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Here are what I would suggest, just take out the spaces:
https: //www. mpresearchsupply.com/store/products/NYC-Stack-X-50CT-.html
https: //www. mpresearchsupply.com/store/products/ECA-Stack-50-Pills.html
THe NYC stack was the holy grail and this is, I believe, one of the only places selling it and you can also get ephedra there which is the basis of the ECA stack (or just buy it pre-mixed).
https: //www. mpresearchsupply.com/store/products/NYC-Stack-X-50CT-.html
https: //www. mpresearchsupply.com/store/products/ECA-Stack-50-Pills.html
THe NYC stack was the holy grail and this is, I believe, one of the only places selling it and you can also get ephedra there which is the basis of the ECA stack (or just buy it pre-mixed).
Supressing appetite is important. Especially if you are just starting your diet and your body is still hooked on the American diet (high sugar)
Once your body get's all the sugar out of your system and you start to eat unproccessed foods your body will adapt.
High protein, low startch and sugar, plenty of green's your golden.
Or just buy brokaid at Walgreen's and some caffine pills online. Pharma grade E HCL no guessing. 2 caps a few times a day
Mine came in the mail today. I'll be trying my first on in about an hour. I hope it's good stuff.
Hi dear,
I am not in the favor of using fat burning medicines and fat burning supplement because most of these have sever side effects. You simply use the fat loss foods such as green vegetables, citric fruits, and green tea for the fat burning.
Genesis Fitness Center Maitland
I am not in the favor of using fat burning medicines and fat burning supplement because most of these have sever side effects. You simply use the fat loss foods such as green vegetables, citric fruits, and green tea for the fat burning.
Genesis Fitness Center Maitland
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What I have learned...
I guess I would mention the need to track my diet. By that I mean taking the time to research and write down the caloric value of all the food I eat in a day and do this for an entire week. The need for this is to discover where your accumulating too many calories or where your "dirty" calories are coming from (e.g., simple sugars, refined white flowers, junk food). When you know where your calories are coming from its time to start to look at your caloric expenditures. The goal of course is to be in a deficit. I can loose fat eating 3000 calories a day, but I have to work my butt to the bone in order to make that happen.
Taking control of my eating habits by creating a caloric inventory and eating clean without cheating is the best way I know to stay lean and yet build mass. Keeping in mind that every time I cheat and eat "dirty" it takes my body 3 days to reset itself back to a calorie burning machine rather than a fat storage monster.
Taking a fat burner is only to increase the metabolism through the means of acting as an agonist or antagonist in the synapse of the neurons in the body, many of which are found in the gut. As soon as one stops the "fat burner" the nurons will revert back to their "old timing" and fat storage becomes a real problem for those who may have reverted to a dirty diet or are in a positive caloric phase.
Food for thought...
I guess I would mention the need to track my diet. By that I mean taking the time to research and write down the caloric value of all the food I eat in a day and do this for an entire week. The need for this is to discover where your accumulating too many calories or where your "dirty" calories are coming from (e.g., simple sugars, refined white flowers, junk food). When you know where your calories are coming from its time to start to look at your caloric expenditures. The goal of course is to be in a deficit. I can loose fat eating 3000 calories a day, but I have to work my butt to the bone in order to make that happen.
Taking control of my eating habits by creating a caloric inventory and eating clean without cheating is the best way I know to stay lean and yet build mass. Keeping in mind that every time I cheat and eat "dirty" it takes my body 3 days to reset itself back to a calorie burning machine rather than a fat storage monster.
Taking a fat burner is only to increase the metabolism through the means of acting as an agonist or antagonist in the synapse of the neurons in the body, many of which are found in the gut. As soon as one stops the "fat burner" the nurons will revert back to their "old timing" and fat storage becomes a real problem for those who may have reverted to a dirty diet or are in a positive caloric phase.
Food for thought...
dave 236
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In veterinary meds clen is called ventapulmin. it's illeagal to dispense to humans in the U.S. But this is pretty spot on as to the difference. its mainly the amount of time they give you the shakes lol. Both are reputed to have a slight anabolic activity as well.
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Hi All,
As far as the safety aspect, this totally depends upon the particular fat burner you're talking about. Ephedrine, geranium (1,3 dimethylamylamine / DMAA) and to a lesser extent, Clenbuterol are unsuitable for some people - either they can make them very anxious, jittery and angry or in rare cases can have severe negative effects on health. Of particular risk is taking ephedrine and exercising in the heat. Most other ingredients found in fat burners are quite safe and have not been associated with adverse events. Clen is fairly safe but again, its effects only last several days and then even if you cycle it, its effects wear off quickly.
As far as the safety aspect, this totally depends upon the particular fat burner you're talking about. Ephedrine, geranium (1,3 dimethylamylamine / DMAA) and to a lesser extent, Clenbuterol are unsuitable for some people - either they can make them very anxious, jittery and angry or in rare cases can have severe negative effects on health. Of particular risk is taking ephedrine and exercising in the heat. Most other ingredients found in fat burners are quite safe and have not been associated with adverse events. Clen is fairly safe but again, its effects only last several days and then even if you cycle it, its effects wear off quickly.
algarete10
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Hey! First time poster here, figured I'd tag along on a related thread as opposed to needlessly clogging the forum with a new thread for a short question.
I just got back from South America, and have 480 mcg of Clen. What would be the most effective use of this to maximize it's thermogenic effects? If I follow the standard 20-40-60-80...120-"-" taper up, then I only have about six days worth of it, with only one full dose of 120. If I kept it at a lower 40 or 60, only ever increasing up to 80, I could go for a little bit longer.
I realize I'm most likely splitting hairs, but would really like to do this right. Any insight or advice is thoroughly appreciated.
Thanks in advance!
striker4you
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DNP is easily by far
I've tried EC
YC and ECY, along with multiple other fat burners but
DNP is harsh and you better know how to use it
but other than that a good diet, like IF work wonders
I've tried EC
YC and ECY, along with multiple other fat burners but
DNP is harsh and you better know how to use it
but other than that a good diet, like IF work wonders
packers6211
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I don't know why but today's ECA doesn't do anything to me at all. I know lots say it works, but when I took Xenadrine RFA-1, I never wanted to sit down, and lost a good bit of weight. Plus had a lot of energy. I tried the bronkaid deal, nothing.
VolcomX311
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Unless you're getting your epehdrine hcl from Broncaid or Vasopure, it's probably a boot-leg version of ephedrine, particulalry if you bought it as part of an OTC fat burner. That's more likely the reason. The only legit form of ephedrine hcl you can get these days are from Rx counters. Knowing your history of stim product intake and how you've reacted to them, I'd say you have healthy adrenals, so barring some sort of issue with your adrenals, real ephedrine hcl should still get you pretty amped if it's legit ephed hcl and not ephedra
packers6211
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Well that makes me wonder bro, why I haven't responded to any thing stims latley. The only thing that I have is craze and regular coffee afting using revamp for a month. Nothing fat burnning wise seems to help me or at least can't tell anything sign. It's like a need a full on attack stim cleaner lol. My trt is getting better in that I can see acne has attack me lol. I need to find something, cause my face is broken out.
VolcomX311
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A month off of stims should have been long enough to lose the tolerance. My month off of stims will be up this Saturday.
packers6211
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Oh oh bro what are you going with next!
I think dexedrine is great because you dont even think about food at all. and the cleaning you get done? forget it. im talking white glove.
VolcomX311
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I'd already purchased Mesomorph because it's tried & true for me. Of the pre-workouts I've used (Jack3d, N2KS, ASGT, White Flood), Mesomorph has been the most effective all around, but I'll give Craze a go the next time I reset my adrenals so I can have an honest experience.
packers6211
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Bro I will even send you some of mine to try no joke. Take it from me your the one that convinced my of meso. I loved it but like I said for me the newer formula as ok but like the original. Craze is something wicked lol. But since you told me the old version still around, I'll have to order me some soon. I just got my Creatine nitrate in today.
