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Steroids why take them?

Fair enough :) But I didnt use the term "roid rage" I simply just said I had bad experiences with aggression. Getting the shit beaten out of me by a steroid user is not a nice thing.

stop dating assholes..


girls never seem to learn.. give them a hammer and they will beat themselves over the head with it
 
All gear users are going to heaven. Jesus only wants the most jerked and tan people to be in his army.
 
^^^^he knows
 
my point is a guy who is natural is twice the man of steroids.one you cant eat enough so you cheat are you training for mr olymp?no your a normal guy who has to cheat to look big full of water get off your roids and you will be possibly still be good but hey roid users arnt the real deal so my view is you take roids to look big in your local gym and anyone can smell a roid user from a mile away.big natural and bulky or lean is the real deal not some fake bitch who tells everyone he dosent take them, iam not trying to piss people off or get people off roids im just stateing facts.who is better big natural guy or steroid freak who cant get there without drugs.i have more respect and look up to the guy who aint on roids.example kids idol like The rock if he took roids would it be good?no alot of kids would think its okay to talk them and it causes deaths, serious side effects and even ilness.i think a lifter who is off roids and dose it naturally is alot fitter alot stronger. thanks :) for replys enjoyed reading em idc if you flame.

I dunno bro, I was told I was a steroid user when I was all natural. Now that I am a steroid user I am still told I am a steroid user...

Personally its all about your goals and what you are willing to do to get there. I am the strongest guy in my gym in my weight class in bench, curls, shoulders and triceps. I held this title when i was natural and I hold it now as a juicer... Nothing has really changed. I am still better then everyone else in those categories and I am training to be better in legs and deadlift...

Not really sure your gripe against steroids... hell you can make similar arguments about the zillion supplements on the market and how those are "cheating" as well.

In any case, hope you figure it out. If natural is for you then go for it.
 
steroids are not magic pills. I was expecting to get huge on my first 8 week cycle. Not true. The strength was there. Didn't Schwarzenegger take 3-4 years to get to where he is prior to his first Mr. Olympia win? It's like would you rather have just milk or milk with protein powder. The wise choice would be milk with protein powder.

Nagged for not even lifting and being a troll
 
I completely understand where this kid is coming from. When I was 14 i saw people in the gym that were 150, 160 lbs and fairly lean and I was like wow that guy is such an ass, he takes steroids I hate him, he would be smaller than me if he didn't take them. I got to 210 naturally, busted my ass and I'm very proud of it. I decided after that I wanted to bust my ass more. I wanted to work harder, and become bigger. Naturally, there is only so hard you can work, only so much you can eat, before there is no more positive effect to your body. In essence, as a natural, you can not work truly hard. Your body just can't handle it. It especially can't handle it if you had genetics like mine. People take steroids because they are MORE MOTIVATED, and want to work HARDER, but natural limits decide the point at which you are OVERTRAINING is pretty low. I was sick of bullshit 45 minute workouts, which were often overtraining on their own. I thought, how ridiculous for a person with the motivation to lift 3 hours a day, to do only 45 minutes because that's the most his body can recover from. So I took steroids, so I could WORK MORE, and put in more effort. It doesn't make anything easier. It enables more motivated people to put more into lifting without reaching the point of diminishing returns after a pathetic 45 minute sweat-free workout. And there's nothing cheaty or unfair about it. First time I ever benched all I could do was 95 pounds. Another friend of mine hit 175 his first time. That's unfair. HE did nothing for that. Just handed to him. At least when you juice, you have to learn SOOOO much shit in order to do it right and to actually gain from it. It's more work for more gains.

God damn this is so true.

The only reason why I am still natural is because I scared myself with all the side effects and wasn't sure I could use steroids properly.

Yet I see other people use them like this skinny ass kid who hasnt even been lifting 2 years but now looks alot bigger and pretty damn good.

Time to nut up or shut up and go the next level I think, fuck being that guy whos been lifting for 15 years and still not getting where he wants to be. I'm gonna try and contact some guy I know and get the specifics and tear some ass.
 
stop dating assholes..


girls never seem to learn.. give them a hammer and they will beat themselves over the head with it

Damn this is so true. To this DAY I do not understand why women do this shit!

I have friends who are dating assholes and sometimes I want to ask them, "Do you like to be treated like crap?"
 
Damn this is so true. To this DAY I do not understand why women do this shit!

I have friends who are dating assholes and sometimes I want to ask them, "Do you like to be treated like crap?"

not even joking bro..


then they come to me and are like "Why are all guys assholes?"

the assholes they date arent even strong or muscular at all.. they definitely arent the "bad boys".. they are just mean...immature..assholes


girls like melodie would rather blame the fact that they allow themselves to be treated poorly.. on steroids.. they just dont want to recognize their hopeless stupidity
 
i dont know alot about steroids but no need to flame me for dissing them.name some steroids then or supplements what you can take to add serious size.i dont think i will go down the road of roids cause i dont respect em okay they they help you get bigger.so what roids do you guys take and what products?

first thing you need to do is work on your fucked up grammar and english... you can even put a sentence together! And honestly, there is no need for you to come on the board and so call "diss" steroids if you kno nothing about them...
 
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not even joking bro..


then they come to me and are like "Why are all guys assholes?"

the assholes they date arent even strong or muscular at all.. they definitely arent the "bad boys".. they are just mean...immature..assholes


girls like melodie would rather blame the fact that they allow themselves to be treated poorly.. on steroids.. they just dont want to recognize their hopeless stupidity

This^^^^

That's why I like going after older women :banana:

99.9% of the time, they are past the "I want a bad boy" stage and on to the "I want to be manhandled by MAN!" stage :anal:
 
Here to ask you guys about steroids and why people take them or in other words my opinion is roid users kinda drag the sport down.and there are supplements out there what have been banned well it all comes down to one thing why cheat?and why take short cuts?you may be big but your a weak man o look i weigh 310pounds of water but i bench like 80kg cause i cheat.yeah good progress.just want to know your guys opinion's on this subject and feel free to flame bitch or what ever just wanna get some view's, why cant you get big without them?


you are right steroids ruined the sport of bodybuilding. bigbenj said you get big naturally but you get bigger with steroids and here is the answer: steroid users are mostly (i say mostly) mentally ill they often suffer from an inferiority complex always wanting to get bigger at any cost and health risk.
The fact is that you cannot cheat nature, and as you said most of the size is water and fake muscle and strenght that is short lived.
and if a guy is training to please women then he is also mentally ill. And by the way women do not like apes on steroids and your dick does not get harder when you are on steroids,,,,,all that is absolute crap..i can even assure you that from all the people i have seen pound per pound natural people were stronger than steroid users..i have never seen a guy on steroids in my weight class stronger than i am..even now at my age.
Even if steroids are going to make me stronger and bigger i really don't give a shit ..i find pleasure and achievement in training and being healthy ...for me steroids is cheating and beats my purpose of staying healthy.
 
I actually agree to an extent with the above here. Steroids have kind of killed bodybuilding, at least the massive amounts they take now. The truth is they have been taking steroids since the 70's at least.


Steroids however saved baseball. If it wasn't for Mark McGuire and Sammy Sosa MLB could easy be defunct by now.

Football is king, at least in America and all those guys are juiced out of their minds. Unless you think a guy can be 6-4 350 lbs and bench press a Bentley naturally.
 
Somebody lied to you when they said they prefer little natty guys over gorillas. :sorry:
 
So, if i was to do 5 gram of test per week, plus 1 gram of tren per week will i get big? Probably no, i don’t have the genetics, i will gain some sized but i wont be no pro, you only have to look at Dave Palumbo to see what i mean……….
 
You know folks can argue their point on taking or not taking steroid as it is or isn't a way of cheating. However it lies to the reality that whatever you believe to be cheating may not be perceived as such from another person's point of view. However to be a good citizen, friend, wife, husband etc...and take steroids is no different IMO to the person who takes a multivitamin. Yes I know that a multivitamin are too different sides of the hemisphere in this conversation but my point is why do you take that multivitamin/steroid? From whatever fence you are you looking from some consider steroids to be a form of all over health through responsible cycling will and same is the person who takes a multivitamin for some reason. Why are steroids consider extreme in comparison to OLD supplements? Because news, media, government and so on have label the use of steroids “performance enhancing” drug illegal and a cheater. Well what if you where to take way above the recommended dose of a multivitamin around 8-10 everyday for 10-on up? Don’t you think there eventually going to be some wazoo sides through “over use of an OTC” product and folks will blame as they have for and till the end of times the reason why they died is because abuse of the product and because they were so consumed where their appearance blah, blah, blah would eventually lead up to big brother (FDA) control our FREEDOM OF CHOICE by banning the compound(s) that “maybe the cause” of the individuals death when the reality that he or she is freaking idioooottt and irresponsible. Why would docs continue to WRITE scripts for AAS if they felt it was a true harm to the body? Money first response second is because it has been PROVEN time and time and time and time and did I say time that if administered properly and RESPONSIBLLY AAS will improve over health and over and assist with over load of health issue one may have. Just my opinion though. I just work here part time and don’t use AAS but use battery acid and saw dust and haven’t had issues yet, but I just started yesterday. I should be good I think, does the WORLD, politicians and the media have input on what is good, bad, ugly or possibly cheating here? Just want to stay legit as I just started about an hour ago. Lastly can I use the same pin???? LOL.
 
you are right steroids ruined the sport of bodybuilding. bigbenj said you get big naturally but you get bigger with steroids and here is the answer: steroid users are mostly (i say mostly) mentally ill they often suffer from an inferiority complex always wanting to get bigger at any cost and health risk.
The fact is that you cannot cheat nature, and as you said most of the size is water and fake muscle and strenght that is short lived.
and if a guy is training to please women then he is also mentally ill. And by the way women do not like apes on steroids and your dick does not get harder when you are on steroids,,,,,all that is absolute crap..i can even assure you that from all the people i have seen pound per pound natural people were stronger than steroid users..i have never seen a guy on steroids in my weight class stronger than i am..even now at my age.
Even if steroids are going to make me stronger and bigger i really don't give a shit ..i find pleasure and achievement in training and being healthy ...for me steroids is cheating and beats my purpose of staying healthy.

This entire post is a load of bullshit. Bjg, you brag and brag and brag and brag, but never have the guts to post a picture. You make these bold claims. It's not until you use steroids that you realize just how little of your body mass really was muscle and how much of it was water and fat. You can't have truly hard muscles naturally. You can call them whatever you want, but give a guy tren and winny and let him do his work and his muscles will be 5 times as solid and hard and proteinaceous as they could ever possibly be naturally. And quite honestly, that applies to your dick as well. Using test has made sex AMAZING. You wouldn't know, you've never tried it. Also, I've always loved training and trying to get bigger, and I don't consider myself sick for deciding to cut a little to please my girlfriend. Most of my friends hit the gym to make their girlfriends happy and I wouldn't call that sick at all. It's like saying a woman that dresses nicely to please her spouse is sick. But my girl has been so much more impressed by sex since I have been on testosterone. Pound for pound naturals are stronger give me a break. Just look at the tested and untested divisions in powerlifting and their records. And as far as cheating nature...you can say that about anything. Taking antibiotics is "cheating nature" and it's helped people live far longer than they could otherwise. IMO there is no such thing as cheating nature. I don't know where you get off thinking that passing judgement and insults towards others is fine but using hormones to train harder and achieve more is so sick.
 
To the OP. What about someone who has naturally low Testosterone? He would be at a disadvantage against people with normal T levels. So if God gave everyone different levels of natural T, who is to say that taking Testosterone is cheating?
If you don't want to take it then don't, but I don't see the point in bashing people who do?
Curt Shilling was able to pitch in the ALCS against the Yankees because he took cortisone shots, which is totally legal in professional sports. Is that cheating nature because he was able to play through an injury? The media demonizes steroids over all other drugs and it is guys like you that believe the hype.

Dave
 
Fair enough :) But I didnt use the term "roid rage" I simply just said I had bad experiences with aggression. Getting the shit beaten out of me by a steroid user is not a nice thing.

Testosterone makes me the kindest man on earth, that's why, this time, there's no coming off. YEAH BABY!!! :kissu:
 
This entire post is a load of bullshit. Bjg, you brag and brag and brag and brag, but never have the guts to post a picture. You make these bold claims. It's not until you use steroids that you realize just how little of your body mass really was muscle and how much of it was water and fat. You can't have truly hard muscles naturally. You can call them whatever you want, but give a guy tren and winny and let him do his work and his muscles will be 5 times as solid and hard and proteinaceous as they could ever possibly be naturally. And quite honestly, that applies to your dick as well. Using test has made sex AMAZING. You wouldn't know, you've never tried it. Also, I've always loved training and trying to get bigger, and I don't consider myself sick for deciding to cut a little to please my girlfriend. Most of my friends hit the gym to make their girlfriends happy and I wouldn't call that sick at all. It's like saying a woman that dresses nicely to please her spouse is sick. But my girl has been so much more impressed by sex since I have been on testosterone. Pound for pound naturals are stronger give me a break. Just look at the tested and untested divisions in powerlifting and their records. And as far as cheating nature...you can say that about anything. Taking antibiotics is "cheating nature" and it's helped people live far longer than they could otherwise. IMO there is no such thing as cheating nature. I don't know where you get off thinking that passing judgement and insults towards others is fine but using hormones to train harder and achieve more is so sick.

to bigbenj also: you were not born when i was dating women....and the truth is most women think of guys on steroids as follows: stupid and dumb and sexually useless......and wrong again steroids will totally ruin your sex life by the time you grow up you will be needing viagara. and wrong again you can build much better quality muscle naturally and all the pros in the world will tell you if they had the choice they would be natural. and wrong again i competed in judo , in weight lifting , in track and field and pound per pound it was always a natty girl( as you say who wins), of course juicers are more consistent but there was always that talented natty who there to beat them. By the way tested and untested competition is all crap because whether it is tested or not does not mean you are natural at all. And granted, your chances are you will be stronger than yourself as a natty if you takes steroids but it does not mean you will be stronger than other nattys. steroids are only good for higher competitions in bodybuilding ONLY. even in track and field there is always a natty there who wins. A very simple example : give me one of the fastest football player on the field full of steroids and i give you a 5ft girl who can beat him running ..so you see? it is not all in the muscles...steroids give you the look ..and again not even. i would choose to have a steeve reeves body in his early days
anytime before having a jay cutler body.
And wrong again if you are on steroids you don't train harder at all ..ive trained with juicers all my life and they tend to run out of gas very early.
If i don't post any pic is because i am not a teenager and i have my reasons ..one of them is : I HAVE nothing to prove especially to you..but don't worry i will in time...
 
And i forgot to mention that unlike many nattys ..i never used that as an excuse saying for example: oh yes he is stronger but he is on steroids....that is a lame excuse for me....i am natural and i see no problem at all when training with a juicer and if he is stronger ..no excuses for me at all ..i just train hard...and i feel no threat from juicers and have no problems with them..most of my training partners are juicers...
taking roids to me mean that you want to achieve your goals by any means ..like you want to make money then it is ok to steal sort of as long as you achieve your goals..and that is the danger of this new generation. There is a certain morality towards yourself in bodybuilding ....
I understand a 40 years old who has been training for 20 years and wanting to experiment a bit with steroids ..but unfortunately juicers are mostly young dumbasses who lack any guidance and help with a fucked up attitude...
In short if i had to give my son an advice then it would be to stay away from steroids and that in the long run you won't be any better with them.
 
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i hate being even stronger...faster...tougher...
i hate being little leaner
hate being more sure of myself...i hate having fuking boners all the time....my wife whimpering an moaning gets on my nerves


steroids suck
 
I'm not holding my breath lol

Plus, he said he's like 5'3 or some shit, so it wouldn't be hard for him to fill out his frame.

I feel bad though. He's brutally jealous of the juicers, and, he's short as shit :sorry:
 
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