It seems to be a definate british or european thing- we do like our drink. I go out every other weekend and tend to get hammered yet I do not not use steroids. I just assume like many have mentioned already that if your gonna use steroids its too make gains when your body can no longer naturally, so it seems like a super effort on your bodies behalf as well as all the organisation and practical preparation etc to get bigger so seems stupid to ruin or hold back full potential gains through boozing all the time. I understand when running orals, the added stress of alot of alcohol on the liver wont do you any favours and even on injectibles, alcohol is a catabolic substance, it dehydrates you, interferes with protein synthesis and makes you ache like fuck if trained that day or day before!! This I understand completely, but the biggest problem is us brits have that you yanks tend not to have a problem with, is we find it hard to go a full length of a cycle (10-12 or whatever number of weeks) without getting bolloxt every now and then. Although I don not want to drink at all on cycle, I struggle to believe when I go on cycle, that i'll last 10-16 weeks without going out and getting pist just once. Seems its all down to discipline and determination and what you really want most, muscle gains or regular hangovers.