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EAT SOME FUCKING FOOD you don't need to get on ANYTHING!



And I'll place a bet on your real bf being more like 10 - 13% at the lowest.
 
Hey man posting that pic really isn't going to matter. Your age is the reason these guys are rousting you. You can cause serious damage to your self if you proceed on you current course of action. If I was you I would just hang out on here for the next 4-5 years and read peoples posts about first cycles by then you will not have to even ask what to run. Maybe start a journal and get down what your eating and workouts. Hell you could learn a lot on here to help out your career.

Excellent advice. You are way to young and to small to be cycling!
 
whats your diet like? at your age proper nutrition and rest is your best bet if you havnt fucked your system up. creatine would probably do wonders also.
 
Still waiting on those pictures Bro.
 
My diets good, Consists of 4 pouched eggs on wholegrain bread every morning, then either chicken breast + sweet potato, or brown rice on minced meat, then what ever for dinner, I have 3 low carb protein shakes a day, one in the morning, one before bed and one after a workout
 
EAT SOME FUCKING FOOD you don't need to get on ANYTHING!



And I'll place a bet on your real bf being more like 10 - 13% at the lowest.


I've had pinch test done on me, and it was 7.0% and I did them crappy hand held things that came up around 7-8
 
5 weeks of EQ!
 
It was a joke bub. EQ takes me around 10 weeks to feel. Just eat more food and train better. Not what you want to hear but it's the truth.
 
Hahah dude you are 10% + ...

stop kidding yourself.

This is the problem with personal trainers; you guys think you know everything. Humble yourself and learn. Start off by learning how to eat, and learn that your bf is not what you think and you shouldn't walk around touting that if you can't back it up.

What everyone is telling you is for your own good. Unless you plan on trying to be Mr. O, personally it doesn't sound very fun to be 25 and not be able to get your dick hard without taking gear. This is serious business dude. Believe me, and everyone else will back me up on this too, if you put in the work naturally and get up to around 200lbs and then take gear (correctly, not like you are talking about) you will create a physique you never thought you could. If you take gear now you're going to miss out on a lot of training fundamentals because at this point you will be relying on the gear. You'll end up being 180lbs on cycle and when you come off you'll be right back where you started wondering "how does everybody body else get big, what are they taking?".

And if you don't want to be big, and just want to be 165lbs or whatever you said your goal was; you have it made dude... save yourself the trouble, at the end of the day taking gear is a pain in the ass! but we all put up with it because our goals are something that can't be achieved naturally. Seriously realize that the decisions you make about this could affect you THE REST OF YOUR LIFE. wait 5 years; bust your ass, and judging by what you said you wanted to gain, you probably won't ever need gear.
 
Just to sum it up on why everybody here thinks you're a big idiot.

-17 years old and beginning AAS usage can lead permanent damage to HPTA function
-You didn't do proper research on how to use AAS
-You don't have a trustworthy source of AAS cause the one you have is giving you retarded advice
-Test C, Test E, Test 400, Test Sust, Deca, Tren E and Tren Hex are all long esters that require a minimum of 4 weeks to begin working, meaning 5 week cycles is a complete waste of time
-You are very very weak and small currently at only 165lbs @ 5'8.5". You haven't reached your genetic potential and are far from even close to what you could get to naturally
-You have no idea with PCT is probably, meaning you will lose a lot of the gains you do make, if not all of them upon cessation of use

I'd work up to at least 200+ lbs before you even begin to think about AAS use. It's pretty obvious that your personal training education didn't do shit for you cause you don't know the first thing about training/diet/drug usage.
 
tell you what ive been lifting for over 25 yrs and when i was your age i didnt no shit about diet, i will tell you, what you eat is the most important thing you can do for yourself. 80% diet, taking steroids is only part of it. if you want mass increase your calorie intake and make sure it clean food with lots of protein. just give this the same 5 weeks you gave your short cycle and i bet you see better results. p.s. theres a lot of guys on here that will help you even if your natural.
 
tell you what ive been lifting for over 25 yrs and when i was your age i didnt no shit about diet, i will tell you, what you eat is the most important thing you can do for yourself. 80% diet, taking steroids is only part of it. if you want mass increase your calorie intake and make sure it clean food with lots of protein. just give this the same 5 weeks you gave your short cycle and i bet you see better results. p.s. theres a lot of guys on here that will help you even if your natural.

Good Advice right here, and like he said some of us would be willing to help if you humble yourself a bit.
 
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