aren't so young.

And there are some basic truths about cycling - one of them is , yes needles are mostly involved. The other is you need to look at the cycles that will work with your body chemistry - specifically paying attention to the compounds you are using such that they won't leave you "test -less" -- I think guys don't pay so much attention to what your hormone levels affect - low test can be like hitting andropause a lot earlier than you need to, it can affect your moods, for some it can aggravate anxiety, depression, maybe even paranoia. And things like BP, etc. also take a hit and are not usually what is considered when diving in. The stuff takes a toll on your body and you have to respect it for what it can & can't do, what it does that you don't want as well as what it does that you do want. Ain't nuttin' for free. It's not rocket science, but it affects enough fundamental things in your body that it should be given appropriate consideration.