You're correct; it's actually masteron. Sorry about the discrepancy.
I do however, disagree that it isnt as harsh as you might think.
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Superdrol and havoc cycle help
- Thread starter rgprestige15
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You're correct; it's actually masteron. Sorry about the discrepancy.
I do however, disagree that it isnt as harsh as you might think.
Then we agree to disagree, we all have opinions and this is no worse then running 40mg dbol at the fron end of a cycle imo.
To throw a spanner in the works SD is stronger than most other orals. Just ask HeavyIron about the lipids he's heard/seen of from SD use, I belive thats one of the reasons he said he gets put off using it, and he is a vet with gear.
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Superdrol is basically oral masteron known as methasterone. Never used for any medicinal purposes - straight to "designer steroid" status....and I'm about to go do biceps on it 
Superdrol is basically oral masteron known as methasterone. Never used for any medicinal purposes - straight to "designer steroid" status....and I'm about to go do biceps on it
so you have an arm day?
rgprestige15
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Actually I have two "arm" days chief.
Monday ??? Triceps
Bench Press (close-grip) ??? 16,12,8,4
Rope Pulldowns ??? 12,6
One-arm Cable Pulldowns ??? 24,12 ea. arm
One-Arm Overhead Extensions ??? 12,6
Reverse Pulldowns ??? 2 failure drops
Cable Kickbacks - burnout
Behind Reverse Rope Pulldowns - burnout
Dips (weighted) ???20,10
Tuesday ??? Back, lats, delts, shoulders
BB Military Press ??? 20, 12, 6
Lat Pulldowns ??? 2 dropset burnouts
DB Latrl Raises (leaning) 16,8
T-bar Rows ??? 25,15
Front Cable Raises ??? 12,6 ea. arm
Behind Ltrl Cable Raises ??? 12,6 ea. arm
(Upper) Machine Back Rows ??? 12,6
(Lower) Machine Back Rows ??? 12,6
Back Flies ??? 2 failure drops
Roman Chairs ??? 3??20
Wednesday ??? Quads
Squat ??? 24,18,12,6
Leg Extensions ??? 25,20,15,10
Hip Adduction ??? Failure increases
Hip Abduciton ??? Failure increases
Thursday ??? Chest
Bench Press ??? 16,12,8,4
DB Incline Press ??? 12,6
Machine Flies ??? 2 failure drops
BB Decline(reg,wide,close)failure drops
Incline Machine Flies ??? 2 failure drops
BB Incline - 2 failure drops
Friday ??? Biceps, Forearms
Chin ups - burnout
One-arm Concentrated Curls(seated)???12,6ea arm
EB Inverted Preacher Curls???2dropset burnouts
EB close-grip Preacher Curls???2dropset burnouts
BB Curls ??? 12,6
Lateral Hammer Curls ??? 12,6 ea. arm
One-arm Preacher Curls ??? 12,6 ea. arm
Forearm Rolls (rollbar) ??? 2 burnouts
Wrist Curls (bench hang-off) ??? 12,6
BB or SB Reverse Curls (standing) ??? 12,6
Saturday ??? Hamstrings
Straight-Legged Deadlifts ??? 15,10,5
Leg Curls
- Supported Lying ??? 3 dropset burnouts
Sunday ??? Traps
BB Shrugs (explosive)
- Reg. grip - 20
- Wide grip ??? 15
- Reg. grip ??? 10
- Wide grip - 15
- Reg. grip ??? 40 crazy shrugs
Neck Machine ??? 20 ea. side
DB Crazy Shrugs ??? 2 burnouts
Calves ??? Wed. & Sat..
Calve Raises(seated)??? 3??20
Calf Raises(standing)??? 2??15
Calf Raises ( standing one-legged) ??? burnout
Abs ??? Wed.
Weighted Knee-ups to straight legged lifts
One-sided Supermans ??? 15 ea. side
Concentrated Oblique Crunches ??? 12ea. side
Concentrated Yoga Crunches - burnout
Sat.
Weighted laydown leg lifts/straight leg lifts
Machine Oblique Twists ??? 20,20 ea. side
Concentrated Yoga Crunches - burnout
Monday ??? Triceps
Bench Press (close-grip) ??? 16,12,8,4
Rope Pulldowns ??? 12,6
One-arm Cable Pulldowns ??? 24,12 ea. arm
One-Arm Overhead Extensions ??? 12,6
Reverse Pulldowns ??? 2 failure drops
Cable Kickbacks - burnout
Behind Reverse Rope Pulldowns - burnout
Dips (weighted) ???20,10
Tuesday ??? Back, lats, delts, shoulders
BB Military Press ??? 20, 12, 6
Lat Pulldowns ??? 2 dropset burnouts
DB Latrl Raises (leaning) 16,8
T-bar Rows ??? 25,15
Front Cable Raises ??? 12,6 ea. arm
Behind Ltrl Cable Raises ??? 12,6 ea. arm
(Upper) Machine Back Rows ??? 12,6
(Lower) Machine Back Rows ??? 12,6
Back Flies ??? 2 failure drops
Roman Chairs ??? 3??20
Wednesday ??? Quads
Squat ??? 24,18,12,6
Leg Extensions ??? 25,20,15,10
Hip Adduction ??? Failure increases
Hip Abduciton ??? Failure increases
Thursday ??? Chest
Bench Press ??? 16,12,8,4
DB Incline Press ??? 12,6
Machine Flies ??? 2 failure drops
BB Decline(reg,wide,close)failure drops
Incline Machine Flies ??? 2 failure drops
BB Incline - 2 failure drops
Friday ??? Biceps, Forearms
Chin ups - burnout
One-arm Concentrated Curls(seated)???12,6ea arm
EB Inverted Preacher Curls???2dropset burnouts
EB close-grip Preacher Curls???2dropset burnouts
BB Curls ??? 12,6
Lateral Hammer Curls ??? 12,6 ea. arm
One-arm Preacher Curls ??? 12,6 ea. arm
Forearm Rolls (rollbar) ??? 2 burnouts
Wrist Curls (bench hang-off) ??? 12,6
BB or SB Reverse Curls (standing) ??? 12,6
Saturday ??? Hamstrings
Straight-Legged Deadlifts ??? 15,10,5
Leg Curls
- Supported Lying ??? 3 dropset burnouts
Sunday ??? Traps
BB Shrugs (explosive)
- Reg. grip - 20
- Wide grip ??? 15
- Reg. grip ??? 10
- Wide grip - 15
- Reg. grip ??? 40 crazy shrugs
Neck Machine ??? 20 ea. side
DB Crazy Shrugs ??? 2 burnouts
Calves ??? Wed. & Sat..
Calve Raises(seated)??? 3??20
Calf Raises(standing)??? 2??15
Calf Raises ( standing one-legged) ??? burnout
Abs ??? Wed.
Weighted Knee-ups to straight legged lifts
One-sided Supermans ??? 15 ea. side
Concentrated Oblique Crunches ??? 12ea. side
Concentrated Yoga Crunches - burnout
Sat.
Weighted laydown leg lifts/straight leg lifts
Machine Oblique Twists ??? 20,20 ea. side
Concentrated Yoga Crunches - burnout
recipe for overtraining 
. . whatever happened to KISS?
. . whatever happened to KISS?
my ribs hurt from laughing too hard. Who the hell gave you this routine?!
recipe for overtraining
they're too stupid to know what KISS is.
So, the OP wants to go on SD, fuck his insides up, doesnt know how to train effectively, possibly doesnt know how to eat, is using research chem for pct and no gyno control, bridging two substances together when he hasnt tried SD solo....does anyone see anything wrong with this picture?
Oh, wow.
To the OP, how long have you been training this way? And can you give us some numbers - I'd like to see what we're working with here.
Your current intake
Some metrics
I want to see what you're starting with and how well your current training and diet are suited for your build.
To the OP, how long have you been training this way? And can you give us some numbers - I'd like to see what we're working with here.
Your current intake
- calories
- grams protein
- grams carb
- grams fat
- Your current rate of weight gain (ie how much weight are you gaining each month on your current diet?)
- Your 5-rep deadlift, bench press, and free, below-parallel squat weights.
Some metrics
- height
- weight
- calf
- thigh
- hip (fullest part)
- waist (at navel)
- chest
- shoulders (all the way around your body, arms down, at the widest part of your shoulders)
- arm (flexed is fine)
I want to see what you're starting with and how well your current training and diet are suited for your build.
Awww shit did someone leave the Built-signal up? We got us a superhero chick now! Bulletproof abs and all!
rgprestige15
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Thanks for the flame, but a bodybuilder at my school gave me the routine as a suggestion and its been working great. I used to do more heavy lifting with lower reps, but changing it up has really helped me. I try to get in around 250 grams of protein a day. As far as carbs, I would imagine my intake is double or triple that of my protein intake (maybe somewhere in the middle). Total calories would be somewhere in the ballpark of 3500-4000 a day. If I can keep this up (which is a bitch sometimes) I can put on weight. I usually eat 5-6 smaller meals throughout the day. Ill eat a med size breakfast (eggs and egg whites with english muffins and peanut butter) followed up by a smaller breakfast a couple hours later. I usually snack on peanut butter and apples until I eat lunch which usually consists of a chicken breast sandwich and some vegetables. I drink a weight gainer shake after I lift and then eat dinner - usually chicken again with pasta and more vegetables. Then around 9-10pm ill eat another quasi dinner type meal. If I have time ill post some metrics and some more stats, but I'm 190lbs at 5'9'' with a VERY small waist. I have a mesomorph body type. As far as a routine goes, I believe there is no magic routine, you find what works for YOUR body. It looks like a lot of shit, but there are a lot of short sets in there (plus I usually cut out the day for traps & simplify the calves and abs) - I like to think I KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID! What works for some people does not work for others and I have had great result with this routine before I ever decided to try any sort of prohormonal/prosteroid experimentation. Also what's wrong with using Nolva from CEM? I've read posts that attest to the authenticity of their research chems. As far as the bridge idea goes - it was just an idea, I wanted to hear what some folk on here and in other places had to say about it before I jumped into it. Thus far, I am doing the 3 weeks of SD at a low dosage as I believe I mentioned in an earlier post.
Kick your little bodybuilder boyfriend in the ass, he knows dick.
Stop listening to fuckasses who dont know their assholes from a hole in the ground.
Built asked questions, give her answers. You'll really see what training is like. Not this nonsense-copy-out-of-muscle and fitness bullshit.
dont even get me started with the fact that you havent even finished high school and want to start using oral steroids.
rgprestige15
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Im 23 years old - don't take your sexual frustration out on me or others on the internet
. Maybe you haven't finished highschool since your reading comprehension is inferior to paltry-simpleton status. Thanks for no real help, its safe you say you have contributed little to nothing to this post. (Other than reiterating information I already knew about SD while acting like a juggernautjackass 
)
rgprestige15, simmer down, we're all just trying to help you here. Sometimes a change is as good as a rest with training. If you were doing low-rep work for a while, the higher rep stuff can be helpful for a while. You don't give yourself a day off though, and this may be a problem after a short while.
Are you currently gaining weight? If so, how fast?
Are you currently gaining weight? If so, how fast?
Im 23 years old - don't take your sexual frustration out on me or others on the internet
ooooh 23 wow! You must shave, what, 1-2 times a week. Big man. Yes, that's correct-my grammatical skills may suck, but I could buy you, your cheapass hooker of a mom and your sister with the money I make in a week little man. 23! Wow! Can I be you?
sorry mommmmm.....are you feeling better?
fine...to anyone I offended...blame it on the lack of carbs....mom's pinching my ear. Ow Ma!
fine...to anyone I offended...blame it on the lack of carbs....mom's pinching my ear. Ow Ma!
LOL
Excellent. Now, I shall restate:
rgprestige15
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I should have clarified that the routine I posted was a sequence moreso than a 7 day per week thing. I usually take a day off after I do my leg workouts. I am also lifting more for show rather than raw strength if that makes any sense.
I am gaining weight slowly, adding a lb or two each month. I am basing this off the past 5 months of being on a bulking diet rather than maintaining. (pre SD of course)
Jugmaster - You taunt my age, yet you act your shoe size
rgprestige15
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fine...to anyone I offended...blame it on the lack of carbs....mom's pinching my ear. Ow Ma!
Go dominate some carbs and yell "I'm the juggernaut bitch" while you gobble. I have a steak waiting to be
What is your daily carb intake anyway?
You need to eat more. You're not gaining fast enough at two pounds a month. Do you have trouble getting in the calories?
Juggy has very large feet. Clown feet, really.Jugmaster - You taunt my age, yet you act your shoe size
He's doing PSMF, so it's about 20g a day right now. His brain has now turned into tuna, just feel pity and work with me while we both eat rice. He doesn't need to know.Go dominate some carbs and yell "I'm the juggernaut bitch" while you gobble. I have a steak waiting to be
What is your daily carb intake anyway?
rgprestige15
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I'm getting a minimum 3500 calories a day, but packing on anymore is challenging. I am already stuffing my meals down with no appetite half the time. Any suggestions to acquire more calories? I do not put on any fat with this diet either, but I wouldn't mind a little extra bf for the sake of bulking.
I have a very easy fix: you are doing some things that a lot of novice lifters do with your diet, and it's unfortunately based upon myth rather than fact. For example, you are tossing out some of your egg yolks. STOP THAT. Yolks are good for you, full of healthy saturated fat and cholesterol, and more importantly CALORIES. Also, start slathering butter on your veggies, and olive oil in your salads. You need more fat, olive oil and avocodos are easy fixes. You can toss an ounce of olive oil into one of your shakes for easy, healthy, testosterone-building calories (the oleic acid helps your testicles convert cholesterol into testosterone). Oil takes up very little volume and is easily the fastest and most comfortable - not to mention effective and cheap - way to up your calories.
Also, switch from brown to white rice, and from whole wheat to white bread. It's less filling and will make it easier to pack in the calories.
You need to up your calories by at least another 500 a day to take advantage of any gear or PH type gear you run. The suggestions I offer will allow this to take effect.
If you don't, it won't matter how you train or what gear you take, you won't grow. Muscles are not made from air. You want lean mass, you simply have to gain weight. Period.
Also, switch from brown to white rice, and from whole wheat to white bread. It's less filling and will make it easier to pack in the calories.
You need to up your calories by at least another 500 a day to take advantage of any gear or PH type gear you run. The suggestions I offer will allow this to take effect.
If you don't, it won't matter how you train or what gear you take, you won't grow. Muscles are not made from air. You want lean mass, you simply have to gain weight. Period.
rgprestige15
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Thanks, I will give this a try. I have been having pretty decent luck with a lot of peanut butter as well.
Yep, natty PB's good stuff.
It IS natty PB, right?
RIGHT?
Olive oil is less filling and easier to get in because it's a liquid and you can just mix it into a shake. Two tablespoons add 250 calories to your day. Just FYI.
It IS natty PB, right?
RIGHT?
Olive oil is less filling and easier to get in because it's a liquid and you can just mix it into a shake. Two tablespoons add 250 calories to your day. Just FYI.
